You are running a pi hole server on your home network, right user?

Are you able to pull up a side by side comparison of a site featuring ads enabled and one with disabled?

Setting up my home network and would like to try this out. Also, does it block you from any services that may have been overlooked?

What are your blocklists?

Piggybacking this. I just watched a video and after it blocks the ad, it just leaves a big blank space. I've gotten used to uBlock collapsing those spaces down, so I'm curious if yall just deal with this.

There are a few things blocked that I have to manually whitelist but very few things. I would do a side-by-side comparison but I also have uBlock Origin installed.

I have the same problem user, I usually just leave unlock origin on all the time when I'm on my pihole network, would like to disable the extension but it gets annyoing with the boxes.

The biggest and most recent one I use is this one: dbl.oisd.nl/

Has over 1.4 million blocked domains.

Nah I'm just running unbound with filtering done via Steven Black's hosts file

based

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i fell for the meme lol

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you're all blocklets

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Yep, I'm also running unbound.

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>not having 3 million + blocked domains

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LOL wtf. Can you even surf the web properly?

yes. it's not running on a raspberry pi either, it's running on a NUC

All I do is browse and the wife occasionally uses Facebook and this fucker blocks 50% of my traffic! Wtf it's insane how much I pay for a service to show me ads I didn't ask for.

I don't do DNS-based blocking since I run almost all my browsing through a VPN anyway, and I don't have any non-browsing traffic that needs ad-blocking, since I don't use spyware from smartphone app stores. I also neither have nor particularly want an RPi, and I don't care for things that want to be administered over a web interface instead of by SSH.

I do have Unbound doing DNS-over-TLS on the machine I use for my router, just because of the principle of the thing.

I’m thinking of retiring my pi hole. All it fucking does is block a lot of websites I try to access (porn, news sites, random shit I find on google), and fuck up a lot of games and apps because for some reason one of the twenty domains they phone home are absolutely needed to work.

I’ve also noticed that there’s a longer delay to loading webpages now, so I’ve just took it off my DNS server list in my device’s settings.

Did I make a mistake by preloading it with Wally’s black list? How the fuck do you set this thing up so it’s not a pain in the ass?

thanks for the new list

stop being a brainlet

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Anytime I go crazy with blocking this many domains, adding a ton of random block lists, I get a bunch of false positives. Also post a full screen shot so we can see how many devices you are actively using. That will show us if you're some faggot neet.

Go into the request log when something is blocked that you use and whitelist it. Problem solved.

Now kys for being this retarded.

fuck you nigger, its not mine or pi-holes fault you don't know how to use a whitelist you braindead retard

who needs peehole

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Well you are dumb as fuck so let me break this down for you. Pi-hole add blocks across your network, not just a single device.

well you are dumb as fuck because you can block on every device without buying another device to block ads

I'm running Pi-hole on a server that I got for free from work, jokes on you fuck boi. We can't all be poor fags.

Ty

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says the poorfag who stole it from work because he can't afford pi

It's outdated hardware that was bound for the scrap heap due to sensitive material. It's an old Procera server (not that you understand any of this because you're probably a shit skin). It's mainly a torrent/plex box, due to outdated hardware, but leagues better than a Pi. Do you even have a computer poorfag? Or are you just a shitskin mobile poster? Do you have any real world reason to add block on that shitty android device other than getting on pornhub? Do you have a good father figure in your life? I hope you have a MAGA hat.

Sometimes my RPI just freezes and I'm not at home all the time to restart it.

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>pi hole
Nope

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i don't know how.

Yea, I run more than that but yea.

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Nah I can run plain dnsmasq myself and I actually like to have network performance.
>pihole
>Brave
You like to fall for all the memes, huh?

no

my phone has blokada
my laptop uses the hosts file
and my ps4 doesnt matter

show upstream servers

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>needing a separate device and pre-made software with zoomer-tier GUI for something that can be done on a router with just a simple cron job
I knew Jow Forums was incompetent, but still.

