Would you buy the upcoming AMD ThinkPads?

>8 cores 7nm + navi chiplet 2048 sp + hbm2
One can only dream

>wanting a 125W or more APU in a laptop
Kek ok. 7nm is not magic, it still needs power.

no because im not a cuck

> soldered RAM

Wtf? There's an A series already. What do you mean? I just got a Raven Ridge 14 inch ThinkPad in December.

News story links pls

notebookcheck.net/ThinkPad-Roadmap-Chinese-leak-reveals-Lenovo-s-release-plans-for-2019-including-new-ThinkPad-X390-T495s.400896.0.html

Not really, I'm not looking for a laptop.

I wouldn't buy a modern thinkpad until they repair the design problems.

I wanted to buy even the current ones but the keyboards look like shit

Already do, it's pretty desu.

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AMD chips have backdoors baked into the silicon just like Intel you fucking retard

If they come in x1 form factor probably.

If it had proper screen resolution that wasn’t 2007-tier or touch-meme enabled, yes.

No, x86 is dead.

Source: your ass.
It's not guilty until proven innocent, it's innocent until proven guilty

GOOD GOYIM

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Modern thinkpads are just objectively worse than the old ones. All the "upgrades" done to the design are just removing features.

not with that keyboard no

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Platform_Security_Processor
Seriously, why are you pretending to care about security when you don't know the first thing about it? All of x86 is compromised.

I would if they had a proper keyboard layout.
I guess its time to replace my T410 anyway since it started to coilwhile really hard and while i could care less about it it bothers people around me.

I don't like the look of those hinges at all though.
And i hope the case doesn't melt like it does with the 275/475.

do they have cd drives?

depends on the battery. if they can hold 10h for shitposting i'm game.

No. Lenovo still gimps AMD thinkPads compared to their Windows counterparts.

>AMD
>compared to Windows
Are you okay user?

fuck i meant *intel*

i should really go to bed mayne.

Yes, because I got cucked by Intel when they cancelled Quark.

Whole product had to be thrown in the trash and redesigned around STM32H7.

I'm not going to buy anything from those faggots ever again.

the FX days are over pajeet, keep shilling for intel and keep buying their 200w space heaters

This is the sad truth. I a totally up for an AMD/ Vega Thinkpad but they just don't apply the same engineering mentality. Cheaper everything seems to be their thought process like man companies when AMD is involved. Just look at motherboard quality and features for AMD processors.

I considered getting one, but my T530 is still going strong.

It's almost as if their intel masters wouldn't allow them to make a ThinkPad that would be up to par on their intel equivalents...

I wouldn't mind so much if Intel would pull their heads out of their asses and develop something worthwhile. I am not very optimistic about Intel Xe.

My shintel 9900k runs plenty cool when I'm running it at 800MHz too, retard.

PSP is a glorified Netflix content protector and IP harvestor... it doesn't do shit.

It's literally AMD's ME, you retarded shill.

libreboot.org/faq.html#amd
fuck off gamer drone

((( intel inside )))

>libreboot.org/faq.html#amd
>What can I use, then?
> Libreboot has support for fam15h AMD hardware (~2012 gen) and some older Intel platforms like Napa, Montevina, Eagle Lake, Lakeport (2004-2006). We also have support for some ARM chipsets (rk3288). On the Intel side, we’re also interested in some of the chipsets that use Atom CPUs (rebranded from older chipsets, mostly using ich7-based southbridges).

it literally is the same situation as intel. only older chips pass their bar.

this, i only use chinese chips when i'm in the west

>moving the goalposts

not until 7nm and they make the X-series AMD

I would buy one of these if it had a ethernet port.

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Which models? OP said "upcoming." Which are you referring to? Need a response on this, as I want one now after reading it.

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I have a W520 with coil whine. However, the UltraBay hard drive sort of drowns it out with white noise, so I never really notice it. Try buying one of those chink SATA/Ultrabay adapters and throw an old hard drive in it to mask the coil whine.

holy fuck these are cheap and pack some serious fuckin power. Vega 3 graphics??? you could do some light gaming on that thing.

Put the TP25 keyboard on it and I'll buy a dozen for my employees and I. Those who didn't manage to get one are still on their X220s and T420s. Nobody likes that chicklet trash.

This is why everyone is calling you a retarded sheep, because AMD and Intel are both two sides of the same shitty insecure coin.

You can shut off the PSP from what I understand.

listen closely, anons. this is how to gripe

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I wouldn't buy Thinkpad.
I will wait for Acer with AMD.

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You obviously don't understand

Aren't AMD mobile CPUs complete shit in terms of battery life?

>would I buy a AMD laptop
Yes.
>will I buy this one
Probably not, I have a laptop that's fine.
>would I buy a linux ThinkPad
If I was buying a ThinkPad and the Linux one was cheaper, yes. I just install windows after I get it. Haha, protip I would.

Vega 3 sucks for gaming though, Vega 8 is the good one.

There are plenty of non-touch models with FHD, 2k and 4k screens.

Ah yeah Acer, the ones that use 18650 batteries literally taped together inside the case and full plastic hinges for huge screens.

Ryzen its ok, anything before Ryzen was horrible when it came to temperatures, efficiency and performance.

so show me you can't...

