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Planes are technology
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youtube.com/watch?v=Hku8TH9NKfw
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Is there a crawlway between the two fuselages?

What's the point of having two cockpits?

you're a big guy

youtu.be/1riTvtIIQ7U?t=107

>one pilot wants to turn right
>one pilot wants to turn left
>aircraft tears itself apart

Bravo

...

>build this
>instead of adding another 10 tons of fuel to your rocket

More fuel also means less thrust-to-weight ratio, which is critical when taking off

>Alright bob, let's take a left
>Roger that, jim
>NO BOB, NOT THAT LEFT, YOUR OTHER LEFT
>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

terrorist never know which is the real cockpit and which is the dummy cockpit

That's Capitalism for you. Stupid, to the core

>linking to the verge
no thanks

More fuel increases delta-v capability, which is critical when reaching orbits.

It's that or a joint in the wing

kek

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Launching from above most of the atmosphere also increases delta-v by greatly reducing losses from drag, also means no cancelling launches because of weather if you're above it.

It's that or being carried on your big momma's back

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>(You) verses the guy she tells you not to worry about:

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Oh space shuttle. What a waste of money. Would have gotten more launches, fewer deaths, and more science done if they just stuck to rockets. The way god intended.

You win this battle, planefag. Enjoy it thoroughly.

In this case I'd rather be the lightning as it'll rip that giant bird out of the sky quickly.

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aren't planes designed to take a bolt and be fine?

This plase looks a lot like the p-38 Lightning from the thumbnail. It's actually the double mustang, an odd plane really. Either way, the guns on those would rip apart the giant new plane.

this plane represents america
fight me /g

What an awkward and unpleasant movie.

Normal people put 2 wings on one plane.
Look at this retard, he put 2 planes on one wing.

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>not understanding Tsiolkovsky rocket equation

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Woah...

Considering one has guns and the other is a cargo drone, that's like being in a relatio ship with a woman who owns two foot whale dildos

A plane divided cannot fly.

People are stupid.
Capitalism is only a game we invented to trick people into being more productive.

What increase in payload to low earth orbit is predicted for this anyway?

>only a game we invented to trick people into being more productive

Sounds more like communism.

Communism try to ask people to be more productive, and when it fails, they bring the guns.
Capitalism says "if you work harder, you will be the king!"

I refuse to believe this post was made unironiclly
Just in case it was
Your a fucking brainlet
The whole point of this airplane is the fact it will be cheaper over time to use the plane than it would to build a big cumbersome first stage every time
Which the wealth of competition in commercial space flight you have to push prices lower to remain attractive and the easiest way to do that is to make the spacecraft as reusable as possible

But they don't make you king unless you're a black tranny

>Stratolaunch

Top meme, if you aren't building heavy lift reusables you might as well not bother

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Ideally, NO ONE gets to be the king.
But everyone think they will, so they work hard for it.

The payload capacity of this plane is a joke, get the fuck out of here.

>build a big cumbersome first stage every time
>Implying

That monstrosity is going to be hellishly expensive to run and doesn't even remotely replace the capacity of a proper first stage in terms of speed or altitude.

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>proper first stage: $10m+
>one flight of stratolaunch:

The first 3 kilometers have the majority of air resistance that a rocket needs to overcome.

Having said that... there's no purpose for this, just use a landing first stage Jesus Christ investors are retarded.

What you faggots don't realize is the fact there is a huge demand for cheap access to space for small satellites where a huge rocket like the falcon doesn't make sense
forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2018/11/21/pint-sized-space-race-miniature-rockets-are-starting-to-crowd-launch-pads/
Not everything is about max tonnage to LEO

>He neglected to amortize the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars to build a stratolaunch plane over its limited number of flights
>He neglected to mention it needs a 40 million dollar second stage to deliver 6 tonnes to LEO vs 15 tonnes for a F9

>Implying this is the role that Stratolaunch could ever possibly fulfill
>Implying they wouldn't just buy a cheap as shit electron ride instead

Moron detected.

Huge rockets like the falcon are just buses for a bunch of small satellites to rideshare up into space.
Cubesats were invented for a reason

That is fine if you don't really give a damn about the end orbit but for shit other than cubesats you might want to have your own planned orbit

Using a fuckhuge rocket to launch a small satellite is retarded. Trying to miniaturize the rocket while still launching it from the ground won't work because a smaller rocket will have a higher surface-to-volume ratio so a higher percentage of the fuel will be wasted on just beating air resistance. Using a plane to efficiently lift the rocket above the densest part of the atmosphere makes sense.

Yeah, just wait until a hundred other people decide to launch their shitboxes into the same orbit.

Reusable rockets are the future, not this crap

youtube.com/watch?v=Hku8TH9NKfw

looks dam strange

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Rail gun launches are the future, unless they get space elevators up.

