Is this a botnet, Jow Forums? It looks too much like a honeypot to me

Jow Forums fags are the worst.
They talk a lot about free speech while they jerk off to the guns and pictures of Trump, but the moment anyone criticizes them or Trump they get triggered, doxx and send threats. Free speech goes both ways, hypocrites.

overloading the system malicously with bot comments is abusing said system, one politically incorrect comment is not.

Just classify spam with NLP and collapse said text so that anyone can see it if they want to, but make it so that it doesn't interfere with real traffic.

>trying to keep moral superiority in a cultural war
The opposition does it, so why wouldn't you?

This sounds like a normie NPC hive, like Facebook. Big-Screen phones allow any sub-human cretin to go on the Internet easily now.

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>spam Infographics
Depending on whether it is relevant to the conversation or not.

I mean a policy against off-topic and disruptive behaviour isn't a position of censorship.

Censorship is spamming and disrupting the discussion you don't want people to have, rather than removing a disruptive individual.

A free speech position is
>Come and argue with me
But when someone is trying to disrupt an argument kicking him out is appropriate

What are you on about? You can go post whatever you want on Jow Forums as long as it's political and legal in the US

Calling names, slander, doxxing and assaulting individuals isnt a legit form of intellectual conversation.

Try again actually politely.
I dont read everything but i normally respond meanigfully to the posts that arent an obvious bait or start with an insult and false assumption.
Or don't bother responding at all.

>throwing poo at each other on twitter
>cultural war

>getting doxxed and losing your job, being attacked or thrown in jail
>throwing poo on twitter
Guess you read the news from carved rocks.

>Jow Forums doesn't want free speech, they want an echo chamber that's more aligned with their political outlook. That's fine, but don't pretend to be some free speech absolutist because it's disingenuous.

You sound like you've been to Jow Forums, got ridiculed for being a 19 year old commie cuck and then left again in tears. We don't want an echo chamber, you can post whatever the fuck you want. You just can't expect to not be challenged.

>Dissenter
More like Dissentery

Am i right, Jow Forums?

That's not what I meant. But what you mentioned is not a war either, it's rightful massacre of your sorry nazi asses.

rekt

>t. söy

>rekt
Permanent state of nazis. Get used to it.

>it's rightful massacre of your sorry nazi asses
So you're saying Jow Forums's attitude is justified?

Glad we agree on that.

Sure, why not, doesn't really matter if every time they're going public with that attitude they're getting btfo everywhere from irl to the internet.

Good post. The solution is quite simple though: threaded comments and no inline images.

Please don’t associate us with Zionist, leadhead Trump acolytes. Thank you.

t. national socialist

>Admitting and boasting about literal tyranny

Well i guess that turns any right wing terrorism into legitimate resistance and self defense.

I seriously hope you guys provoke the civil war and learn whom does the army, police and literally everyone with a gun support.

Then the rest of the world can be free from the heavy burden of your existence and enjoy games and movies with actual entertainment rather than gay nigger divercity.

Right, i associate you with communists, progressives, and bolsheviks, since your political program is literally indistinguishable except bonus ethnic supremacy which doesn't really change the flavor all that much.

>t. lolbertarian

Do you actually trust the government that much?

I think Gab disallowed pornographic content awhile back. Not sure though. You could try Minds instead.

>communists, progressives, and bolsheviks
one of these things is not like the others

That’s fine. We share our economic principles with the ever popular “Scandinavian Model” of progressive socialism. Once that takes hold globally our ideologies will all be much more focused, and of the four ours clearly has the most in common with the working class’s inherited values. The future is bright.

Of course the anti-semitism is a sticking point, but contrary to popular belief it (along with Hitlerism) are irrelevant to the core ideals and considered by many among us to be distasteful and obsolete.

I've been browsing Jow Forums for years m8. Not even a communist.