>admitting you're so stuypid that Windoze is the only OS you can figure out how to make go

Hinges are metal though.
At least they don't rip plastic, unlike modern thinkpads.

I had Phenom II laptop. It was better than Core2Quad shit in terms of TDP.

They are going to release the T495, T495s and X295 this year, all AMD based but within the premium series. Not 7nm though.

then don't buy it holy shit. and continue to give intel market share so they have no threat of a competitor making the first step to fix these issues.

dumbass

P55 when?

Delidd this

Have sex.

He/you was talking about removable microphone+camera, etc. for privacy/security. What specifically talks about this as a feature of the new AMD ones? Or was he/you talking about manually removing them in a much harder way?

I meant I would manually just rip them out.

Oh okay, based still.

Got my mom one of last years' ryzen ideapads, it's a good machine - might get this years for myself

I have an almost dead T410 right now and was looking to upgrade in the next year. I've looked at some modern thinkpads and they feel like trash so I thought about switching to a different brand. My mother has a dell laptop with a trackpoint (I will not buy a laptop without one) that seems ok but I was wondering if they were better than modern thinkpads.

That's what I thought. You can disable PSP in BIOS or whatever emulates it now on EFI.

Unless you have really advanced adversaries it probably doesn't matter that much, but because its closed source it would be impossible to verify that it is actually off. but if you're reasonably good at securing a device this sort of stuff is unlikely to have any real consequence.

Hell yeah, fuck Intel

Already have a x250 (broadwell dual core) and a company-provided dell latitude (avec 8650U), that are probably more than enough for my mobile needs, but I probably would if I needed a new laptop.

if you can coreboot them and they bring back the old keyboard and x220 form factor yes. either fuck nupads

Why are AMD cock suckers so illiterate? It doesn't matter which one you buy when it comes to security, they are both broken and are taking no steps to rectify the situation. Buying a backdoored shitty chip from one jewish company isn't going to prompt the other jewish company to remove the backdoors from their chip. Meanwhile you're buying their garbage and pretending it's secure for no other reason than having a different logo.

> NATION STATE ACTORS ARE COMING FOR MY KEK PORN
this is you.

I would buy a T420 with a Ryzen 3000 APU in it

Nope. That's precisely why I'm making fun of in the first place.

WHY DOES EVERY FUCKING RYZEN LAPTOP ONLY HAVE A 3 CELL 45W BATTERY?

Did intel pay off laptop manufacturers to never give AMD anything bigger?

>Nope. That's precisely why I'm making fun of (You) in the first place.

The value of attacks against computers become more expensive the more variations an attacker has to account for. If you don't agree with that statement and its value then I'm not sure what to tell you. You need to take some basic statistics to understand why that is.

I'm just not sure if any of it matters considering either chip has a literal undocumented proprietary back door baked in to the silicon that can't be turned off in a trustworthy manner. Nobody who takes secure/free computing seriously should buy Intel or AMD. Put the money toward a Blackbird instead and purchase an older system that isn't backdoored and can be hung off of it remotely for more intensive tasks.

Running an A6-9225 econobox. I can confirm.

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> use old hardware.
okay as if you know what my use case is and know if that is even a valid option?

not to mention you are assuming a particular type of attacker.

that's not how security or risk works. You can backdoor anything with physical access but do YOU make sure to protect against supply chain attacks? Are you inspecting your motherboard with an xray to ensure your computer is uncompromised? Do you have all of the schematics and knowledge to make that validation in the first place?

who are you protecting yourself against here? security isn't binary, its an assessment based on many factors. and its possible to reduce risk for different attackers with different methods. "USE AN OLD COMPUTER" is a really stupid answer if I'm going to rip out the wifi card and do offline signing with with higher bits and maybe AMD doesn't make an impact on that but it takes a lot off the price anyways.

But If I know your organization all uses intel I'm just going to write an ME exploit if I have the resources and gain access to everything, why not add some AMD servers to do reproducible builds and ensure you're not infecting your software supply chain due to a single attack? There's at least 10 more examples like that I could probably come up with, "use an old computer" is a really fucking stupid answer. At least suggest a power9 or something.

>Spreading lies by talking like they are both equally vulnerable.

One is FAR FAR worse than the other.

>thinkpad
Lmao trash when ibm made them. Its even chinkier worse shit now
>amd
HAHAHAHAHA

apparently blackbird is one of the power9 I actually didn't know one of them was called this. I've already looked at those but they're super expensive.

Buy a simple aftermarket heatsink?
>Single channel APU
>15W but runs at 80°C
What the fuck is this CPU.

IF I was to buy a laptop - hell yeah

So basically, because someone can just bug your shit in transit it's alright to have a big proprietary blob of shit in your processor? Gotcha, that honestly makes your pursuit for a secure mobile kiddie porn machine sound even dumber, but go ahead and shit out some more buzzwords, bikeshedding and mental gymnastics to make yourself feel like it isn't. You don't have to use an old computer as your remote client, you can use something newer too as long as it's open, or you could just not use a remote client at all.
One fence is missing ten boards, the other only five. Both are shitty fences that don't do their job of keeping things secure. Apparently the one missing five is better because it has a different multibillion dollar company's logo on it.
Of course, because you're just a moron pretending to care about security to look fashionable. We can't assume you've actually done your homework or intend to make any actual sacrifices to get there.