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Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >i7 8700/K - Extreme solution for absolute max FPS >R7 2700/X - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard >RTX 2060 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 1440p >RTX 2060 - standard >RTX 2080 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 - standard >RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's 144Hz with adaptive sync >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
G751JY laptop motherboard with gtx 980m and i7-4710hq - $200 on aliexpress
Replacement cooler and fan - $30
8gb (2x4gb) ddr3 1600mhz - $25
Replacement G75J1Y charger - $30
Some SSD i have lying around - $0
Carson Watson
Well I need to upgrade my GPU. Im doing 4k video with davinci. They reccomend a 8GB VRAM minimum but IDK, would i be able to do *Any* 4k with it or will it possible crash because not enough VRAM. Would 2080 or overprice 2080ti be good choose? Should wait for NAVI?
Is it still the worst time ever to build a computer or has it gotten better since last year?
Juan Kelly
At least pay the extra 10 bucks and get a 8 gig 570
Levi Howard
it never was
Nolan Cook
Honestly, just price. I want to keep the build as close to $800 as possible and I don't really care too much about triple A titles, so I figured it would be safe to cheap out on the gpu.
William Ramirez
yeah sorry i was hyperbolizing because to me it feels like "equivalent" parts were much cheaper 10 years ago
Caleb Reed
Literally at the performance tier where you should be going all used.
Levi Smith
In that case just buy a used thinkcentre or optiplex with a 4th gen i7 and stick a graphics card in it. it'll do what you want for half the price.
I'm monitor shopping and I have the option for higher resolution but no sync or 1080 with sync and cheaper I've got a 2060 so the higher res one probably isn't worth it but I'm asking anyway
Evan Rogers
>Turn language to English >Now always turns it to German because of one site for learning German I fucking hate Android
Dominic Fisher
So ryzen was designed to beat a 3770? Is amd stuck in 2012 or something?
Carson Reed
nice game, good single thread workout by the looks of it.
>>seller on Amazon prices a bunch of RTX at 280€ >buy one >several hours late at 5 AM they cancel the order
just wrote an email to amazon seller performance. anything else i can or should do? what will i get out of this whole deal?
also is it correct to believe they are just doing some bait and switching to get more traffic directed onto them by 3rd parties price checkers/search engines? note that they are still selling stuff, just not discounted.
Charles Nelson
So I was playing heavily modded Kerbal Space Program, when my 1080Ti decided to give up and throw memory fail artefacts all over the place. Whatever, go back into the box. Install spare Vega64 in there. Wtf clouds now cast shadows? Wait a minute, image quality is jut way more better. What's going on?
Blake Martin
SSD speeds don't matter
Julian Morales
What is the name of that shmexy case?
Justin Wood
Intel shills gotta cherrypick to shill for their corrupt piece of shit of a company. Anyone can cherrypick benchmarks.
>AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP i'm using an asrock a320m-hd mobo on a semi poverty rig that supports xmp, got a 3000mhz, pic related. so, at least 2nd gen A chipset supports it, right? or is it manufacturer related? is the xmp support on A chipsets
idk why is that last unfinished sentence still there but ignore it, brain fart
Ayden Long
why biostar? why thst shit case
Christopher Williams
filtered newegg for lowest price cases and no window and found the one that looked like it had the best airflow. biostar because it has good vrm phases or something and is one of the cheapest options. i'm only paying for features that matter. i got the mouse, keyboard and mousepad and i'm using them now. very comfy
Cameron Lewis
>Intel Shills Its true an overclocked 3770K from 2012 beats Ryzen in most games in 2019, pretty sad for AMD fangays xddddd
No, seriously guys, what's going on? Does NVidia not give a fuck anymore and just not support some effects because it makes them look good in benchmarks?
Chase Scott
How important is VRAM allocation in terms of Ryzen APU's?
Can this be done in every AM4 board BIOS or only in the msi ones?
Is this something only the R3 2200G needs or should you do it when you go for a R5 2400G too? I really want to go for an APU but all the quirks these seem to have and the fiddling around w/settings seems like a risky proposition to an extent
>overclocked 3770k I tried that to 4.4Ghz for a month and now it's crippled to a shadow of its old self. Have to disable turbo and hyperthreading for it to be somewhat stable now. So I had no choice but to buy Ryzen.
Brandon Brown
Get a dedicated GPU, even a GTX 1050 would be faster than the integrated graphics and not use PCI wire or use up your system RAM.
