Rate my political views

Rate my political views

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bad

Why

Bruh link me that shit

To live dangerously means to live, if you don't live dangerously you don't live

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right leaning centrist

normalfag/10

I'm not saying there are no intelligent individuals in the green zone, there are. But this is generally where I see young people fall when they don't really understand economics. Of course I have my biases so take anything I say with a pinch of salt.

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"Muh freedom"

libertarian left doesn't even seem possible to me, realistically.

I tend to be center right with equal parts libertarian and authoritarian, but I'm not taking one of these tests again.

my ideology literally shifts daily so anything i plot becomes inaccurate

>got a B in intro to micro
>muh understanding economics

Based

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"Libertarian left" on the chart is basically economically authoritarian, socially libertarian

Libertarian left = the government should do lefty stuff, but very little of it. Like, we need some kind of welfare system because we can't just throw all those government employees and contractors out on the street when we cut their budgets by 95%.

>libertarian
>government
Lole

Economic Left/Right: -9.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.62
>libertarian left doesn't even seem possible to me, realistically.
During the Spanish civil war it worked just fine for 7 years , then they finally got cucked by fascists
This

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Yes, most libertarians are for minimal government. Otherwise we wouldn't need the word libertarian, we'd just be anarchists.

Cringe and shitpilled

>t. not engaged in politics and thinks the solution to social divisions is simply telling everyone to be nice to eachother

who cares

Yo lads, is this bad?

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not really. that's about where I was last year, except a bit lower down. you'll probably settle closer to the center if this is a new result for you. pic related is mine

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Good to know that someone else here is more authoritarian.

Anyone above the middle line is a scumbag who wants their social views enforced on others. Green/purple bois are fine

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fite me

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>t. doesn't understand the political compass

Perhaps, pls explain

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"above the middle line" is a pretty harsh ruling for something like that. there's a margin of a couple squares around the dead center which is basically "rational normal people with convictions slightly in one way or another." everyone within like 3-4 blocks of the middle is pretty much just a normal person, past that is when people start to become misguided, misinformed, reactionist, radical etc.

To be fair my my main interactions with people above the middle line have been pretty high up in the top middle / top right. As a general rule though the higher up someone is the more and more things they want the government to have control over, arguably the same could be said about left when it comes to the markets but I don't feel as though that's stepping on my toes so much.

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>As a general rule though the higher up someone is the more and more things they want the government to have control over
That's right, yeah. I think a lot of people these days are only in the blue/red because of how lenient society has gotten. It's just sort of how the pendulum swings. There needs to be a balance between societal control and individual freedom, and since we're living in a very socially libertarian society people will naturally want to have more control and structure placed upon them and their neighbors. I think some sort of small government, morally policed nation would be ideal, but that's simply not viable with the reduction of religion we see today - and I say that being agnostic myself. Religion simply helps a ton in holding together the social structure of a collective.

>morally policed nation would be ideal
See that's what I take issue with. Obviously there are some basic moral things that are universal, like don't punch someone in the face, don't take other people's property etc, but so much other stuff is morally grey, and people have a wide range of opinions. I'm happy to let other people live by their own code and values, but if they try to impose their values onto me, I bite.

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>Obviously there are some basic moral things that are universal, like don't punch someone in the face, don't take other people's property
Wrong

I understand that cultures without hard rules regarding things like that can work, there tends to be a sort of mob justice in those sort of communities, and/or tit for tat behavior. Or were you coming from a more philosophical perspective where there are no moral absolutes? Cause philosophy like that can be interesting to think about but I don't think it's useful when considering how to run a society.

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Antifa beating trashcans/10

antifa hates libs, they're a buncha commies.

by "morally policed" I mean people holding strong morals and policing one another based on that. not a legitimate police state, but perhaps more "humility" from the general populace, you might say.

I don't care much for left right as long as your not an authoritarian.

Len a cute

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no bully

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Graph political/ideological tests are inaccurate, political/ideological tests with scales are better.

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Are you Stalin or Strasser?

What do you think?

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>I mean people holding strong morals and policing one another based on that.
Define strong morals. Should those morals be made law, or do you mean it more in a mob justice kinda way, like if you see a man hitting a woman you protect the woman etc?

