What turned Europe into third world technologists?

the third world

>what is spotify?

>This thread again

On the other hand, iot doesn't help that everytime it is posted, euro muslims will rage and seethe continuously for days at a time, ensuring a steady stream of (You)s for OP.

so,
left bros and right whos?

The exact socialist shithole that I live in, actually.

And where did the creator of said OS kernel move to afterwards?

And best desktop?

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>And where did the creator of said OS kernel move to afterwards?

Portland. Oregon. ;)

MIT. The Jew Tanenbaum wrote it. Every Intel CPU with ME is powered by Minix.

While it was coded by a Finn, it was the suggestion of RMS, an American, to license it properly.

>Intel

There's more ARM CPUs out there, almost all of them running Android.

True. I'm just sick of any nationalistic and political jacking off.

Wait, scratch that, a large number of them running some form of Linux, not almost all running Android. Crap.

Not all ARM CPUs are running Android. They're also running Windows and custom embedded software. But every single Intel CPU with ME runs Minix regardless of what other OS you're running.

Exactly. He moved out this draconian soon-to-be-caliphate that would take more than 60% of his earnings the moment he had a choice.

>this shit again

We have quite a lot of talent, and a respectable number of hard tech companies, but our tech market will never be as hot as the American or Chinese one simply because we don't have;
- the same sheer unified scale
- history of government funded research
- access to capital
- ability to leverage a massive culturally homogeneous population in order to rapidly popularise a product.
- talent retention as much of our top-tier talent flees to America as they are guaranteed to make a fortune over there

It also doesn't help that Europe as a whole, we have never developed anything quite like the "Silicon Valley zeitgeist" that forcefully drove the growth of tech and tech culture in yankland.

TL:DR; being 700M people spread across 50 different isolationist cultures puts at a massive disadvantage when compared to an obscenely rich, tech-enthusiast country of 300M with a unified culture and language

Are you posting this over www, maybe on an ARM smartphone, across infrastructure on servers running Linux? Ok.

>UK is still consider part of the EU
>Linux is not a derivative of Minix
poor little yurocuck

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>we have never developed anything quite like the "Silicon Valley zeitgeist"
No, the Brits in the Acorn [and so on] past and the Swiss and others today are rather innovative.

What isn't quite the same is among other things that not as many companies get saved/backed by as many larger investors. And the smaller markets were also some issue.

>Id just like to interject for a moment...

> EU
OP said Europe.

> Linux is not a derivative of Minix
I isn't. But if you want, you can consider all computers derivatives of Zuse's computers - it's all German then.

Most of the ARM devices are running some form of an OS with a Linux kernel though. I just messed up on the Android part. The only significant exception are i/Apple Devices.

Yeah, forgot the web itself, oops.

>all that trash social media/consumerist garbage
>good

>don't forget Gnome, which is Gnarly
(Sorry for the bad pun)

>His country fell for the technology meme
Pajeet detected

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Here is how all of these threads turn out
>You mutts are fat stupid and deserve to be glassed
>lmao butthurt Yuropoors spend all their free time after prepping the bull on SEETHING/being OBSESSED/giving me living RENT FREE
>China/Russia is the best and will destroy the degenerate west!
Why do we keep having them!

What I'm saying is that Europe as a whole never had anything quite like America's tech mania that began in the 50s, and whatever comparable tech boom we had here never enjoyed the same cultural support and celebration as the american one did. All we had here were a handful of isolated research and development efforts being carried out in universities, in the laboratories of already established corporations, and in some cases, military funded projects.

The Americans on the other had an entire scene; A fully established environment that boasted a wealth of technical expertise, physical resource, an eager and well-trained labour force, organised supply chains and most critically, a mountain of private and government backing.

> Europe as a whole never had anything quite like America's tech mania that began in the 50s, and whatever comparable tech boom we had here never enjoyed the same cultural support and celebration as the american one did
Uh... industrialization?

Also, Europe had a lot going on between WW1 and WW2 too, even if it was wrecked both times. You understand that Germany could build the first jets, rockets, synthetic fuel and all the other shit it did for a very good industrial/technological reason, right...?

But yea, after WW2, Europe was quite wrecked & dead, partly plundered and manoeuvring mainly in the continued cold war. The USA / Russia actually forced the cancellation of various tech projects, one way or another, and that expected battlefield with its relative political instabiltiy wasn't exactly the most confidence inspiring place for investments, either.

> The Americans on the other had an entire scene
It wasn't bad on its own either, sure. But there were circumstances, and Europe did really rather well given these.

slightly off topic, but why does there seem to be an overrepresentation of europeans regarding content related to linux, and on a more general scale, free software?
Many conventions are held in the EU instead of in the US, and just from my own anecdotal experiences watching videos, reading guides, and talking to people on irc, many of them seem to be european; specifically from northern or eastern european countries.

Is free software pushed more heavily in that region for some reason?

