Will post AMD Navi info in 10 minutes

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AMD Navi Info

Why dont we get card art like this anymore

It's over hyped and will under deliver.

Draw Stream Binning Rasterizer will be marketed as "Next Gen"
Navi is NGG
L1 cache has been doubled (32kB)
L2 is 3076kB
still 256 bus
410GB/s memory bandwidth

Boosts over 1.8GHz
performance is already between Vega 56 and 1080
150W TDP

259$ for the full chip reference design cards

Source?

It's a LARPing thread m8

I work at AMD

Post proof or you're gay

It's all pretty vague tho... A lot of people have already theorized that kinda stuff

Take screenshot and compare it with the released product, i'm not theorizing.

>thinking im gonna risk my job

> performance is already between Vega 56 and 1080
> 259$ for the full chip reference design cards
So not a breakthrough, which makes it believable.

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So a downclocked version of this is what's hitting next gen console then?

I paid $350 for a 2060.... So I could of spent almost $100 less and get like 15% better performance

A 2060 is usually at or above a 1080. This sounds more like it'd fall between a 1660Ti and a 2060 for $20 cheaper than the 1660Ti.

Still a good value proposition but hardly earth shattering.

The consoles APU were leaked today on twitter. 8 zen core 1.6GHz (not sure if SMT) and Navi 10 at 1.8GHz.

Here have a nude pic of shannon morse as a moral booster

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How much VRAM will it have?

are you the DV engineer user?

Based.

hell yeah

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Why are you spamming this thot everywhere?

Do we not have mods?

secret info: it's gonna suck

$250 and it doesn't even match the 1080 which is 3 years old? I am a Ryzen fan but this, if it is true, really isn't that big of a deal. I already have a RX 580 and don't really see what you're reporting as a compelling reason to upgrade. What's is AMD thinking here?

You mean a few days ago right?

I don't know man, I lost track of time a few years ago.

Are these real?

As real as the leaks ITT

How did he know??

Cow tits with stretch marks. I don't think I'll ever go back to white womens

Good for you, Tyrone

Maybe they're trying to catch people sitting on R9 200/300 cards? I'd consider it even though I have two R9 390's.

please stop lying. the rtx 2070 is at or slight above a 1080. the 2060 is solidly under the 1080 outside of RTX ON with the new drivers. the 2060 is literately a carbon copy of the 1070 ti and before you go full retard and say the 1070 ti matches the 1080 please do humanity a favor and gas yourself before you do. yes its close, but don't fucking lie to people about it being as fast or faster when the fucking 2070 is as fast and faster than the 1080. no way in fucking hell will a 1920 cuda core matching a 2070 with 2304 cuda cores with the same fucking clock rates and frequency head room.

AMD is for poorfags

>r9 390
>2
2014 called with the 980 being a worth while upgrade just from pure power consumption alone. everything above a 1060 was a worth while upgrade from pascal. and now with turing again everything even a 1660 ti would be a worth while upgrade. 390 was pure horseshit. don't talk to me about its performance when its power consumption was brain dead retarded. all you proved by buying two of those outrageously shitty cards was how much you enjoy being kicked in the balls 24/7 while have your duck slowly mutilated you sadistic fuck.

so its medicocre shit and not worth any wait
and wont have hbm and thus will lose to vega in higher res

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Fuck you bitch. The R9 390 is legendary.

AMD said multiple times that this year's Navi will be mid range, the heavy Navi is next year. You won't see anything stronger than Radeon VII until 2020 (other than Navi crossfire maybe?)

I'm not getting cucked by nvidia a second time and why the fuck do I care about power consumption anyway? It's cheap in my country. What I paid for the first 390 would have only gotten me a 1060 3GB and the second one cost fuck all and I mainly got it because two look good in my case. Fuck nvidia's pricing, the cars are no where near worth that much.

>I mainly got it because two look good in my case.
Imagine buying a second graphics card for this reason.

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I just gave up waiting, I need high-end for VR and 4k bought a 1080ti used so it seems I'll be waiting quite a bit more until they release anything significantly better than that

If all I get are fucking blower cards for navi, I'm going to cut a bitch.

Or you could get a job.