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rate mine

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This is the only political compass that matters

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pretty bad

Depends on who you askin. It's fine to me tbqh

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>Or were you coming from a more philosophical perspective where there are no moral absolutes
I was coming to it From this angle
>Cause philosophy like that can be interesting to think about but I don't think it's useful when considering how to run a society.
I disagree but I don't wanna type of why.
Cute

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I disagree, this is

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Type why pls I like exposing myself to different view points also nice trips.

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fuck I forgot about that one

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>would not be bound by petty morality
AnCap

what?

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reverse left and right for economic
fucking socialists always trying to steal my property and paycheck

Yeah I wasn't gonna say anything but "I take what I want" is very uncharacteristic of purple. I don't think it was made by someone who understands the position.

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When your a classical liberal ^_^

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MFW my ideology is actually practical and improves society

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?!

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shitpost ideology is centrism change my mind

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Objectivism

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You seem alright, little too "Fuck yeah, 'Murica!" for my tastes but otherwise fine

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Ok here is the basic idea
Personally I view society as an entity which exists to preserve it's own existence. The only way it can have agency over the world is through human behavior ( as a metaphor humans are like cells and society is like the classification for the whole) . To a society , treating people well is an instrumental goal to it's own heuristic goal of self preservation. We have our rights because having those rights allow the society to continue to exist. You can define the function of many rights in two groups. Appeasement rights : rights that exist to keep individuals from replacing that society. Productive rights : rights that can be used to increase the power of society. Many rights fill both groups. The construction of morality is used to justify these rights , but all rights also serve an instrumental purpose for the preservation of the status quo. To a society the law allows for the suspension of rights according to certain conditions. Moral absolutism doesn't allow for a government to function because it does not allow for the suspension of rights. Which is key in the enforcement of the law. If we were morally absolute then we could not allow the government to he exempted from morality. Which would lead to an ineffective government. I think the problem is that many people think that the government is there to enforce morality when it actually done through need rather than through goal.

Pretty shit desu

I got the nationalism because I hate third worlders. It's funny I think I am one of the few nationalists that actually hates the country they live in

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Basically the government has to act against it's own morality to bring about what it desires as moral conditions. And that moral conditions are only a means of its own preservation . So by acting to create these conditions it makes an implicit exception for itself with moral action. Which is incompatible with the idea that some things are wrong inherently and never to be done.

Okay so we don't disagree with the fact that punching people and stealing things should be illegal, you just disagreed with the way I worded it? I generally agree with you on how societies function. I wasn't trying to make a case for moral absolutism, I was just saying a functioning society should obviously have laws to protect people and their property.

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>I got the nationalism because I hate third worlders.
Why's that?

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fucking fascist

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I don't want my government making decisions that consider the well being of non citizens. The main point of government is to promote the well being of citizens. also Africans and south Americans are generally poor and violent

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>punching people and stealing things should be illegal
Duh
> a functioning society should obviously have laws to protect people and their property.
This
>I don't want my government making decisions that consider the well being of non citizens.
50/50
There's a lot of dumb people out there.

>punching people and stealing things should be illegal
>Duh
The context of the conversation I was having earlier is relevant. I didn't just throw that point out for no reason.

>Okay so we don't disagree with the fact that punching people and stealing things should be illegal,
No I never talked about how things should be . I said that having no moral absolutism is Important in wanting to form a government.

what is the point of this post
not clear did not understand

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I know
You guys are boring...........Talk about capital murder or should we regulate the market.

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>No I never talked about how things should be
Eh? But such laws would easily fall into both your appeasement rights and productive rights categories. I'm not saying societies can't exist without them, but I figured they were a pretty good fit for what you were talking about. Am I missing something?

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Okay here is my hottest take. Lolicon isn't immoral and is actually moral

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I was talking about what societies did . I never said that those things were good.

how ofended do you feel today?
also
fucking die/10

Lolicon isn't immoral by itself but if you do lewd thing to a lolicon then you're immoral.
Okay here is my hottest take. If a 9 year old kid knew what he was doing in a murder of his grandmother. Should said kid get the death penalty, life in prison or should be release at the age of 18 and reexamined to see if he's set to go live a civilian life?

