I woke up this morning, my Void box was whirring happily. I used it a bit, just to tell it good morning. The Void laptop was sleeping in the living room, didn't want to disturb him, he works really hard. Then I visited Jow Forums and to my surprise I did not see a Void thread. Well, I am rectifying that situation right now.
Damn, it doesn't have QGIS. For anyone curious about which packages it has: voidlinux.org/packages/
Jayden Edwards
Eat breakfast, shower, go to school/work I'm assuming
Aiden Wood
>eat breakfast na, i just make a coffee >shower in the morning? >go to school/work I'm assuming why do you think i go on the computer? you don't work at home on your computer?
Samuel Butler
Void helped me learn how completely worthless Arch actually is.
Isaac Barnes
>na, i just make a coffee A cup of coffee can be a breakfast though >in the morning? Yes..? >you don't work at home No >on your computer No
Jaxon Powell
You're at starbucks and this guy slaps void linux on your gf's macbook air. What do?
>install void in a vm to give it a poke >xbps-remove wifi-firmware >breaks 'base-system' uh, why is wifi support considered critical? >xbps-remove linux-firmware-nvidia >breaks 'linux' why is it even a separate package, then? >xbps-remove void-artwork >breaks 'base-system' is this serious? as far as i can tell, there's nothing that can even display this artwork in the base system
Kayden Rodriguez
>Enter the unoccupied desolate emptiness, the void, slowly. Not really my thing, borrowing like that. It's, presumptuous.
you can setup void without installing base system. all you need is the root filesystem from the downloads page and then download whatever kernel you want. Its pretty much the way to go so you don't have deal with those dependencies.
Hunter Butler
xbps allows you to mark and unmark packages you want to keep. You can mark linux or whatever as manual, and then it will never be removed.
But best to do what said.
Jackson Allen
i don't like the idea of removing a distros' base metapackage, since then i miss out on important changes in the most basic packages
Adrian Kelly
Is there any sane way of doing this without knowing the ins and outs of every single package? The installer is super comfy, but a little bit bloated.
Nathan Powell
I use this method for the most part. Simply installing the root filesystem and running xbps-install -Su will give you all the neccessary base packages. All without installing base-system.
Thanks user. This, along with getting rid of the initramfs (compiling my own kernel with all the device drivers I need) is what I'll have to do. I'm reading the installer script right now to get an idea of what I need to do after the chroot installation. A shame they didn't make it less bloated in the first place.
Blake Walker
>musl >no systemdicks >no pacman stupidity >xbps-src is just a better version of the AUR >sensible binary repo unlike arch
Carson King
Musl is only better if you don’t care about some programs not working because they depend on glibc-specific quirks.
Asher King
To be fair the base install is very very small, only the essential utilities, really.
Jordan Harris
>210M worth of firmwares >only essentials
Nathaniel Butler
void is better version of arch but still shit and way below gentoo.
Luis Scott
Arch is literally bloated as hell, not even memeing
Oliver Robinson
no shit, if that's isn't basically the reason you're using it, you're doing it wrong
Aaron Parker
Why are voidniggers so prominent? No other "obscure" distro has this much of a following.
Justin Jenkins
void takes way too long to boot because it doesn't have systemd.
Wyatt Moore
I think the dude who makes these threads is trying to shill void so hard that Jow Forums will hate it out of pure contrarianism.
Matthew Cook
ugh, finally figured out dracut gotta use "--fstab" when using a chroot, otherwise it does... something. not sure why not doing that gives me an error that suggests the kernel can't decompress the initrd what a cunt fucking fast when it does work though, dang
Not bad at all. I'm DMless, but I might consider slim, it looks pretty good.
Kevin King
Fine, I'll stop. You have my word. All you had to do was ask. I admit I make a lot of the void threads.
Bentley Watson
systemd-boot is a pretty cool guy, yup
>inb4 omg it IS systemd, bloat, kill it with fire
Jason Roberts
i'm aware gummiboot and systemd-boot are the same thing
Ryan Adams
Maybe just decrease it to once a week; I don’t think anyone would be annoyed by that. I see a new Void thread every day or two.
Elijah Martinez
So you shower in the night AND morning?
Adam Jackson
Usually only in the morning. Why?
Gabriel Wood
Its not one guy making these threads. I also make void threads.
Jackson Thompson
Every single person that points to arch does it because it's "minimal" So, that's nowhere near the reason most people use arch.
Jason Morales
I'll give Void a try once it gets a more aesthetic logo.
Luke Gray
most people are idiots, then i've been using arch since 2012, and the reason is pretty much because it just werks, and it just werks because packages ship with everything enabled/included it's the laziest distro
Arch's GCC doesn't include gcc-offload-nvptx support, when even Ubuntu does.