America's soul used most of its power to summon RMS into existence

Good fucking lord you are dense beyond measure. Are you an anglo or a Balkan imbecile? How can your context comprehension be so abysmally poor that you have to resort to some irrelevant nonsense about 1800's industrialisation and WW1?

I was talking about the boom of modern tech industry that clearly began in the 50s.

>Is free software pushed more heavily in that region for some reason?
I think anyone who was regularly squabbling with the USA over all sorts of things [or worse] would be more wary to completely rely on the USA for computers and software.

And Europe in general had a good bunch of issues with US companies following even a bunch of more basic ones of the respective laws.
As a more recent example, GDPR for isn't that difficult, but US companies still often don't have the defaults on "all private" as it demands. And so on.

Anyhow, I guess it's a trust issue with big US companies, and the US government both, to a varying degree. You'll also see that in other places like China, BTW.

It's a way to decrease reliance on software controlled by foreign powers. EU is composed of many countries.

>Is free software pushed more heavily in that region for some reason?

Poverty.

The most famous countries for free software aren't poor though (Germany, Ebinland, Estonia). Then there's Switzerland, which is infinitely richer than the richest parts of America

>How can your context comprehension be so abysmally poor that you have to resort to some irrelevant nonsense about 1800's industrialisation and WW1?
It was *your* claim that it "never" had anything like that tech mania.

And you seem utterly unable to grasp that the 50ties were more or less Europe's early post-WW2 recovery. Your damn economic miracle was even very much tied to selling Europe high-tech shit it partly lost its ability to produce during WW2 and in the ongoing cold war's complications.

> I was talking about the boom of modern tech industry that clearly began in the 50s.
Yea, and I was explaining that. You seem unable to comprehend that WW2 alone was ultimately worse for the European economies than all wars since Vietnam for you. Look at your current deficit. It's bad enough without most the nation's factories and half the homes wrecked and depleted of metal utensils and so on, millions of psychologically/physically very strongly affected people, and -say, Canada and Mexico- creating a situation ~as volatile and militarized as between North and South Korea, only on a bigger scale.

Europe put a huge effort into recovering. You had a boom meanwhile. Fantastic.

Also: The SU actually boomed for a while. You know, to the point where it was in a space race and so on? Wasn't much less impressive overall, given from where they came from.

Had you added this kind of effort on top of a largely undamaged Europe who could sell shit to a wrecked USA and so on, yea, it'd have been a pretty nice boom.

>Your damn economic miracle
>You had a boom meanwhile
>since Vietnam for you

I'm European, not American you completely retarded shitskin. This is the context comprehension that you're severely lack. Use your paki eyes to read again and understand how it relates to OPs post for fucks sake.

You keep deflecting to WW2 for some odd reason whereas I'm simply trying to explain to OP why European tech scene isn't as unified as the American one. I have no idea where the fuck your oddly triggered ego-wounded damage control explanations are for.

>these two brain dead and confused Europoors shouting at each other ITT
OP, there's an example of why that continent sucks at tech. They can't even communicate effectively.

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Why are americucks so proud of a bunch of social networks and apps? At least yurop has Siemens doing actual tech like building high speed trains, medical equipment and solar panels

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>Estonia
>Rich

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> Use your paki eyes to read again
Yes, that changes nothing about my argument.

> I'm simply trying to explain to OP why European tech scene isn't as unified as the American one.
I'm responding to the point actually quoted and it is obviously the explanation for the same thing too.

I guess I need to put it more simple for you though? Imagine this: Investors didn't want to place or support a "Silicon Valley" in a still rebuilding, slightly unrestful place that is very close to become the primary battleground for two global powers that are very much threatening each other every day, with no one to stop them. Even the companies in that place [like Acorn] that came up with some nice tech regardless, usually didn't manage to capitalize on their efforts very well.

It's a bit unfair to compare disposable income when European countries regularly tax >50% of all earnings. It's a lot more useful to compare gross gain.

It's just the brain damaged anglo replying to me that struggles with basic literacy, not me.

>Investors didn't want to place or support a "Silicon Valley" in a still rebuilding, slightly unrestful place that is very close to become the primary battleground for two global powers that are very much threatening each other every day, with no one to stop them. Even the companies in that place [like Acorn] that came up with some nice tech regardless, usually didn't manage to capitalize on their efforts very well.

all of which perfectly dovetails with what I've been saying all through out this thread. The European scene always lagged behind the yankee scene as we never had the stability nor unity and investment that the US enjoys as a single entity. Why the fuck are you brits so immeasurably dense that you had to restate my posts?

Poostonia is still a shithole by that measure

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I know, but it's still a more useful figure.

Our cars don't suck, despite the fact that you are far more dependent on your cars than we are.

but at least the have free health care, education, and open borders in Europe!