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get out of america

I don't think murder is a capital offense so no. If it was a kid then he should be let go preferably before the age of 18, and allowed to reintegrate into society

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bottom left is my favorite

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go commit not feel good leftoid

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>I don't want my government making decisions that consider the well being of non citizens.
Interesting. I can see the reasoning, given that's for the most part what every country does, so if your country is more altruistic than most then its the citizens who get the short end of the stick.

I can't really view things like that though, no matter what country you go to, I don't care if its the middle east or fucking north korea, the average citizens are just nice people. Nice people with wildly differing viewpoints maybe, but nice people nonetheless. I want humanity as a whole to succeed, I'm not interested in having an us vs them mentality.

So what would be good then? I'm not really grasping your position here.

Top left is my favorite cause I identify with the capitalist boi

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>I don't think murder is a capital offense so no.
In what way?
If it's a serial killer who murder the shit out of kids. You still stand on you believe? Shouldn't it be case by case?
>If it was a kid then he should be let go preferably before the age of 18, and allowed to reintegrate into society
What if he didn't change mentally, then what?

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>implying South Americans make up a majority of immigrants
Jesus christ you're a retard, do you even know what you type?

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speaking of politics could someone explain to me why most anarchists hat ancaps but seem to to have no problems with agorists? aren't they pretty much the same thing?

In practical terms humans are Tribalistic creatures whether you intend to be one or not. That is why it is only logical to compete for the benefit of one tribe over the other. Marx was right when he saw that when one benefits another loses out, so I wan't my tribe(country) to compete and take advantage of the other tribes to bring the maximal benefit to myself
If someone kills another it doesn't do any good till kill more people more death is never a good thing.
You would rehabilitate instead of punish
Jesus Christ a retard south and central Americans are the majority of immigrants to the U.S

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Only 6% out of all immigrant demographics are south american. There's literally 10 times more chink immigrants than there are south american immigrants. Even Carribean nigger immigrants are more than south americans immigrants, Mexicans and Chinks account for the most immigrants to the United States. You retards don't even know about the shit you spew out in a way to communicate with people

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>In practical terms humans are Tribalistic creatures whether you intend to be one or not. That is why it is only logical to compete for the benefit of one tribe over the other. Marx was right when he saw that when one benefits another loses out, so I wan't my tribe(country) to compete and take advantage of the other tribes to bring the maximal benefit to myself
I sorta agree, but it's not all about competition, and there are mutually beneficial arrangements, like fair trade. Also I tend to view humanity as a whole as my tribe. I don't identify strongly as an Australian, outside of the fact that this is where I happen to live. I mean sure the culture here probably played a big role in developing my personality and viewpoints but I could easily move.

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I wasn't talking about what would be good. But if you want a position I don't think we should have a government

Anarcho capitalism is the most based. Statists and commies get out.

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>You would rehabilitate instead of punish
And if they don't get rehabilitated? Also if you can't really live a normal life, if you think about it. Why? Well living in a media driven world don't you think that a big target on their back. A lot people call that unjust and so do I. like I said before everything should be based on a case-by-case scenario. you committed really heinous crime, then you should get capital punishment. But very rarely is capital punishment thing. It's now more less about sentencing someone to life. Which I also agree, you know do the crime, serve your time.
Now I'm just rambling on and my point being if you knew what you were doing and planned the murder or murders, then yeah death penalty.

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okay now this is epic

I think the point I was making is that it doesn't matter if you yourself aren't tribal. If the society around you is tribal which most societies are or they wouldn't be a society, and a society that isn't tribal will always be out competed by the united groups of nations. whether you like or not humanity has always been at war with itself and that fact is likely to remain the same.
I was a little inaccurate because I mistakenly assumed mexico was central america but I am correct in asserting that all those places south of the border are shit holes
I mean there will always be a certain number of people who are unable to be rehabilitated, but as an atheist, sentencing people to non existence is a much worse crime than murder

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>sentencing people to non existence is a much worse crime than murder
Okay can someone jump into this conversation because I don't get this?

If someone kills someone to nonexistence then shouldn't they be punished for non-existing someone? Say you were walking down the street then you got shot.....Boom you're gone forever. You're saying you don't want your murderer suffer the same fate as you?

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