Jow Forums doesn't want absolute free speech because that would mean things like blacked and tranny porn flood the board. Jow Forums THINKS they want free speech, but what they mean is freedom to post conservative/nazi opinions on mainstream websites.

Itt: lefties trigger themselves.

>I mean a policy against off-topic and disruptive behaviour isn't a position of censorship.
It inherently is because "disruptive" is a subjective decision. One man's free speech is another's disruption.

CPC viewed Tiannamen square protests as a disruption to Chinese society, as an example.

Very good post user

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>whom does the army, police and literally everyone with a gun support
No one supports you, you're an embarrassment, an abortion of failed state, useless and worthless minority. Unite the Right is done, whoever ironically shared frogs with you in 2016 now fully understands the price of going out there with that message.
I would've encourage you to "self defend" yourself, because the faster we're done with you, the better, but looks like you're nothing but a polshitter, so whatever.

>honeypot
just use it like normal, what are they going to do, arrest you for just saying "lol"?

this

But the only way for a decentralized "commenting system" to work, is for there to be no censorship. It's impossible.
You would have to piggyback off a semi-centralized moderation "censorship" platform on the same network.
Basically people would create their own filter lists and people would use them based on trust.

An ideal decentralized comment system would have an "audit" mode, which would allow you to see what a comment stream is like without moderation by leeching without seeding.

>It inherently is because "disruptive" is a subjective decision
It's not if you establish an objective set of rules and follow it to the letter

1 /pol is more than one person.
2 /pol has no coherent ideology other than being over-reactionary to the current issues at hand.

Currently they see the push of divercity as literal oppression of normal non vibrant people which it really is.

And a push aginst family in general as a way to reduce native population and create a demand for migrants.

And so they manage to embrace racism, anti-semitism and christianity in the same time as bizzare as it is it just a reaction to a threat.

If the things were to change and /pol got what they currently ask for they would get a different set of problems and swung 180° going full liberal campaigning for hentai, loli sex dolls and transhumanism.

People wouldn't hate trannies so much if they weren't universally authoritarian scum.

How do you distinguish noise from on-topic discussion? You can't without making a value judgement on speech which is inherent to censorship. For instance, if I want to talk about political implications of popular movies on /tv/ or whatever, some people might see that as on topic and some people might not. I'm likely to catch a ban from the janny for doing it. Is that censorship?

This is a very hard problem that even large companies struggle with (balancing user freedom and appropriateness for the platform)

It makes MSM shit concrete beams so it must be good. I registered just in case but probably won't use it much.

>be some time ago
>censorship discussion thread
>somebody mentions about comment secions and jannies
>I mention that a browser extension could bypass them
I truly believe this plugin came from a suggestion I made. I'm surprised somebody actually went and realised it.

Large companies struggle with moderation because they insist on sticking to a centralized model, which is core to their business model.
The solution, obviously, is to make users handle their own moderation by encouraging them to subscribe to community-curated filter lists a la easylist.
For the autists in the room, a "community-curated filter list" can be a statistical model, algorithmic, voter consensus, dictatorship, forked, merged... Be creative.

But this model runs completely counter to their core business and so they will never do it. You can't make money from a platform you don't technically own.

>Objective set of rules
That relies on a boundary for what is "on-topic" and what isn't, which is very hard to define without making value judgements.

Trannies used to be reasonable despite their delusions until a bunch of outsiders decided to turn it into both a fashion and political statement.

I feel sorry for the ones who have been pushed out by the loud ideologically driven cross-dressers with bad makeup.

>Implying you are the only person in the world that could come up with that idea

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I am egotistical enough to think I am. I'm an idea's guy.

No.
This is language subversion.
The lefties claim that proving them wrong and disrupting their narrative is "harmful" "dangerous" and "disruptive".

But the
At is just a lie and subversion of definition.

Speaking whatever you have in mind while behaving politely and civilized is not disruptive.