Do you even realize that adguard sells your surfing habits to companies?

make a cronjob to reboot it at night when you sleep

Been using Adguard Home since its release. Only thing pi hole missing is the ease of setting up a DoH upstream.

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yes

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Attached a comparison. It's a useful tool, but the biggest benefit comes for devices that don't have adblocking capabilities like Consoles, Android Apps, Smart TVs etc Blocks all that shit. I've set it up to neuter social network tracking too. I also block shithole websites with it.

How you black mode?

What are you retarded, it's literally just DNSMasq, and loads from host files. Response time is damn near instant (and faster than going out of the network).

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I've got mine running from DNSMasq -> Stubby -> DNSoverTLS

Nice having a secure uplink in spy central Straya. Overall, would recommend as it's damn fast, but wouldn't replace uBlock etc

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Yes

I'm not a brainlet that cannot configure dnsmasq so I don't need some node-js bloat to do that for me.

Of course. Also had one setup at my parents house and my in-laws. Working great, even managed to stop some malware from activating.

I ran the benchmarks to show the things. DotCom performance is impacted because I'm running DNSSEC over DNSoverTLS, which means some additional time cost. Pretty snappy though.

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>literally just DNSMasq
Yeah, so why do I need extra software for it?
>Response time is damn near instant
Yeah but if you're actually running it on a Pi, ideally you'd reroute all traffic and filter 53/udp, in which case enjoy 100Mbps half-duplex.
>(and faster than going out of the network)
You still have to go out of the network in the end for valid queries.

You should probably get a new Pi, that shit doesn't happen normally. I literally never ever ever ever have to turn mine off.

Telling him to get a new raspberry is fucking over the top, relax.

Run dmesg and check that your power supply is not brown-outing. Could be many things from botched upgrade to this. Before you waste money rather flash a new micro sd if it is not power and do a clean slate.

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How does it work? I have a PI lying around, i just need to connect it to my router and make it into a DNS server, that's all it does, blocks DNS?

You don't, I'm merely pointing out the argument that it fucks with network performance is pants on head.

It gives some useful stats and stuff too, but you don't need it.

>Yeah but if you're actually running it on a Pi, ideally you'd reroute all traffic and filter 53/udp, in which case enjoy 100Mbps half-duplex.
Why the fuck would I want to do that. I'm just sending Port 53 to it. I've got my router to intercept and re-route hi-jacking attempts. Every time one of you idiots make this argument it leaves my ears bleeding from the stupidity of it.

>You still have to go out of the network in the end for valid queries.
Only if you don't have them cached. 48% of my DNS requests are either hitting cache or blocklists (cached). In the other circumstances, I'm paying a small latency cost that I consider worth it.

>I'm just sending Port 53 to it.
At this point you might as well run dnsmasq or similar directly on your router though.

Except my router isn't going to be running Stubby.

My router does run DNSMasq, but I may as well run everything on the same machine.

If I've got an old PC doing NAS duty, can I run this in a VM on it or does it have to be a dedicated device?

jesus fucking christ, looking at that chair makes my ass hurt.

It'll run just fine on a VM. I'm running mine on Debian in Hyper-V.

In before mockery..

I'm not an ugly fat virgin living in a mom's basement, so, obviously, no, I don't.
Do me a favor, have sex.

You are redirecting all DNS to your pfblocker or pihole right user? Don't want those pesky programs with hardcoded DNS to get around your blocklist..

I'd end up doing the same, mine is a WS2012 box. Hyper-V is a nice convenient way to set up VMs if you don't need to do anything fancy.

How the fuck do I block youtube ads with pihole?

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I don't think you can. That will require something local I suspect. I don't know though, coz I have YouTube red or whatever they call it now.

Why would I do that when I can just run a filter list in my router?

use a bigger filter list

>he thinks his chink shit router holds 2 million DNS blacklist entries

you can't because they serve ads from the same domains as the videos

I don't because it doesn't.
But it could, if I wanted it to.

