I fell for the install gentoo meme

>I fell for the install gentoo meme

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emerge conman / iwd or wpa_supplicant in live mode and maybe don't skip the handbook.

Time to chroot

Does that mean I have to boot from the live CD for the fourth time...

Sorry, it is connman. Nice little client. You can also finish the handbook regardless.

I went through the handbook. What did I miss?

Yes, though the fourth time is probably only required because you skipped parts in the handbook. Either way, you'll have the required packages installed in 5 minutes or so, no big deal.

>Installing system tools
>Networking tools
>Installing a DHCP client
>Optional: Install wireless networking tools

Basically these:
wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Full/Networking

But you can just use connman. Add it to your init (as well as iwd if you use that), run agent on, connect to your wlan.

Haha good guys. Another one

Ah yes, it's actually in another section too:
wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Tools#Networking_tools

The worst part is that during my 2nd gentoo install attempt, I wanted to quit and go back to Windows 10. However when I partitioned the disks, I lost Windows. I’m forced to use gentoo now.

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why didnt you just try it on a vm first

Holy fuck, unless you're an illiterate chimp, there's no reason to fuck up the installation. It's become piss easy.

I didn’t even know what disk partitioning was and the risks of it so I thought no matter what I did with gentoo, I could just go back to windows.

I think partitions are explained at length, not sure how you managed to delete yours. Are you just not reading?

Anyhow, just finish installing it then.

You're a fucking idiot.

It’s not my fault. I’ve only used windows since I was 8 (23 now) so I never had to understand how computers work to such a degree, even when I program.

nigga just install mint or ubuntu.

>It's not my fault
Whose fucking fault is it then? You didn't do the appropriate research and just decided to do thing, note you're paying the price. Next time, read the instructions.

Of course it is your fault. Gentoo is perfectly fine, you just need to read.

But this is a good opportunity to learn something about computers and following instructions, I guess. Skills for intelligent people.

I hope this is a lesson to you to be wary of Linux gospel. It's good enough on its own, but there are many pitfalls one can unwittingly fall into that evangelicals neglect to warn novices of.

No idea how to use connman desu. Should I just give up and boot from the live cd (for the 4th time)

I can’t download it and write an image to my flash drive without internet ;_;.

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You can be witless and dig your own pits, for the most part. And yea, operating Linux is also different than the rootless Android most people use.

No shit you can mess with the machine if all parts are exposed, but it's actually generally fine unless you're being a retard. Which we actually have rootless Android for.

Despite what Jow Forums tells you, you don't need Gentoo.
Caring about so much stuff with Linux like optimization, completely free software, and so on is only going to make your life needlessly more difficult. Don't be afraid to go with a more "pleb" distro like OpenSUSE, because it's reliability and ease of use which is most important.
If you use Windows 10, not too much reason to care about potential spyware. It's not like W10 is a perfect OS either.

>No idea how to use connman desu. Should I just give up and boot from the live cd (for the 4th time)
Yes, you need the network connection from the live cd to install it, although you can decide between either of these required USE-flags in /etc/portage/package.use now.

Also install these manually just in case:
wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Tools#Networking_tools

your attitude is not good for promoting Linux
calling people retards for having other priorities in life and just wanting a decent OS while having some inkling of what makes it good is not helpful or inspiring at all

emerge linux-firmware networkmanager
nmtui

done

Gentoo has good reliability and ease of use, actually.

You can always argue whehter anyone needs more than unrooted Android too. Why bother with anything but the Google store, all these complications.

If you learn to handle things, you then having choices resulting from that. You need to first know something to understand what the best choice is.

ok if you can use the internet with the live cd. just dl mint then dd the iso to a spare usb.

>I'm ignorant and that's not my fault.
Well you're right about one thing, you ARE ignorant...

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>Gentoo has good reliability and ease of use, actually.
to someone who has a large amount of experience with the Linux system, sure
to someone new, it's overwhelming with its emphasis on cryptic commands, extensive, barebones manual installation, and obscure maintenance.
>You can always argue whehter anyone needs more than unrooted Android too.
Sure but that'd be dumb since it doesn't run desktop programs.
>Why bother with anything but the Google store, all these complications.
Inferior software.
>You need to first know something to understand what the best choice is.
And there are simple ways of explaining things rather than merely stating "Gentoo is the best hands down and you don't need anything else."
It has pros and cons that aren't too difficult to breakdown for a newcomer.

>your attitude is not good for promoting Linux
Yes, I'm obviously promoting unrooted Android. [If you are a retard]

> calling people retards for having other priorities in life
What are you then if you approach the most complex machines in existence with the attitude that you surely don't need all these instructions to handle anything and that nothing can go wrong?

And in reality, the least problematic thing has happened: user just needs to go back and follow the instructions he missed, and keep using his eyeballs from now on. It wasn't even a difficult to fix mistake.

Once again, Gentoo isn't about performance, it's about flexibility and customization.

Back to square 1. Why do people use shit like gentoo anyway when you can setup Windows 10 easily as fuck and have a bunch of software ready to go. Genuine question.