Trying to prevent others from speaking by shouting, spamming, air horning, pulling fire alarm, calling a bomb threat is
1 NOT SPEECH or an approprite expression of self
2 is literally objectively disruptive by definition of disruption.

See Jared Taylor arguing with Sargon, its an incredible video on how fucking polite and gentlemenlike the both are despite the fact sargon is losing all ground to Jared, and Jared looking just like a fucking devil, he speaks so nice, polite and provides great arguments to everyone's good but his ideas bear a very SINISTER implication.

Now thats a civilized argument.

The idea is old. _why did hoodwink.d in 2005 which was a very, very similar idea.

I admit the practical implementation is not that easy. On the other hand, the most annoying things are the most obvious ones. For instance 20 BLACKED threads are just spam to be deleted. 20 flat earth threads can be consolidated into one etc.

>The solution, obviously, is to make users handle their own moderation by encouraging them to subscribe to community-curated filter lists a la easylist.
Of course, this has its own set of problems with creating echo chambers and 20 different versions of the same thing because of the narcissism of small differences. This isn't unlike how reddit (in b4 go back) sorta worked before they started quarantining and banning "hate subs" or whatever.

People have been using the archives and ghostposting extensions to bypass moderation for at least a decade

>echo chambers
Defaults matter. Most users never change their default settings, and it becomes an important baseline for any product you make.
It will only become an echo chamber if you make certain subscriptions default, which analogous to the situations in many decentralized social networking platforms (they have centralized moderation which bans other networks).

>20 different versions of the same thing
But that's the point. People should be able to make their own filters.
People will realize that there is a core set of lists which are most popular, and for good reason (i.e. a CP filter and a bot spam filter) and then fork the aggregation of these to form their own block lists.

>his ideas bear a very SINISTER implication
Kek they aren’t sinister. It’s just ethnic national, you’re the one extrapolating that beyond reason into neo-colonialism and ethnic cleansing.

Yoy make a CONTENT judgement, not value judgement.
>A is it even coherent, or is it litaral meaningless noise
>B does it have anything to do with the topic at hand
>C is it openly provocative to discuss something else or derail discussion
>D is it literal shock content to scare the people away
Et cetra.

There are objective qualities that arent VALUE to information.
A loud fart isnt speech, literal porn spam isn't speech, board wipe isn't speech, interrupting others isn't speech.

If someone politely discusses the benefits of genocide in a political discussion this is a free speech.

When someone tries to promote genocide in a beach fashion discussion this is off-topic disruption

HELLOO WAKE UP
The actually reasonable forum moderation guidelines are older than both of us, date probably to Ancient Greeks.

>The lefties claim that proving them wrong and disrupting their narrative is "harmful" "dangerous" and "disruptive".
There are a number of conservatives who would ban certain classes of speech under the same category except they wouldn't use "hateful" and "harmful" as their qualification for disruptive, they'd use "degenerate" or "harmful to kids" or whatever. Jow Forums might classify someone giving counseling to a teenager with gender identity disorder or whatever as socially disruptive/degenerate.

>People will realize that there is a core set of lists which are most popular, and for good reason (i.e. a CP filter and a bot spam filter) and then fork the aggregation of these to form their own block lists.
Except they won't and just leave the site. And advertisers will take notice and leave the site too. So yeah, if you want to sell, you make retards comfortable. There is no other way.

He basically says
>Lets legalize racial discrimination
>The niggers will be free to leave if they dont like it. In fact they can just nake their own Wakanda if they like.
And somehow he sugarcoats it as if that was a benefit for niggers.

He is a smart Libertarian who understands that libertarianism would figuratively DEVOUR tge poor, the weak and the unsexy, libertarians really wants the poor to just starve to death and stop being poor, its true.
But Jared is sugarcoating it as a benefit for the poor.

>they'll just leave the site
What website?
>advertisers
What advertisers? This isn't a business. Businesses can't do this.
This is a decentralized commenting system.