>3076 instead of 3072
wrong. also shouldn't it be 2048KB or 4096KB with 256bit bus?
>410GB/s
why not 416GB/s(13000MHz)? do you mean 409.6GB/s(12800MHz)?

I love tech so much but I do not know what i'd utilize it with new one upgrading of my Athlon 2 and 4670

>Draw Stream Binning Rasterizer

what happened to it in Vega? last time I read it was disabled cause of drivers

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>between Vega 56 and 1080
lol there are games now that the 56 even beats a 1080

More interested in Zen 2 Tbh

how's that the memory bandwidth is half of R VII?

>get fired for us random plebs

Sir, you can not stop here. You must drop all images now.

I just want rtx2060/gtx1080/vega64 levels of performance for 240-270$ and at least 8 gb of vram. I actually returned a 2060 after testing it for a few days because 6gb is almost not enough for that level of performance and I like to keep my cards for 2-3 years and then move them to my htpc and use them there for another 2-3 years

>I like to keep my cards for 2-3 years and then move them to my htpc and use them there for another 2-3 years
In the last 3 years, in which I entered into PC building and gaming, I have used the following cards:
>integrated graphics on a 2012 mac mini
>GTX 745 (crappy OEM part)
>1050ti
>1070ti
>RX 580 (what I currently have)

Based on that experience I came to the following conclusions: most of the desire surrounding graphics cards is built up hype without any substance. Sure, you need a card that can run the games you want to play, but running them on Ultra at 4k supersampling isn't necessary to enjoy yourself. Most mainstream games are made to work on high/medium with a 1050ti-tier card at 1080p. Indie games have even lower requirements. Also, you can save money in the long run by buying in the middle of the market, which in 2 or 3 (max) generations is the same as last gen's "high end." For example, a 1050ti and a 2060, bought new at MSRP, would have cost $500. That's what a 1070 ti cost at the time it came out. But by buying the mid market you can sell the old card at a pretty decent margin and recoup some of what you lost while still being able to play all the games you want.

tl;dr: don't fall for the high end GPU meme. You can still enjoy playing the occasional game, even most triple A games, with affordable cards and save lots of money.

> don't fall for the high end GPU meme. You can still enjoy playing the occasional game, even most triple A games, with affordable cards and save lots of money
> In the last 3 years, in which I entered into PC building and gaming
You really have no idea. The point of a high-end GPU is to last. 290X from 2014 is still going strong, as well as RX480. Midrange will last about three years, whereas high-end will stay relevant for five years and beyond.

Ok? I've been buying cards since before the x1900 xtx era. I bought the gtx 970 I'm using right now 3 years ago for 220€~ and I was planning to change it because I'm on 1440p144hz with VRR (which the 970 can't make use of) and I actually need to upgrade it for my needs. I know that ultra settings are a meme since 2012~ and that going for high end cards it's mostly a waste of money, that's why I'm aiming for a mid range card (240-330$ around vega 64 gtx 1080 levels of performance).

Also like I said, my cards get a second life on my HTPC where I sit far enough from the screen where I aim for 1080p60 with mixed settings or 1440-1800p at 30fps lock like the pro consoles do.

When is Navi 20 coming?

yes

This, example on point I'm still running a 290x on my system at 2560×1080, and it is bottlenecked by the CPU, 2500k. I'll plan to make a new system with zen2 but i'll keep the GPU until new high end amd hit next year.

I think the 290x was an exception for price/performance/longevity, because you wouldn't get the same performance/dollar/year out of similar high end cards today. Basically the 290x was an RX 580 released in 2013 for what, $400? Now the top end cards are $1,200 plus. Big difference even though I see your point.

Okay. Well, what is the credibility of the information leaked by the "AMD employee"? Can we trust this person?

it's just the same rumors we had a year ago dressed up a little. No new information.

>tfw I have Sapphire Vega 64 (3 fans) and I'm getting Zen 2 soon when it comes
Won't be needing upgrades any time soon. By which I mean many years.

You do understand that AMD Radeon develops Navi with Sony for years now right?

