If they still existed, would they be Apple?

If they still existed, would they be Apple?

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>Commodore would be Apple if it still existed

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They still do exist. 8 bit guy makes videos about them all the time.

The CGI on Babylon 5 was done on an Amiga.

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No. You're thinking of the Beatles.

Excuse my incoming zoomer autism:
For Commodore to persist, we'd have to assume that the Amiga would gain success in the business/workstation market. Since you can't run on 68ks forever, they'd probably switch to PPC after a while. Microsoft would still win the IBM-clone market, like they did in our timeline, leaving CBM with a lone wolf of a platform. A powerful one (custom chips, etc.), but a lone one nonetheless. To combat this, they might switch over to x86 (like Apple eventually did), maybe not.

So unless they'd pull off something unexpected, they end up in a market position somewhere between HP and a justified Apple.

AFAIK modern "Commodore" is basically just marketing by other manufacturers who somehow got the rights to the name.

Garry Kildall was making graphical operating systems for Commodore that actually performed better than Mac. Garry died in 94, just a year before win95 came out and finally killed MSDOS. If Garry had lived another year I think he could have made Commodore competitive against MS

Commodore had some plans for Amiga going to PA RISC using a SOC design. It wouldn't be backwards compatible so probably not a good idea.
PPC were 3rd party hacks that grew into an abomination called Amiga OS 4 and a better system called MorphOS.

What system would that be? AFAIKAIKAL he didn't make anything for any Commodore system.

It's the wrong guy:
You mean Gary Kildall, creator of CP/M, GEOS and host of the computer chronicles.
He's talking about Garry Kildall, who got so upset over being confused for the other one, that he changed his name to Newman and wrote a popular Source engine mod.

I can't really imagine a world where the Amiga would have survived long-term against the onslaught of cheap IBM clones built on commodity hardware, especially once 3D accelerators became ubiquitous. The only reason Apple still exists today is because Steve Jobs was damn good at marketing, and Commodore never had a Steve Jobs.

The only thing that may have saved Commodore is if they had been more proactive about keeping the Amiga at the forefront of computer graphics and gaming. If they'd come out with a 3D-accelerated Amiga early enough at a consumer-friendly price point, they might have stood a chance, at least for a while.

>What system would that be? AFAIKAIKAL he didn't make anything for any Commodore system.
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who is this SQL demon?

Macintosh was a disaster from the beginning
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>1994
>Amiga 5000 is released
>PowerPC 601
>SGI graphics chipset
>CD-ROM drive
>less than $1000 w/o peripherals
Imagine if they'd done this.

>because Steve Jobs was damn good at marketing,
Jobs picked his battles.
While Commodore and Atari and all made their machines "IBM Compatible" he kept his non-generic. All but Apple were absorbed in the Windows fog and went under, rolled by cheaper and more plentiful clones.
They never achieved the economies of scale.
And it wasn't just Jobs. For 12 years of this period Jobs was at NeXT.

Jobs just kept dumping money into pixar and next until they were successful

>And it wasn't just Jobs. For 12 years of this period Jobs was at NeXT.
During which Apple languished and nearly went bankrupt. No, it was just Jobs. If they hadn't brought him back Apple would not exist today.

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That would have been amazing.
Workbench could have evolved to be the premier music production OS as well, given the popularity of Amiga trackers.
And the seeds for a homebrew software community were already planted, that's a lot of wasted potential so early in the history of home computing.
>tfw born in the wrong timeline

>You mean Gary Kildall, creator of CP/M, GEOS and host of the computer chronicles.

hahahaha oh wow

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I thought the PA-risc was supposed to be part of a chipset? Like as a co-processor.