Daily reminder: DO NOT, i repeat, DO NOT BUY DDR4 ram, PCIe 4.0 gpu or a new boards

It's funny how Jow Forums always thinks it's about the throughput, while increasing the bandwidth is most definitely about reducing the latency.
This is why in the future, dedicated GPUs will die, because everything is starving for data because of the long distance between CPU and GPU.

t. Computer engineer

If the case was shorting the main slot, you would know. Trust me on that.

Hell, the latest iGPUs on those Zen/Zen+ APUs already outperform my 4 year old mid range card.

You sound like a shill trying to stop me from upgrading to zen 2.

Enough power for what? Maybe for spreadsheets and and last year 1080p games but that's it.

PCIe 5.0 is the brand new tech, 4 is just a stop gap.

There won't be a desktop DDR5 platform until late 2020 at the earliest, and it'll likely be HEDT even then. Fuck off, retard.

optical link is the future
do not buy this coper JEWish shit

>higher resolutions require more CPU power
Go back to /v/ you retarded piece of shit.

>mfw people still fall for the cpu meme
i have a i7-2600k with a 1070ti and literally any game works flawlessly

But my board is already DDR4 has been for a couple of years what do then? Just keep listening to yolandi's sexy voice? Or will ddr5 not suffer from needing to overclock just to get the speed you paid for?

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>i will cheat on you
seriously, why would a woman wear such a shirt?

>Just keep listening to yolandi's sexy voice?
Yes

>Enough power for what?
Back to /v/ fucking retard

As a warning? To ward off relationship faggots? Relationships are for losers just fuck and have fun

that doesn't make sense since claiming that "she will cheat on you" would mean she is willing to go into a relationship first, otherwise there can't be any cheating

That's the point she is saying not to get attached are you retarded?

no, she is not saying not to get attached, she is saying she will cheat on you, which means that she would have to get into a relationship first, making your explanation invalid, you are the retard here

OP brings up a good point. A lot of us didn't bother with DDR4. I don't think I will get this ram, wanted a ryzen desktop but my haswell i5 isn't even being pushed. I might get a used desktop that comes with ram but I don't see how ram has even improved my computer, aside from having more ram, I'd rather have slower but more ram any day.

Has anyone here gone from DDR2 to DDR4? Is this common or is it just this generation?

Yes she is it's a warning to idiots in a club looking for a relationship she doesn't want that she just wants to have fun
BTW if you want a relationship don't look in clubs they are not the right place to find loyal people

A U T I S M

Even more reason to not buy intel. I'm not playing the waiting game anymore.
>Next gen will fix everything
>Shills making you regret upgrading each time

spot an incel

/thread

>aside from having more ram, I'd rather have slower but more ram any day.
This is what brainlets think, ram speed matters and sometimes quite a lot. Yes, on intel too.

>my haswell i5 isn't even being pushed.
[doubt]
They're usually 100% on all cores and stuttering in gaymes. For productivity they're just bad.

It's just another signal to make herself unattractive, together with the feminist hair and wearing no pants(obvious slut) she's showing that she has severe mental/self worth issues.

you forgot to tell them you run low-med settings on 1080p

Wow way to incel bro I bet you can't even have a one night stand without thinking it has to lead somewhere

How much did DDR4 increase performance, for example in gaming? As far as I know Skylake can use both, so was there any difference?

you know that it's the gpu that handles the graphics you dumb nigger?

You have made yourself look ever more foolish. Congratulations.

>DDR6 - PCIe 6.0 is literally around the corner
DO NOT, i repeat, DO NOT BUY DDR5 ram, PCIe 5.0

Every time is the same waiting game. Just get what you need. Last tiem we waited 3 years for "new" gpus that didn't offer any substantial performance for the same price.

Name when it matters aside from the iGPU of the APUs of the DDR4 ram I won't buy.

>Games are only graphics and no other processing needs to happen ~ Jow Forums 2019

it's not only graphics but you're dumb enough to imply that you need a i9-9900k to play 2019 games

Literally no one said that you hyperbolic asshole

Post your CPU usage and 1% lows during a session of FarCry 5 or AC Odyssey at high or above settings.

No self respecting man would even think of having a relationshit with her. And you'd need to paperbag her for that ons

>Paper bag her
Nah she is cute as fuck to me I wouldn't need any encouragement at all

memelennials are permanently stuck in post-post-post-pre-post ironic hell and can't be genuine and sincere for 5 fucking seconds to save their WORTHLESS LIVES

t.

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Stupid analogy

DDR5/PCIE5 are almost here, wheres DDR6 is 7 years away if not more according to SK hynix's forecast, and this is just for developing, not for release.
As for PCIe 6.0, there is no word yet for such specification in the horizon.

I've been putting off buying new parts since 2015 you fuck, if I wait for every new standard to become /the/ standard, I'll never upgrade.

> I don't see how ram has even improved my computer, aside from having more ram, I'd rather have slower but more ram any day.
If you care about
>Faster video editing rendering times
>Multitasking (example having Adobe premiere rendering while using Photoshop for photo editing and having your browser open would work in 16gb of ram)
>Helps FPS, and prevents choking on performance.

Then do slight upgrades and wait a few more years.
>Had 760 GTX for the longest time.
>Upgraded to 1050 TI for cheap
>Decided on SSD 1tb for cheap
It may last me 2 years but by then it will already be time to do a huge upgrade.

brainlet detected

>Just wait a few more months
>Noo just a few more
>Just wait a bit more
Fuck that I want technology and I want it now

Almost here means first half of 2021 for us normies.

Saying wait for DDR5 is like saying wait for RTX 4080 Ti.

It won't be mainstream or affordable until fall 2020 or even mid 2021, hell I wouldn't be surprised if it fakes even longer.