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This easily saves hundreds of tonnes of fuel, all of the energy is used getting through the thick atmosphere down low.
SSTO Masterrace

DAMN

For you

more fuel
bigger rocket
more thrst to weight to reach certain orbits
you cant just slap fuel and call it the day

Not that big really, just not swept wings

>Ask brother if he would fly in this
>says Shut up and keeps talking

>one less plane required for 911

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you don't even need planes for that. remember the 3rd tower was never hit by anything but still """""colapsed"""""

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Because it is far too large for a single neural net to control. It is much easier for two pilots to sync neural nets and each take part of the load. They had too many pilots have aneurisms during the initial testing of a plane that size.

Fuck off Guillermo

Not how it works. The energy spent "flying through the thick atmosphere" is negligible part of the effort to reach orbit. Hence rocket pads not being placed on tall mountains.

There are no meaningful gains in air launch. It just puts hard limit how big you can go, bumps the bill massively, and makes sure a single "pad" failure puts an end to the entire thing.

Relying on something like this instead of designing a much cheaper and more capable normal rocket is a dead end.

>spacenews.com/stratolaunch-founder-paul-allen-dies/

You still need the planes loaded with fuel in order to set off the thermite, which you need so that you can set off the collapse using hi explosives without a conspicuous outward explosion. It is making it look like the fire alone did everything that gives you the justification for criminal acts against your own people.

However, they've already admitted that WTC7 was demolished although they claim it was because it was damaged by the collapse of the first two towers.

they are sticking to rockets, retard. Jet engines don't get you out of the atmosphere.

I'm digging the Ace Combat vibes coming from that pic

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it's the jian bird
we darling in the franxx now

he will always be remembered as that guy who wasn't an asshole

>The energy spent "flying through the thick atmosphere" is negligible part of the effort to reach orbit.

Fucking retard

Reusable first stages are better than aircraft in almost very way performance-wise. More payload for a second stage, they release the upper stage in vacuum so that it only needs vac optimized engines, they give more delta-v, and they can provide a lofted trajectory if the upper stage has a low thrust to weight ratio.

The main advantages of an aircraft as a first stage would be equatorial launch from a non-equatorial launch site, and being able to work from a populated zone without major noise complaints. In every other aspect VTVL first stage is a better approach

>woah easy fella
why must people like this be so damn fucking cringe. Like just fucking say damn like normal people, quite acting out on your weird plane fetish

Cheap and quick to build dedicated small sat launchers are the future for the cubesat and nanosat industry. Rocketlab, vectorspace and Firefly are gonna be the poor man's launch provider and they're gonna make Bank doing it

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what-if.xkcd.com/58/

It looks so bad structurally I don't want it to exist.

At least these have a smaller bridge, and diameter overall. These look like they'd work fairly well in theory.

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This

>Experiences unexpected crosswinds once
>Eats shit

Are americans physically incapable of not saying holy crap and oh my gosh every 5 seconds when something remotely unusual happens?

So they could bring down two towers at the same time.

What is this abomination

And what no one here has mentioned is literally ANY numbers that would put this to rest.

The vast majority of energy spent by rockets is simply to get up to orbital speed. But how much of THAT energy is spent counteracting drag, and how much is spent imparting kinetic energy to the payload? Is it 1% drag, 99% KE? Is it 50/50? Is it 85% drag, 15% KE?

Unless we can get some actual numbers here, this argument is pointless. I'm willing to bet, though, that all these people (who are far better educated than anyone on Jow Forums) trying to make a launch system based on getting started with a plane, were probably aware of and figured out how much energy is spent on drag, how much on KE, and how much would be saved by launching from a plane. Or maybe they're all fucking idiots and they didn't think of this. Maybe that happened.

Called an "ekranoplane". They utilize the ground effect which massively increases lift when close to the ground, allowing for much smaller wings and (if I remember right) pretty big efficiency gains.

Not 100% positive on the efficiency difference. I'm sure the wikipedia article has info

>We had the peivelage of watching history happen in front of our eyes!!! It was incredible...please forgive my excited coments lol
Please forgive.

why americans are so emotional?

Please forgive.

it's so cute! like two planes holding their hands

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and apologetic

Please.

I'm going to guess it's a combination of redundancy and wanting to keep weight exactly equal between each fuselage.

>This plane will support a 150 000 ton rocket from its center wing

>xkcd
Get that reddit-tier shit out of here, please.

goddammit you reminded me that that movie was the only one our family had on vhs when i was a kid
what a piece of shit that was

My guess is 80% drag 10% gravity and 10% speed. Once you are out of the air its easy lol you don't need that much push to fly away in space forever.

Many fighter planes often jump out of the atmopshere and reach space.

So do some balloons.

You literally don't need dangerous explosion-prone rockets to do it.

arkbird when?

>falling for the left and right meme
>not realizing they function as football teams which means the owners win regardless of the outcome

The crew is all in the right cockpit, left is empty and unpressurized.

Less impressive than the A380 honestly.