>Poverty
>No government backing of vast innovative R&D projects
>Forced to spend all gibs on supporting middle easterners and North Africans
>poor understanding of semi-conductor technology
>Have to dodge multiple trucks and acid attacks when walking in public
>having to deal with the fourth world shitholes that are the Balkans and Eastern Europe.

All these things come together to completely hamper europe's ability to develop modern technology. But taken individually, UK, Germany, and the Scandi's are as intensely productive as USA and Japan on the tech front.

I'm all for patriotism, but when the fuck did this attitude of overlooking problems and criticism come from? Europe definitely does some things better than the US and the proper way to handle these things is to acknowledge Europe's way of handling them, and try to implement them ourselves.
I can't think of many signs more telling of mental disorder than telling someone to leave a country because they offer some criticism and try to improve it.

American corporations stole a lot of things from open source communities. Most of these open source communities were European.

Yup, and two out of three ain't bad!

>free health care, education
>total tax burden is nearly 70%
hmmm

>said the Englishman after counting the number of healthy teeth he had left

*ting* *ting* *ting*
Ahem.
I have taken the liberty, free of charge, of correcting the error of the faggot known as OP.

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>yuropoors when they realize that most of siemens' R&D is in the USA

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>brain drain
is this a new meme?

No. Much of our talent moves to America as it's nearly impossible for most of our companies to compete with the astronomical financial wherewithal of burger institutions

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_capital_flight#By_region

Actually, it's
>said the Canadian after counting the number of shitskins filing through the US and into Canada through illegal border crossings between New York and Quebec by exploiting a loophole in the Safe Third Country Agreement

yep, it always bugs me how some collage kid without any health problems (except self diagnosed mental shit) thinks something he pays x4 by taxes is somehow free.

>t. 30 yo self employed boomer in EU, opted out of nat "free" HC and paying for private insurance. It is literally 4 times cheaper and several times better.

>Lots of available empty land compared to Europe
It's not surprising really.

I can an appreciate the Europeans not wanting the government up their ass 24/7.

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What is Honeywell, GE, United Technologies, Rockwell, Lockheed, 3M, ect, ect

Also what does Siemens actually do other than mass bribery and selling overpriced breakers?

>Opting out of free healthcare as a Euro

Why? Kek it's funny how we contrast as I'm an american on my state's healthcare program (virtually free for most shit as im a poorfag college student) and Im highly glad for it.

Is land so scarce Yurope that it is not possible to new offices and research parks?

???????????????????????
they are literally USSR 2.0
the amount of government regulations is insane

>High speed trains, --, solar panels
Compared to the united states? Absolutely.
Also your nation is flatter.

..............I mean yeah, you're right for the most part.

Though you might have a few mountain staters and Canadians from BC seething at you.

STOP YOU'RE MAKING US AMERIBURGERS LOOK BAD!

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>flat

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Europe created the USA, so surely all of the right panel should go into one little box in the left panel..

I AGREE!

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based Korean

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Actually, the USA looked at Europe and said "Fuck this, we can do better on our own."

Redmond, Washington, USA

Eh.
It was more like "Let's take hundreds and hundreds of years of governance experience, distill what might work for a new nation, and start from scratch on this practically empty continent.". Every achievement of the USA is an achievement prepared by its European heritage.

kek

Comparatively.
Keep in mind that europe is smaller.

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ACHCHUMALLY, America's founding fathers, who were all business elites, said, "fuck this shit, we aint givin over anymore of our cash to the church and monarchy", and they went on to scam the peasantry into revolting under the guise of democracy and muh freedoms. France joined the fight because, fuck the Brits, and the motherfucking USA was born.

Immediately after, the founding fathers formed big government and started to tax the peasants who fought for freedom from the very tyranny that that founding fathers conned them into thinking they were gonna end.

To this very day, the USA is the worlds largest commercial corporation.

Europe converted to Islam and believes that 12th Century technology is enough for them.

that's really not how it happened. enjoy your cultural condition. america started as a prison colony

like that has anything to do with anything

>Socialism

There is not one European country today where the means of production is fully publicly owned. A welfare state with privately-owned businesses is not socialism.

left: soul
right: soulless

Suse
Redhat
/\
German

The state owns everything by default in European countries. They can take your property as they please, and decide how much of what you earn you get to keep. You're a sheep with no rights in communist Europe, and if that isn't socialism, nothing is.

It's a political an economic philosophy that starts with an S and ends with an M.

The two world wars and the resulting Yankee and Ruskee occupation and ...

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... and fucking European Union along with communism, marxism, socialism, globalization, merchant banks and bankers, multinational corporations, etc

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>be american
>get rich on newly acquired land and natural resources
>get even more rich from all the immigrating inventors
>have loose laws regarding corporations
>absolutely cannot comprehend how his country is doing better
why do you keep making these threads? Are you really that keen on admitting that you're stupid?

Technology developed far faster than humans could keep up with it. Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.

How do we stop technology?

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