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good luck affording mi60+rome

It's worth the wait because other budget/mid tier cards will be cheaper then. Like the gtx 1660ti or a Vega 56.

my dad works for pokemon cards and nintendo

someone please post the AdoredTV Navi (((leaks)))

may as well just buy an old dead gpu that has a nice looking cooler design and stick it in there for show, kek

Personally I opt for buying a midrange GPU every three years rather than buy a high end card every 6 for the same money. It's not just performance, power consumption improves and other new features get better. It also means you don't have to rely on your card lasting as long and you're always in warranty (as long as you avoid cheapo brands that only give 2 years coverage). Additionally it's easier financially as you don't have to cough up as much money up front. Buying a high end card and holding it out with it for 5 years plus is a meme desu

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Absolutely this. Waiting on the upgrade retards selling of their v56 for pennies (v64 if I'm lucky).

goddammit, is that an aio?

the tower is under the table, user

Thank goodness some of us aren't blind.

> I think the 290x was an exception for price/performance/longevity
8800GTX was released in 2006 and was fine till about 2012-13, Deus Ex HR listed it as a required card.
Don't feel like fiddling with a gaming PC at all, rather set it up once and forget about it for the next ten years.
> Buying a high end card and holding it out with it for 5 years plus is a meme desu
It's a quality boomer meme.

So? This is not the point

8-core X zen2 + $259 Navi, here I go!

More importantly what kind of temperatures are we looking at on this card. If it runs as cool as Zen architecture, I'll get it.

I'm back and will answer some questions.

>how's that the memory bandwidth is half of R VII?

It will ship using GDDR6

>wrong. also shouldn't it be 2048KB or 4096KB with 256bit bus?

yes and no

>why not 416GB/s(13000MHz)? do you mean 409.6GB/s(12800MHz)

Just an in between number depending on what gddr6 spec it ships with 32CU will be 448GB/s and 28CU will be 384GB/s

>lol there are games now that the 56 even beats a 1080

It's very situational, but you will see it beating the 1080, depends on the workload

>what happened to it in Vega? last time I read it was disabled cause of drivers

It works, just not as well as expected.

>Don't feel like fiddling with a gaming PC at all, rather set it up once and forget about it for the next ten years.
If you say so, but upgrading graphics card is pretty minimal effort, especially if it's only every 3 years.

same for me. if this is true.

What happened to Vega 64 + 15% for $249?

Are you telling me Adored was full of shit?

Will they have analog output?

lists.freedesktop.org/archives/amd-gfx/2018-August/025320.html

>Both KMD and LLPC are not ready to support NGG for gfx9. We are going to support NGG in amdvlk for next generation GPU.

RAM prices have been shoah'd to jerusalem and back due to price fixing. I think that was the plan, but they're waiting for memory prices to go down.

Do you know # of ROPs and regular geometry engines on the 32 CU variant?

>performance between v56 and 1080
>150w tdp
>$259
so, efficiency is still trash, price is far too high (thanks to nvidia's pricing of the RTX cards, really), and the performance is nothing special
cool, I should have gone with a 1080 ti instead of a v64 desu

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I sympathise with this. For 1080p/60fps, a budget card is absolutely fine. Most people who fall for the pcmasterrace meme end up with grossly overpowered PCs they never use the full power of. I have a 1050ti and every new game I've played I manage to at least get 40 fps with generally high settings. Maybe I'm an eyelet but it seems totally fine to me.

mee too, sending you a DM

This is either a true leak or the most reasonable guess I've ever seen a person make on Jow Forums

>$270+ for a 1070 replacement
Nvidia still wins. The smaller cihps need to BTFO the 1650 series.

270 euros for a 1070 replacement with less vram
nah thanks ill just pay 30 dollars more and get the 1070

you must be talking about the 1660, while I'm talking about Navi, right? Navi will have 8GB versions almost exclusively at this point.

I'm back to add some more info but some of this is subject to change, it's not so much about the GPU itself but the presentations.

Real Time Ray Tracing demo
4K performance demo on following games
Forza Horizon 4
Strange Brigade
Hitman 2
Resident Evil 2

Comparisons vs 1080 and 2060 both for power consumption and framerate.

Graphs vs Polaris

So basically I am better saving for a 2080 for a 1440p 144Hz monitor? It has freesync so I was considering AMD

I mean, a 250~ dollar card is not meant to compete with a 600 dollar + card

so, 90% of the market?