[spoiler]I only own 1 usb and it’s the one I boot gentoo from[/spoiler]

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>to someone who has a large amount of experience with the Linux system, sure
No, just to someone who can read a few pages of instructions.

> Sure but that'd be dumb since it doesn't run desktop programs.
If you have the attitude that everything should be as easy and "safe" - that's your ticket; it's actually what most people do.

Desktop programs are too cryptic, extensive, too much manual installation and lead to obscure maintenance. Yup yup.

> And there are simple ways of explaining things rather than merely stating "Gentoo is the best hands down and you don't need anything else."
Who did? It almost always is "nice operating system you can fully control", even here.

And the cons aren't what you mentioned, but that you just need to read some instructions. You'll also need this to a lesser or bigger degree on other distros, depends on what exactly you do; it's actually not obvious once you're with the crowd that isn't using Android all day long.

>What are you then if you approach the most complex machines in existence with the attitude that you surely don't need all these instructions to handle anything and that nothing can go wrong?
that's the case for a lot of Linux distro installers except perhaps when it comes to partitioning. They take care of network and other drivers, which newbs are frequently totally ignorant of. Having friendly instructions built into the install process that uses clear language and has safeguards against users shooting themselves in the foot is a good thing.
Gentoo not having these things is not necessarily a bad thing, but Gentoo wasn't made with new users in mind.

Install fedora and thank me later

If this isn't bait, why did you grab the minimal install CD?

Because they want flexibility and customization. Don't use Gentoo you absolute retard. Use Ubuntu.

is the newest version any good?
Fedora 27 was frustrating at times

It was the first choice

> Back to square 1.
No, just mount, chroot and continue where you missed the instructions. In this case, emerge a bunch of the packages you missed.

> Why do people use shit like gentoo anyway when you can setup Windows 10 easily as fuck and have a bunch of software ready to go.
For the same reason 60%+ of people now just use unrooted Android where they can use it "easily as fuck" and not have all the Windows 10 problems.

There are also distros that install like Windows 10, however. And then there are distros like Gentoo that do what the introduction in the handbook said.
> Gentoo is all about choices. When installing Gentoo, this is made clear several times - users can choose how much they want to compile themselves, how to install Gentoo, what system logger to use, etc.
> configuring Gentoo happens through regular text files
>The Gentoo Installation can be seen as a 10-step procedure

... and so on. If you don't like it, use something else. I was assuming you're here because you wanted something like this, but now I guess you even skipped that part of the handbook and any other sources?

Just install networkmanager and use nmtui to connect to the network and be done with it.

>linux system

Gentoo handles this in the handbook with instructions. You saw the OP screenshot, right?

All he didn't do was do this or the subsequent networking section: wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Tools#Networking_tools

Else he'd have had these tools and surely managed to connect. It's a matter of reading and some basic thinking, not being an expert. They're not assuming you are an expert in the handbook,

When I finish setting up gentoo, will I be able to run all of my steam games or play browser games like I could in Windows 10?

>all of my steam games
Probably not
>play browser games
Probably

Touhou runs fine and that's all that matters though.

How about YouTube, porn, music, discord, netflix, etc

Being this dumb to not to read the handbook

>YouTube
It does
>Porn
Yup
>Discord
don't use but I'd imagine it does
>Netflix
same as discord

Enable Android tethering and install accordingly, there's many ways to go about

Is there a need to run an anti-virus?

Can't boot with headless luks in other distro without more effort than Gentoo installation

Not really. Do use firejail though.

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No. Theoretically virus' can run if someone made one (very few put them in the wild, so there are very few virus' to protect against in reality).

But even if, they're having trouble hiding from all the various tools and/or escalating privileges on Linux.

A more useful way to have a bit more security is to employ sandboxing/containerisation (firejail, bubblewrap, systemd-nspawn, docker, ...) or mandatory access control (Apparmor, SeLinux, ...),

don't surrender user! you can do it!

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I can’t surrender, gentoo is the only OS I have access to.

Is there a cozy Jow Forums irc I can chat on while I play around with gentoo?

No, but you can shitpost on firefox-bin or in live mode while the rest emerges?

Well there's #Jow Forums on rizon but I don't know if I'd exactly call that cozy.

I don't think he has X or wayland yet.

Why the fuck did you decide to go to gentoo when you've only ever used Windows, did you take one look at Jow Forums and think "Yeah this is a good idea." Absolute amateur.

Pretty much. I was curious.

>I don't think he has X or wayland yet.
He should just emerge sddm/lightdm and some desktop environment (idk, xfce4 or whatever else) in live USB mode then so he probably has xorg when he switches to the installed system again.

Even if not, if the machine is reasonably recent, xorg takes a few minutes.

Well, enjoy the culture shock I suppose
Welcome, the ride never ends

Before I mount and chroot, is there anything wrong with my partition?

