We now know that modern CPU design is deeply flawed...

We now know that modern CPU design is deeply flawed. These chips were created and designed at a time when the web was used to read simple static pages and javashit did not exist.

We now know that it is possible to own a computer with some lines of javascript, even in a virtualized environment, thanks to these CPU flaws, and we also know that these flaws cannot be mitigated with software. But manufacturers do not seem to care about changing things at the silicone level either: They will keep selling insecure shit in order to keep improving performance.

What is the future of technology, Jow Forums? Will we have to migrate to a new architecture? Will people just accept that their computers have a backdoor and deal with it?

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Just get an AMD CPU instead.

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They just keep using more silicone to glue chiplets together

The i9 literally has to be submerged in cooling liquid to work optimally and then it still has these issues.
People just dgaf because this is all you find at the stores. The ones that do care buy specific hardware.

ROCK64

same flaw. its not based on an open standard, the design isn't transparent and prone to flaws, that's the same issue with arm and powerpc, even mips.
the only solution we can hope for is risc-v, if that won't fly, you can bet your ass that you will have divided people, by those working and snitching for mega corporations and those who have to suffer the consequences of being the transparent citizen in a glass house, using that technology.

And don't know much about the CPU industry but I'm certain everything is moving towards open hardware or at the very least RISC-V implementation everywhere

FUD you retard, AMD chips are fine.

No, they are not, retard. The problem lies with speculative execution, which is used by all chips. Stop being a retarded fanboy.

It's time for VLIW. I don't think the "complex compiler" argument holds up today.

NO SEE MICROSOFT AND INTEL ARE GOOD AND BASED IF YOU DISAGREE YOU'RE JUST A SHILL TRANNY COMMUNIST

Bitch you don’t understand just what out of order execution and speculative execution has bought us in terms of performance. It’s complex so of course it is flawed. The real problem is you running untrusted code on your computer.

Everyone is running untrusted code dozens of time every day. That's how the internet works.

It is a disaster that some code running without special privileges can do anything on a system as if it was running as root. This is not something trivial.

>The real problem is you running untrusted code on your computer.
We should abandon javascript and go back to HTML and PHP only.

>The real problem is you running untrusted code on your computer.

Ding ding

Unironically this

Yeah, Intel's problem is a lot worse. AMD has some specific Spectre issues which are really hard to take advantage of. Meanwhile, Intel has a plethora of holes in it, some exploitable with simple javascript code.

Don't play the false neutrality bias game here, fanboy.

The main problem is that CPU side channel attacks which are either difficult or impossible to patch are now a thing. And while Intel are the worst offender, more problems are bound to crop up across lots of different platforms.

Waiting for people to come up with vulnerabilities and then trying to patch them as quickly as possible has been a clusterfuck strategy for software security, it'll be a disaster for hardware.

Not all chips use speculation...

It does. VLIW have not been shown to work well for general purpose code, the kind of code most people run.

The +90% of the chips used today do, though.

x86 is on its way out anyway
The real concern is making sure ARM doesn't become the dominating arch

buy POWER9, goy