Oliver Parker
Unlucky, I had mine running on 4.8GHz since early 2013, until recently when i got an new case with worse airflow and dialed it back to 4.7GHz. How much voltage did you feed it?
Mason Cooper
Wow, I can't imagine that. Mine was throwing massive amount of heat at 4.5, and just wouldn't boot past that.
nice way to not answer his question, no shit a dgpu would perform better (within reason, compared to benchmarks)
depends on the use probably 2400G requires it too (or neither don't with a dgpu)
when you run out of vram it spills into system ram anyway, the potential performance impact at that point is down to your OS' memory management including paging stale stuff to disk to make room if it has to the bottleneck to them isn't necessarily the amount allocated though, it's the speed (among other things) between the CPU and the RAM that caps their performance
if you plan on gaming though it's not a secret a dgpu will outperform it several times over, but for hw accelerated content creation/consumption like video editing or streaming, including game streaming, you won't have a problem with a low amount
Nathan Johnson
>risky proposition changing bios settings to allocate more ram to video hardly sounds like a risky proposition m8, unless you go messing with shit around like a retard without reading. and it's pretty important, 2gb is good. fast ram is mandatory though.
Jonathan Taylor
Did you touch load line calibration? Mine can almost do 4.8GHz at that.
Ayden Reed
What's a good GPU with better graphics than the R5 2400G that can be had used for 40 bucks or less
I don't remember to be quite honest. All I know is 4.5 Ghz was just too hot. LLC would just make it hotter by pushing even moar current into it. I guess you're watercooling? You're watercooling, right?
The 9600K obliterates the 2600 and is a fairer comparison tho. The 9400 is low budget and cheaper than a 2600X, including not needed as high clocked ram and good motherboard.
>9600K $264.89 Intards are clinically retarded and should get the bullet.
Nathan Rivera
>[YouTube] how to build a pc. (embed) Do you not check your posts before hitting post?
Justin Murphy
Ah i just realized the gen2 APU's can't be used with windows 7 at all due to ACPI version mismatch causing failed boots or something
Well that's a dealbreaker then, gonna go for a dedicated GPU in any case then. Now i'll just have to decide between R3 1200 or R5 1400
Are those extra 4 threads really that critical for ingame performance?
Jack Perry
I know, but yet mine did. It's not really dead, but it's shit. Also need to use DDR3-1333 as well to make it stable. And yeah I tried it on my brother's MB when it went to shit.
Evan Long
Cope.
Xavier Lee
>OS is the determining factor boy what
Adam Watson
4 Threads is pretty sloppy, even in desktop once you install some programs. Those extra threads make a big difference.
Hudson Lopez
what games do you intend to play on Windows 7, either from before or upcoming?
Camden Ward
I just found a very good deal for a used GPU that's apparently equivalent with the R5 2400G vega iGPU. Thinking of pulling the trigger on that one and pairing it up with the R5 1400. Technically i would be getting more bang for the buck that way i think but i'll have to look at some benchmarks first
Basically modern fps and mmo like bf1 and gw2
Don't need to play the newest titles on ultra on that machine just those two mainly
David Evans
dude its a joke,
Henry Torres
>1080p Ryzen better, rest equal >1080p Ryzen better, rest equal Equal Mostly equal, not with 2666 RAM Equal, Ryzen worse without OC
WTF AMD BROS, WHY WOULD ANYONE BUY RYZEN IF YOU CAN GET A 9400 FOR CHEAPER AND EQUAL PERFORMANCE IN GAMING????
My 3200Mhz kit is running 2933 Mhz because that's what zen is rated for. It's just that I tweaked the timings a little bit. To be quite honest, all those bench with higher memory speeds are ridiculed when you do proper timing maths.
I won't sell you on 10 but it seems weird to kneecap your build for an OS (and vice-versa, an OS being the cause), but there are alternatives. the 2200G and 2400G are direct upgrades to their counterparts but a tier up (1300X/1500X) for similar pricing. for the cost of a 2400G you can get a 1600 though if you plan on getting a dgpu anyway.
Nicholas Harris
what is the equivalent to GTX 1660 from amd, i don't want an amd cpu + nvidia graphics card
Aiden Allen
On Amazon, 2400G $147 new 1600 $120/$112 used
Angel Richardson
Vega 56 with Raijintek Morpheus mod
Leo Torres
Well the R5 2400G is around 130 bucks here
I could opt for the R5 1400 instead and pair it up with some used dGPU and it would still be 130 bucks at the end but with much better graphics power/more bang for the buck as the other user pointed out above
