>use React to make front end >use Node/Express to server side render your app >use Docker and containerize it >use Kubernetes and scale it on the fly >use Electron if you ever want to target desktop users
Meanwhile you C++/Java aficionados are busting your asses trying to get your GUI to look good, trying to get it to scale, and trying to make it cross platform. You learn this stack and you're hired at any start up. Face it, JavaScript has won and there is very little time until a JavaScript to Machine code compiler exists. Not to mention file sizes don't even matter nowadays since everyone has an SSD. Your days are numbered.
>writing programs that require a GUI How boring must that be.
Josiah Lewis
>js to machine code this makes no fucking sense
Austin Reed
Don't pretend people will use programs without a GUI. You forget it's 1999 + 20, and zoomers and boomers can barely install things from the app store. They can't even move their pictures to a USB, it's hilarious.
Levi Smith
Imagine being proud of being a webdev in current year and using all these harmful "technologies". I hate nu-Jow Forums
Jonathan Lee
Depends on your clientele, then. The people I work with need to be convinced harshly to touch any scientific program with a GUI. CMD only, honey.
Kevin Brooks
Except all the good programmers use typescript or coffeescript or even kotlin to produce JavaScript because it is infact that bad
Bentley Butler
They're harmful in the same way C was harmful when assembly was the main language to program. It's an improvement and you're on the wrong side of history.
At the same time, the majority of software development is to write software for humans. These tools make it faster to ship, faster to develop, faster to update, low downtime, and better user experience.
Ian Reed
I agree. JS is where the money is
Christopher Murphy
>Node
Disgusting. You can make anything work with React, Docker and Kubernetes, and you choose Node? Fucking horrific. A terrible choice.
Jackson Sanders
I ain't touching your shit with a ten foot pole nigga.
Tyler Diaz
>webdev >native pick 1
Hunter Jones
Think of electron as a compatibility layer the same way Java uses the JVM. It may not be 100% native, but it's pretty close and you wouldn't notice a difference anyways.
Zachary Sanders
They're harmful because they're bloated pieces of shit that only serve to make our computers slower. But it's OK cuz nowadays only poorfags have less than 16 GB of RAM and an i7, so we can afford to run garbage and have it sorta work.
Anthony Rodriguez
Pretty much my current job. Unfortunately I hate node. There is no reason to use javascript on the backend. ASP.NET Core and Golang kill it in performance
Tyler Parker
>Unfortunately I hate node Why exactly? It's much more efficient to write than C# thanks to first-class functions and promises, and Go is a piece of shit.
Dynamic typing is cancer. And no, Typescript is incomplete in coverage and your types are still erased after compiling to JS.
Ayden Jones
>not WASM tard
Luke Rivera
And C++ will?
Bentley Thomas
>Dynamic typing is cancer Really it's no big deal. If you're experienced, you can do fine with both dynamic and static typing. I'd rather use dynamic typing than an incomplete static system such as go's (or C#'s to an extent).
Nathaniel Butler
Dynamic typing promotes runtime errors, increases documentation burden and decreases performance. No reason to use it over static typing in any non-trivial project.
Ethan Phillips
>thanks to first-class functions and promises C# has first-class functions and it was literally why ECMAScript got async/await and arrow functions after the Delphi/C# designer copied those to TS. node.js might have some upper hand in cases where dynamic langs are the best tool but certainly not those two cases, retard.
Ethan Cox
If you love C, quickly make a crossplatform program that starts HTTP server that can receive XML, then runs quick transformation, and renders resulting text as an image and POSTs it as base64 string in JSON, using 4 parallel workers. In nodejs it will take 10 minutes and approximately 100 lines of easy code.
Zachary Evans
>#include
Sweet, now what?
Colton Nelson
>use React to make front end >use Node/Express to server side render your app why even use react if you want server side rendering?
Isaiah Cooper
I simply use Winform. Fuck Javascriptniggers.
James Morales
>How boring must that be. so this is why a simple ping app with a black gui and a single start/stop button is 2MB with a repose time long enough to sip a drink in between tests
Nolan Miller
t. self taught neet faggot who knows nothing about plt
Facts: - Everyone hates Electron - Normies are starting to realise that bundling an OS with every application of JavaScript has strangled innovation - Static typing will win - You cannot backport static typing onto a js project. By the time you rewrite everything to use static typing and borrowing semantics, you have rust.
VB6 is much superior than shitfest Javascript is. If only Netscape implemented Lua as frontend scripting language, things would be much better today.
Thomas Bailey
>Meanwhile you C++/Java aficionados are busting your asses trying to get your GUI to look good, trying to get it to scale, and trying to make it cross platform. Never heard of Qt? You only need to learn one thing.