3200mhz is the sweet spot.

The test is pointless since it just changes the RAM frequencies and keeps timings at the completely loose ones for the 4000MHz profile.

>Higher versions of PCIe will be important for x1-x4 bus devices
Perhaps, depending on what the future brings in terms of actual lanes. As an example, my X470 board's got 3 x16 slots and 3 x1 slots. If you populate the first two x16 slots you get x8 on each. The last x16 slot can do PCI 2.0 x4 but only if none of the x1 slots are populated, it runs at x1 if any of them are.

PCIe 4 and 5 would obviously help if you're trying to run something like 2x2080TI's on a board which gives each x8 (you need a graphics card like that to starve PCIe 3 x8, btw, for most GPUs it's enough). But.. IF we were to have PCIe 3 motherboards with 3 x16 slots that could actually be used for 3 x16 the story changes and PCIe would be just fine. It's not like PCIe 5 would be helpful if you got one slot that could do x4.

optical link is the future
do not buy this coper JEWish shit

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daily reminder that none of that matter because power9 and risc-v is the future.

What's the point? Anymore only two devices really use dedicated ports; Graphics and Networking. If you don't game, well your doing fine with whatever solution your using now.

Networking, I don't see 10GB Ethernet coming to the consumer level anytime soon (as in hey look at all that 10GB networking kits at walmart). Even if it did, I'm sure they'd make a PCI-E x1 card just due to the shear amount of those boards with that slot in use.

So again what's the point?

That's not an entirely bad idea considering that RTX 4080 Ti would be the only gpu capable to run Ray-tracing games at a medium-high settings .

>muh games

i wont be suprised if amd change the socket saying
"we will change the socket so that you can have a future compartibility"

She will cheat on you in a game of counter strike, damn wall hackers

AMD said the AM4 socket will last till 2020. It's likely to get Ryzen 4000 any no more.

This user gets it.

>particularly on platforms starved for PCIe lanes

A socket change a year keeps the goyim in fear.

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>So again what's the point?
SSDs.
Currently on PCIe 3.0 the NVMe SSDs generally take 4 lanes to get around 3GB/s rates. With PCIe 4.0 that could be done in 2 lanes. Four SSDs now take the same number of lanes as two used to. PCIe 5.0 that becomes 1 lane, four SSDs for each one on 3.0.

For PCIe starved systems (Intel), this is kinda important. You can move to a lot of very high speed drives and still have lanes left over. For less starved systems you can manage the same system with a lower PCIe version.

i still use ddr3, i5-3XXX, etc. and all the newest games run perfectly in 1440p. its actually incredible how little a difference cpus and ram make in gaming these days. devil may cry 5 looks like a next gen game on my rig and performs insanely well.

yes, that's what he was talking about

devil may cry can run 4k on my rig whereas other new games don't come close to that. I was surprised too. It's very easy to run because of how close up everything is + poor graphics on most things other than character models.

>just wait forever

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What's the point of PCIe 5.0 if 4.0 isn't anywhere near being saturated by current devices? Not even the top graphics cards saturate the bandwith significantly.

So you can run a couple of nvme drives and a 10gbit ethernet card

Phenom II x4 955
Kingston DDR3 32GB
Samsung SSD Sata III 250GB
Windows 7 Ultimate

Runs smooth as a babies ass. I don't play new games so why would I need to "upgrade" anything. Been solid stable since I built it, no re-installs or anything like that.

now THAT'S a system *sip*

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10GB home networking won't be happening anytime soon. Not till the day they push 1GB internet to everyone and it don't cost the consumer $100 to "upgrade" to it.

Then it'll be like "omg all my devices are being held back by my GB lan"

Just use a gbit lan

10

If you need that, you shouldn't need some stupid autistic faggot shill on four channel to give you advices.

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Ironically by the time this does happen I won't need it cause my mass torrenting days are over with.

When you have all your favorite shows/films/music and lots of porn and e-books you kinda don't need to use as much bandwidth anymore

Whatever. Still running DDR2 and can run any games I want easily - why I would bother?

Get a Phenom II X6 ASAP
Thank me later

So that when cheap $40 SBCs with 2 pcie 5.0 lanes (instead of current 2 pcie 3.0 lanes) happen you can make a hat which hangs 16 sata connections off it. You then use 2.5" 12.5mm thick spinning rust drives so that your NAS overall is the size of 4 3.5" drives with a little board on top and two power bricks hanging off

>FarCry 5
>AC Odyssey
imagine playing gaymes released in the last 3 years.

>imagine playing gaymes released in the last 11 years.
FTFY - anything past MGS4 is shit

>an run any games I want easily
@640x480

No, 1360x768 - I use a 32" HDTV for games
No game can make it run lower than 45FPS including GTA V. Will upgrade to a G41 motherboard soon for DDR3

>10GB home networking won't be happening anytime soon
sadly true
consumers will just use whatever shit router their ISP gives them
as long as it doesnt feel like shit DSL and they have signal in their entire house, they wont care

test

>cheap $40 SBCs with ... 2 pcie 3.0 lanes
do these exist?

>DDR5
>PCIe 5.0
>10 nm
>Intel

I wouldn't count on that.

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>It's likely to get Ryzen 4000 any no more.
English motherfucker, do you speak it?

>PCIe 5.0 is the brand new tech, 4 is just a stop gap.

PCIe 5.0 is a stop gap, CXL and CCIX are the real new tech.
Despite that, PCIe 4.0 will support 100 Gb x8 cards, and dual-port 100 Gb or single-port 200 Gb in x16, which is mostly what data center customers want right now.
400 Gb will need 112+ Gb serdes to mature/come way down in price before it can stand a chance of significant uptake in the market.