There is no "would", they were doing it for decades for real in every mass media. /pol usually conveniently forget about it and scream lefties were the ones who started it.

Google sure wants censored websites, you cant even find dissenter through a google search

12:01 google censors any searches for dissenter

I believe teaching children about gay sex and 356 genders should be prosecuted as the minor corruption.

But outside of that i believe any conversation between adults is permissible.
Children arent adults and their parents can and should control the information for them.

The MODERN conservatives arent paleo-conservatives.
I do not support conserving the monarchy or the social policies of 1800s.

I support conserving the LIBERAL values and freedoms we had like 20 years ago before the PC, socialism and globalism started creeping in

We were talking about large companies at some point, I guess? ()

>This is a decentralized commenting system.
Ok. Here's the proposal, submit your fixes:
>Sir, how would you like to be a part of uncontrolled unmoderated discussion platform? There is CP, but you may hide it. You still would host it though, because you are the node, and we really need nodes since we're decentralized.

Tbh this is the same problem that has faced Tor and public blockchains and law enforcement has generally taken a non-prosecution stance for these things but that might subject to change

>The MODERN conservatives arent paleo-conservatives.
I don't know about that m8, browse Jow Forums and there's a fair number of posts freaking out about satanism who you'd suspect would be fine with locking up 2 Live Crew and/or Slayer for obscenity 30 years ago.

>hide
Not downloaded nor seeded, if it is already filtered.
Purged, if it is filtered later.
Filtered universally, if an appropriate feature detection algorithm is used.
Impossible if images are disabled.

>uncontrolled and unmoderated
As was GeoCities in the 90s and early 2000s.

>you would still host it
Who says anything about hosting a node yourself? I would host mine on AWS. Text-only.

The police are concerned with seeders. They don't care so much about anyone that is not a source.

Jow Forums is full of actual computer-illiterate boomer conservatives aswell as alt-rightards

Honestly the easier it gets to distribute CP the lower it value gets since digital redistribution creates unlimited supply.

So if CP was legal to share and own, it would be as cheap as pornhub videos and nobody would bother breaking the law to make it since the pay isn't worth the risk thus less actual sexual exploitation of minors and more pedos just jerk off rather than raping anyone.

There's a contradiction in your statement.
>if CP was legal to share and own
>nobody would bother breaking the law to make it
While the abuse of minors and the ownership of CP are different laws, its """value""" does not come from the artificial scarcity imposed by either set of laws.
Legalizing CP would not change a thing, just as banning or unbanning gore would not change a thing about gore.

/pol Doesn't represent the conservatives, its just a psychotic reactionary movement against anything left because the left objectively went too far and we need to move back to right just a little bit to end up near center.

That's retarded. We have an unlimited free supply of porn, and porn productions have not stopped. In fact, people are creating more porn than ever before.

Legalizing child porn would not improve anything; it would probably make it worse.

>the left objectively went too far and we need to move back to right just a little bit to end up near center.
the fallacy of centrism is that the truth lies somewhere inbetween the right and left

>people finding a way to comment on our articles despite us removing the comment section!
>SHUT IT DOWN REEEEEEE

Based. Centrists are just weak faggots who can't pick a side and stick to it.

> would be fine with locking up 2 Live Crew and/or Slayer
You mean Tipper Gore and the Dems, right? Because they're the ones who came for 2 Live Crew. Moral busybodies don't have to be religious to be a moral busybody.

I don't think it would work this way, as well producing CP is pleasurable (for one of the sides).
But just trying to wipe everything out of the internet just makes harder to hunt the pedos.
I think it should be just hard enough to keep the pedo rings out of the google search, but easy enough to allow em to discuss and organize in "public", where you can shove a bunch of FBI plants.

You sure about that? I found the google chrome addon and the wikipedia page "Gab dissenter" on the first page.

