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Say hello to your replacement
Colton Allen
Jason Nelson
nice head unit dude
Blake Hernandez
That looks cool. What is it?
Connor Martinez
a PLC, basically an industrial Arduino board for automated equipment.
Eli Mitchell
>le high tech automation equipment
>still has a serial port like it's still the 90s
Mason Rogers
Why change what isn't broken? Not like bandwidth matters there.
Joseph Clark
getting rid of serial port for simple communcation that "just werkz" is like removing the attached wheel from the car and completely trusting bluetooth handheld controller for controlling the car manually (automatical control is by AI)
Jeremiah Rivera
USB has been standard for 23 years and even USB 1.1 is faster than most serial ports.
Landon Hernandez
it is also more complicated so more things couldgo wrong
Ethan Gutierrez
>PLC
i flip burgers
go back to your factory
Jaxon Foster
And a lot less robust for no benefit. Even 115k is unnecessary for that interface.
Christopher Howard
I work as a Control engineer and my job is to design and program PLC logic.
Yes, PLC is taking operator jobs everyday, but you dont have to worry if you have at least a high school diploma.
Nathaniel Peterson
but who gives a fuck when it means literally nothing
why do people like you obsess over such meaningless things
Benjamin Evans
>serial port
>70s tier lcd
>buttons
What year is it? im pretty sure it isnt 1990s
Carson Bailey
>what is industrial equipment
Dylan Jackson
There is an enormous amount of overhead and complexity in USB. With a serial port push bytes in one end and they come out the other.
Kevin Rogers
Try programming anything complex into one of those bastards with ladder logic and you will realize it won't replace you.
Bentley Clark
Hello based PLC
Ian Watson
A lot of the equipment these things control was built in the 90s and earlier. You don't replace a massive piece of industrial equipment every few years like you do with consumer tech. PLCs that only have USB and Ethernet ports don't sell so well.
(My company came out with a PLC that only had Ethernet and USB. We ended up selling most of them with an ugly looking USB->RS485 dongle hanging off the side)
Caleb Lewis
there is zero reason to use something like USB for basic industrial networking. even CNC machines don't operate fast enough to necessitate anything faster than communication over RS232, or a DNC controller if the project is more complex
Matthew Ross
Based on what?
Leo Nelson
Stop using 'murrikan plcs that only support ladder.
Austin Bennett
Looks like retro junk.
Who'd buy something like that?
Joseph Rodriguez
People who like money.
Ethan Peterson
>not dipping fries in oil
Chase Perez
Hello, I say it every day as it does my job while I read books.
Christian Cook
they can program themselves now wow
Hunter Lopez
RS-232 is just GOAT for this kind of stuff. Period. Look at this. You can't fucking break it, which makes it perfect for heavy-duty environment. Industrial dust ? Just blow in in it. Water, oil, grease ? Look at it not giving a fuck. Meanwhile your USB is begging for mercy. Interoperability ? You bet it does. There's no single excuse for not supporting it the way it was intended. Don't like the manufacturer's driver ? Just make yours. With USB you'll have to stick with the provided software which will only work with Windows Vista. And the guy operating it ? He has a bunch of big cables in his pockets, complete with zip-ties and ductape and you know he's not fucking around and using his cargo pants to the full extent. Now look at you. That's right, all you have is a puny USB cable and skinny jeans.
Lucas Campbell
But I'm an Mechanical Engineer with experience with automation and PLC programming.
Parker Long
who's going to program it if i'm fired
Jose Bailey
oh yeah, that thing will replace me, of course!
Ian Allen
function over style LIKE IT FUCKING SHOULD BE
Grayson Wright
>using PLCs
>unironically
Lrn2Ldr dude.
Nicholas Evans
>some retard trips on the serial cable or rips it out in a fit of potatorage (it happens)
>can't just plug it back in because lmao no hot swapping
>have to shut down production just to plug a fucking cable back in
platinum yikes
Jaxson Parker
>doesn't hotplug serial cables
>unironically
Ethan Nguyen
Can a plc cook?
can a plc clean?
can a plc raise a family?
Incels!
Jordan Perez
KYS
Hunter Morgan
With right programming, I don't see why not.
Gavin Myers
Allen-Bradley > Siemens > Schneider Modicon
Lincoln Martinez
I kinda miss working with big retarded robots. The ultimate engineering job is truly programming big hardware, then ripping out cables and plugging them back in.
Luke Collins
It's a legacy thing. Industrial automation people don't just discard the old.
That's why you can program PLCs using order list (assembly based), ladder, structured text (pascal based), Function Block Diagram and Sequential Function Charts. It's about inclusion. This way an electrician who has been in the industry for 40 years or an automation engineer fresh out of college would be able to deal with the PLC the way it's comfier for them.
Joshua Sanchez
>not using a distributed solution in 2019
Turck > all
Lincoln Miller
This is for people who don't stay on their desks all day. they are prob brutes and will be dirty when dealing with the PLC. this is not a google office machine. retarded.
do you want industry plants to stop every time a PLC gets its glass touchscreen cracked because it fell when someone was doing some maintenance work?
Parker Gomez
Less is more.
Ian Russell
this, just fucking use IP already
Anthony Sanders
probably uses alkali batteries
Landon Parker
>You can't fucking break it
*bends one of your pins
now what the fuck are you going to do nigger
William Bennett
> pockets full of keks
Anthony Turner
>all the zoomers complaining because of the serial port
The absolute state of this board.
Aaron Myers
half of it is bait
the other half is genuinely misinformed retards who probably left /pcbg/ for the first time today
Grayson Cooper
don't make me laugh pls. Allen Bradley better than siemens, WTF
Charles Stewart
Bend it back. Or if it's completely fucking broken swap the port out for a new one since it's on a module precisely because shit happens on the shop floor.