Redpill me on systemd

sounds pretty good, so why is everyone shitting on it
I haven't used linux in more than 10 years
I don't like anime that much, but here's some from when I was a kid

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binary logs should be enough to stop anyone from even considering that trash.
Its the microsoftization of linux.

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in a nutshell:
>muh unix philosophy (doesn't matter at the system layer)
>muh systemd isn't modular (bullshit)
>muh redhat conspiracy (bullshit, distribution maintainers adopted it because they wanted to)
>muh bugs (all software have them and should get patched)

write your own implementation of journald that doesn't use binary logs.

don't know where you got that image from, but it's not correct:
master branch of systemd is pretty active:
github.com/systemd/systemd
>Latest commit 52c6c9e 15 hours ago
>roughly around ~50+ commits per week since last year

I'd also like to append to my comment:
People simply regurgitate (without critically thinking) what suckless.org, cat-v.org and other websites/bloggers publish.

Why are women such fucking sluts?

because they can

It's good if correctly implemented
See Fedora

So according to your logic I should rape them because I can?

idk

yes

>slow
>bloated
>better than sysv
>worse than runit, OpenRC, s6, and *BSD scripts

systemd goes well beyond the scope of the system layer though
it's not rape if you take her out to dinner first

Your logic is flawed unless her existing and wearing that outfit physically hurts you in some way.

r/the end/end the/g

systemd is a giant blob of bullshit junk code that has no real practical purpose beyond making Red Hat the proprietor of the ecosystem and making your system shittier.
There is literally no real advantage it offers over sysv init even.
All it does is it reimplements stuff that doesn't need to be reimplemented (in a metric fuckton of garbage spaghetti code that doesn't actually add in any useful features), consumes existing projects and bundles it all into a single colossal monolithic turdlog.
Fractionally faster boot times don't mean shit and even if they did, look, there's runit and now there's OpenRC.
systemd is literally the definition of bloatware.
It's huge, it doesn't actually do anything useful compared to alternatives and if I wanted a layer of crapware in between the kernel and the user turning my operating system into a fecal black box, I'd use Microsoft Windows.
Just being garbage is one thing, and if that's all there was to it, I wouldn't give a single fuck about it, but the fact of the matter is that it acts like literal computer cancer, consuming vital system utilities and making more and more software depend on it (by the power of Red Hat) until it finally becomes unavoidable (which is in fact the end goal).
Figuratively speaking, it's akin to a giant tentacle monster slowly extending it's tentacles and closing in to rape you and even though it hopefully never will, it still makes people uncomfortable enough to be vocal against it.

why? binary/text storage of logs is an implementation concern that has nothing to do with the actual use of said logs.

>>muh bugs (all software have them and should get patched)
let me stop you there

>systemd goes well beyond the scope of the system layer though

how? I mean I'm really trying to think up one such subsystem

This.

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Rape is never the answer

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Same people arguing about muh "UNIX" philosophy and muh "minimalism" approach, complaining about how bloated systemd is, are perfectly fine using the spaghetti code that is the X display server.

>honk website

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>impotent rage on Jow Forums about women
C U C K

>first 2009
>last 4 months ago
where did you get this shit?

source

Sluts cannot be raped.

not quite
do you go up to random dudes and snatch their money because you see them buying overpriced drinks at a bar? It's the same sense of entitlement when it comes to women's bodies.

t. slut

It is used by the big guys, if you are at home, and you want to run some stupid kid's distro. Go for it, use init instead or anything else. Might work, might not. Void is cool, too bad its unmaintained. However running a server/hosting etc. systemd is saving you big cash.

How does it save cash?

Wow. Look at this faggot using coded language.

not sure if this is a meme or should I take it seriously and try implement it

>anime website
>only anime related board that has more than 6 posts/min is /a/
>/co/ is only a few posts/min behind it so it cancels /a/ out
>now the most popular anime related board is /jp/ at 6p/m with the next being /m/ with only 1p/m

systemd is awful, don't use it

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Both money and a woman's body are valuable, it's a fair analogy. kys incel

t. sjw

"shorts"

>is a layer of software in between kernel and user
like every other piece of software
>It's a fine system that copies the init system of MacOS
now you're LARPing hard

The same people that shit on SystemD also defend X, so you shouldn't take them seriously.

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hiring people that can maintain systemd
products that can help you with systemd system
etc.

its the standard, getting something obscure in production either will save tons, because its the holy grail or going to cost more either in time/planning or hiring/product cost etc.

Fair point, but most prior systems the services are just started by a shell script, which is pretty standard. There's Dan Bernstein's daemontools, which iirc don't even require any custom coding for each daemon. Then there's cron for timed jobs, and that's got a pretty standardised interface across unices..

Wrong. Sometimes rape is the only way to get some.
t. former campus rapist

It's only an academic concern until you're stuck looking at HDD sectors trying to read the logs (which I've done). Of course with encrypted file systems, that's all moot anyway, so the remaining concern is compatibility with existing log processing utilities (a very big investment in some cases).

you should do an AMA on reddit. Pls post link

youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo&t=745s

>pro anime
>pro systemd
100% faggot

You idiots, there is no such thing as a “system layer” in a Unix like os

the only init system with a future

I guarantee they never had a point where they went even 1 month without a commit.

Pottering died for our sins

systemd has had a rash of pretty serious bugs over the years, and as it has become more popular, its bugginess hasn't improved. There's also some innate security in obscurity, and given that none of my machines directly benefit from anything systemd does vs. sysvinit, the choice is pretty clear.
I've also found myself disliking Poettering more and more every time I see something he's said or done on a GitHub issue thread. He's spineless when other developers approach him with an issue, and he prematurely closes threads created by average users. He's a gigantic prick and I don't want to use his software, so I don't.

Do you think she fucks blacks?

>4channel is an anime website
Please hang yourself. You won't be missed

It's okay to not know anything about system level programming, but don't take that out on me. Leonnart stated explicitly that SystemD is modeled after osx's init system. You're ignorant and should learn more about the things you hate.
I didn't use the term userland because the op probably wouldn't understand the difference between that and just "user".
Just remember, we've been here since the beginning and will be here forevermore. You're the ones invading, and will be eternally unhappy. I'd recommend you find another forum.

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Just because there wasn't one before doesn't mean that one can't be made. And there is one that was made, its name is SystemD.

No, prostitutes usually have NO BLACKS as a thing on their listings.

Care to explain why?

Take it seriously. Nothought > Nofap > Noporn

If you were a prostitute what would you rather deal with
>a small white/asian dick
>a big black cock

Jow Forums is an anime board

>>It's a fine system that copies the init system of MacOS
>now you're LARPing hard
anti-systemdfags don't know what they are talking about. what a surprise.

didn't suckless.org tell you about this?
keep reading biased anti-systemd blog posts and stay ignorant.

>tfw no big sister GF

Black men are much more likely to beat or kill hookers, simple as that.

If systemd is as trash as you say, why is literally every big distro using it?

old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/aot1ga/benno_rice_the_tragedy_of_systemd_linuxconfau_2019/eg3lq4d/?context=2

Holy shit

the /s means that he was being sarcastic, yes i am fluent in redditspeak, no i will go back there

Lame.