Politics can't be even close to described in 1D, the whole "left-right".
For example, a centrist on the "between left and right' would have to agree with everything both sides agree on, so in the current case, the centrist would have to be a fucking authoritarian.

>its """value""" does not come from the artificial scarcity imposed by either

Its value is AMPLIFIED by artificial scarcity.
I checked horse dick porn out of morbid curiosity and there's basically nothing fresh since when i was a sex crazed teenager 10 years ago looking for something extreme.

>Distribution of horse porn isnt illegal everywhere, so there are open free porntubes with free content
>Fucking horse is illegal and just physically hard and dangerous
>Fucking a horse isn't worth the hypothetical pay
>Nobody does it

It would be tge same if a CP Porntube existed. People would stop raping children to sell the video since its the risk is greater than the benefit.

>Who says anything about hosting a node yourself? I would host mine on AWS.
So you're talking about another hundred person decentralized project with no chance to grow bigger? No one else would bother with this shit.
>>As was GeoCities in the 90s and early 2000s.
I'm sorry, but tech can't go back 20 years just because back then it wasn't possible to process so much data and reliably find offensive material.
>Not downloaded nor seeded
Finally you're hurting the distribution if you let your nodes opt out of certain type of content. It's essentially a form of censorship, you kinda don't remove stuff outright, but making it slower.

>Extreme right is a nightmare and terror.
>Extreme left is nightmare and terror
Both are historically documented.
As well as being neither is generally ok and better everywhere.

Dissenter is proprietary software that censors you.

Surely it will become popular after the 10th time.

If I recall it wasn't just Tipper Gore/dems, it was a bunch of wives of public figures from both parties. Satanic panic predates it but played a part in all the obscenity/PMRC cases of the late 80s/early 90s

People are not so simple as to be summarized by "the right and the left", this opposition is in actually engineered by the two parties in power, who want to consolidate voter blocs by "claiming" an opinion, forming a caricature of their "average voter", though in reality few people (extremists) truly fit these caricatures.

No, horse porn doesn't exist because nobody is interested in getting fucked by a horse and dying.
Gore is unchanged because people will not be killed for the sake of publishing videos.
CP will be unchanged because predators are not businessmen and not mafiosos.

>I support conserving the LIBERAL values and freedoms we had like 20 years ago before the PC, socialism and globalism started creeping in
The door was open, it just took 20 years to roll it in full force and you were too dumb to notice.
It's just like saying you want calm before the storm to stay forever, except it's not fucking possible without the fucking storm sometime later.

You're misunderstanding me
People who pick a side are even dumber

>with no chance to grow bigger
It doesn't matter whether it grows or not, merely being able to say "I told you so" is enough.
>reliably find offensive material
That's the key word. Finding. Why are you looking for it?
>hurting the distribution
Why are you requiring us to distribute content nobody wants?
This is not a business. We have no service level agreements to adhere to.

I think you should try to better understand Thomas Jefferson's Agrarian Dream.

whats Jow Forums's obsession with Jow Forums?

Sometimes for both sides mate.

But either way there is a great risk involved in the process.
If there weren't big money at stake the commercial exploitation would greatly diminish.

Ofcourse most people just do it for themselves and never film anything but pornography was proven to decrease sex crimes.

>Desperaly want sex
>Have no choice but to commit a crime and rape a woman
Or
>Desperaly want sex
>Watch porn, masturbate, and get over it risk free without violence and criminality.

I think you should name it "10-person circlejerk with no purpose". You don't really need a catchy name anyway, and "decentralized commenting system" is way far from what you're describing.

>No, horse porn doesn't exist because nobody is interested in getting fucked by a horse and dying.

Go check Siswet19.
I think a horse would find her loose.
Theres a lot of videos with, gaping bliwn out asses, fire extinguishers in any orifices and generally enormous objects, the field is wide and blooming.

But nobody fucks horses, they get a fuck machine with a traffic cone instead, or a dragon dildo that is bigger than a horses dick.