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Not as far as I can tell right now. I'd do it a bit differently, but it's nothing I'd reinstall the machine for.

dude I think he didn't even eselect a Desktop profile
eselect profile list
eselect profile set (number)

This is correct. This is my punishment for not reading closely. Right now I’m emerging the files for plasma

fuck off redhat shill

>i never had to understand how this device that I use daily and runs my world works
Unless you are a nomad in the wilderness, you should learn how a computer works at a basic level. People like you are why we have so many issues with things in tech.

Use an ethernet cable you dumb fuck

Gentoo is a puzzle.
Don't complain about not being able to find the pieces you want.

I miss windows desu

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Use the same setup as the liveUSB or the all enabled Genkernel config?

Also you already did the kernel, didn't you? Unless you got it wrong?

I already used genkernel, but I’m redoing it just in case I fucked something up

>emerging qt
"unspeakable pain, unmeasearable agony, time ceases to exist, only this torture"

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Why not correct it with genkernel --menuconfig once you know you missed something? Not that I want to stop you from checking, but still...

Just install CloverOS if you can't into Gentoo
Hatate will be my new wallpaper.

PS: You can of course look at the kernel config while you're emerging things, unless your machine is really fast, it's not a bad way to spend your time.

emerge hwinfo btw, it's one tool that can help figuring out what hardware you have.

I used genkernel guys. Manually configuring the kernel was too high IQ for me.

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there is nothing wrong with using genkernel during installation. you can always build a new kernel later.

>I never had to understand how computers work to such a degree, even when I program

Developers, everyone.

Just follow the installation tutorial. It's not so hard

you didn't enter a password you idiot

Can you please tell me how or where I can found out about it (yes, google banned me)?

hahaha

Just run genkernel --menuconfig all again, maybe on a newer version of the kernel sources.

You can obviously invoke genkernel with different parameters, refer to "man genkernel" or "genkernel --help". There is no particular reason not to use genkernel, it'll do config backups and stuff - so keep using it unless you really don't want to for some reason.

Gonna level with you, you are an idiot for two reasons:
1. You KNOW you're computer illiterate and you still didn't do any research on what partitioning was/
2. You listened to Jow Forums and tried to install gentoo, you do know nobody here actually uses that shit right?

Linux mint has a button during install that says "Install alongside Windows" you should have fucking installed mint and clicked that.

AHAAHAAHAHA he actually tried to install gentoo.

>2. You listened to Jow Forums and tried to install gentoo, you do know nobody here actually uses that shit right?
I use it. And quite a few other people on Jow Forums do.

It is a good distro. It just requires reading, you're doing a bottom-up install without the help variants like CloverOS or Sabayon or such or other binary distros provide.

(cont'd)
PS: Not saying it was a sensible choice for user, but honestly, Gentoo is still easier to set up than computers used to be in the DOS past.

It's very feasible if you read and do the manual carefully. user actually did get to a bootable system in the OP, he just forgot to install some utilitites. If he had not, user could presumably have just continued to install shit until he can launch sddm/lightdm and with it xorg and the dm/wm of choice.

It's at most a medium difficult thing to install, only takes a moment on slower hardware.

I won't even bother going through the thread. you clearly missed setting up the network step.
is gentoo really that hard for people? I'm not trying to run you away from gentoo in fact I'm glad more people are trying to use it but try to pay more attention to the manual next time
gentoo is a great linux distro and there are many people here that use it. the entire world doesn't revolves around you user

OP here. After rebooting from the live CD and careful reading of the handbook this time...I at least have wpa_supplicant installed; however, I don’t know how to use it. Theoretically I should be able to get Wi-Fi connectivity though so that’s nice. I recall emerging the files for plasma (a kde), but as you can see I don’t have a desktop environment. It’s been hours. I’m tired. I’ll take a break for now.

FuckGentoo

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Here’s a non lopsided picture (I hope)

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>2. You listened to Jow Forums and tried to install gentoo, you do know nobody here actually uses that shit right?
>t. has never checked the /tpg/ threads

kdm/sddm/lightdm to start the login screen (if you listened, you installed some of these)

"/etc/init.d/connman start" followed by "connmanctl", "agent on", "connect " for wlan. "rc-update add connman default" to always start the service. You could also do plain wpa_supplicant like the manual says, of course

wpa_passphrase {SSID} >/etc.wpa.conf {password}
wpa_supplicant -Dnl80211 -i{your interface} -c/etc/wpa.conf -B
use ifconfig to find out what your interface is

You really, really should have used another linux first, to get used to the filesystem, /dev, and how everything works together.

Instead, you now get to learn the wonderful magic of the linux wifi subsystem raw with no lube.

Shit. To get plasma, should I have emerge —ask kde-plasma/plasma-meta ?

I thought it was enough to eselect profile set (number)

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Windows pays shills to post here.
These are things you will hear those shills say.

Install gentoo.
Mint sucks.
Mom cancel my meetings, pacman broke xorg again.
Stallman is a commie pedo.
damn you systemd
Gnome is awesome.
I just intalled linux and * doesn't work
Why don't you use bsd?
DEs suck, just use a wm.
All distros are the same except for package managers.

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