Alexander Smith
>archlinux,org >A simple, lightweight distribution >You've reached the website for Arch Linux, a lightweight and flexible Linux® distribution that tries to Keep It Simple.
Jaxson Ross
Simple yes, lightweight no.
Ryder Johnson
old news.
Eli Butler
>old news >literally the newest news article on the site
Nolan Gutierrez
Doesn't seem like your opinion matches with the devs
The devs can say whatever they want, but a distro is certainly not lightweight when you're forced to install binaries+libs+headers of a package's every dependency.
Ethan Richardson
that's right, it doesn't
Brody Ortiz
>custom order sheet of void stickers so I can have one for each lappy >eyeball it with creased envelope for centering >after I put it on, realise it's ~5mm (visibly) off-center >mfw my face has entered the void
Noah Russell
void wont boot after i install it on a t440p, halp pls
William Sanchez
True, they can, maybe once it was, not sure how arch was years ago, but that's the image of arch nowadays.
The domain changed months ago. They've posted about this before. They're obviously just reposting it to remind people. Fuck them for keeping the community up to date, right?
Benjamin Smith
It's been seen like that here since ages ago, I guess I would've found out if I actually tried it.
don't let Jow Forums be your only source of information on any subject
Hudson Gomez
that’s disgusting. You sleep in your own filth. My bed is clean and I sleep well knowing I’m also clean.
You’re going to dry your skin out.
Robert James
I've had trouble getting uefi to work with my old thinkpads. >change boot options >partition perfectly >grub-install >grub-setup >"oh geez reading directions sure was eas--" >select boot medium Just use legacy boot
Isaiah Reyes
Do you change the sheets every time after having sex? Because if you don't, your bed isn't clean. So no, I I'm not really bothered that I don't shower before bed.
so dont use bios, i assume then my disk would have to be dos? and i would have to install grub to a 512mib mbr partition? same problem.
Jordan Sanchez
do you wear shoes indoors as well?
Blake Butler
just install it yourself then, ez
Thomas Collins
No? What is this, question hour?
Gabriel Brown
no, it’s question day. What’s your stance on proprietary software.
Juan Gonzalez
Maybe it's the weather here?
It's not very difficult to wake up all sweaty, so shower in the morning is a need, and of course, when I arrive back home, same thing, so gotta shower again.
That's pretty common here as you can see on the chart, people shower here on an average of 14 times a week, like I said.
For me, a shower is in order when I get up in the morning and also after I've finished any sort of activities beyond sitting at my computer for the day. Usually it'll be right after I get home from work but if I go out for dinner it will be after that - unless I got especially sweaty at work in which case it will be before dinner which sometimes leaves me in a state of being "food dirty" for bed but it's just something I live with because I don't want to take a third shower usually.
Tyler Mitchell
Yes, use bios boot if you're having problems. On MBR you don't need a boot partition at all; gpt, you will require 1MiB boot partition. I use the former because it just werks™ but if you need to dual-boot or something, be warned you'll only have 4 partitions max.
see above in theory installing grub is easy and everyone will tell you "works on my machine" in practive, you follow directions to a t and it won't do shit. Hell, I tried to run a persistent iso that uses efi. Enabled uefi boot and everything but it still shat the bed when it works on like anything else.
Dylan Ward
2 showers a day is optimal. I work remotely, but still feel the need to shower before I start working. When I feel dirty, so does my code.
Jayden Powell
Does it depend on lots of systemd packages? Is it worth the autism, or should I just stick to grub?
Cameron James
They might as well rebrand. Especially if voidlinux.eu goes up with something malicious.
Henry Brown
Devs themselves refute the "arch minimal" meme. Arch simply does not have an installer. Arch packages are realy bloaty.
Kevin Green
when people say arch packages are bloated so they mean size, functionality or number of dependencies pulled?
Dominic Anderson
>Void Linux >sex Everyone ITT is a virgin, except you user. Once you Enter the Void, there's no going back.
Nathaniel Morgan
arch packages bundle dependencies so you have a lower package count but everything is bigger, therefore bloated
Running Void on my T60 and also debating on using it on my main rig. Comfy stuff. Try running a system update; that resolves the shlibs issue for me.
Parker Bell
I don't know about that mirror user, but I'm using alpha.de.repo.voidlinux.org/current/x86_64-repodata. It's not even giving me an update for mpd. I did have a similar issue with IceCat a fews days ago and they fixed it later that day. I'd try another repo, if that doesn't work, just try to update it again later.
Brandon Powell
can update from this repo, but... does not resolve the issue. I can wait I guess. rn I can't install anything w/out temporarily uninstalling mpd
Dominic Murphy
That's odd. You should still be able to install and update other packages. Also, mpd should be working fine, it just won't update for now.