>a pi hole server on your home network
No, I don't, and I won't. And I find the whole concept to be fundamentally wrong and somewhat unacceptable.

I enjoy using UBlock Origin in my browser and there should absolutely be application-level control over what is shown and fetched. I do like adblocking. But... if some application asks for example.tld then the DNS server should, in my opinion, lookup example.tld and return the IP. The DNS server saying "you can't have that one because I don't like that one" means it's .. broken.

>Pi-hole add blocks across your network, not just a single device.
Exactly why I have a problem with the concept. It takes control away from the devices on the network. That's wrong. But.... there is also the problem of
>the biggest benefit comes for devices that don't have adblocking
I guess there's not really any alternative to network-based blocking when it comes to solving that one.

It's just DNS-based blacklisting. Just slam any DNS server which supports blacklists (all of them) on any piece of hardware and you're fine. You only need pi-hole if you don't have a NAS or some other computer running 24/7. And you don't really need a whole VM to run unbound or dnsmasq.

>my router can do it
>oh wait it cannot
>it could if I wanted
why are you doofus in here if you don't even block anything anywhere?

You can't

>I do like adblocking. But... if some application asks for example.tld then the DNS server should, in my opinion, lookup example.tld and return the IP. The DNS server saying "you can't have that one because I don't like that one" means it's .. broken.

you're fucking autistic

How come ublock can?
I disabled ublock because I thought pihole would be doing the job with good blocklists. I hate redundancy.

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Jesus fucking christ does Jow Forums consist of 70% phoneposters nowadays? Just look at these screenshots. No wonder thread quality is going to shit.

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>>oh wait it cannot
Nice inserting something not even implied.
Need to support your narrative, I guess.

>disabled ublock because pihole
Do you know what cosmetic filtering is?
uBO does so much more than blocking, it also frees up the space taken up by the ads
Please user..

>I don't because it doesn't.

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>No, I don't, and I won't. And I find the whole concept to be fundamentally wrong and somewhat unacceptable.
Except you get to define what it doesn't return. It's entirely up to you.

>It's just DNS-based blacklisting. Just slam any DNS server which supports blacklists (all of them) on any piece of hardware and you're fine. You only need pi-hole if you don't have a NAS or some other computer running 24/7. And you don't really need a whole VM to run unbound or dnsmasq.
You're not wrong, PiHole just automates all the stuff for you and gives you an interface. On my Debian VM, with Stubby and HAProxy and a bunch of other micro services, I'm using like 500MB of memory. It costs me nothing to run it on. You can run the PiHole scripts on basically any Linux machine.

Because uBlock can do heuristic blocking of requests. It fucks with the actual requests to download the ads.

PiHole is literally just a DNS block. So if someone hosts their ad scripts on legit servers, it's going to get through. The simple answer is no-one does that because it's silly. YouTube do it because they can.

If I set my routers DNS to the IP of a PiHole (let's say a Raspberry Pi 3 on ethernet). What will the throttling/slow downs be like when I start piling more and more devices on the network making requests?

I don't because I don't care.
I don't even have a million filters in ublock.

Literally none. Even on the raspberry pi, the response time is sub millisecond. If anything, you'll find it speeds up initial page loads.

>I can't
>b-but saying I don't care makes me look less dumb

o.k.

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Also I don't run mine on a pi I run it as a vm

Checked.
Cheers, I'll probably get one set up now

>i must drive my narrative because otherwise i'll look like a fool for using a raspberry pi to do what my router could have just done on its own

Nice. I posted a set of benchmarks with a DNS tool above. You can use it to work out if the PiHole improves things, but also which upstream DNS server to use (if you want to).

If you want to check performance, just grab the tool and run it. Expect the requests that go outside your network to be a smidgen slower, and everything else to be way faster.

Jow Forums, you're smart. Im not.

I want to set up a home server to both use an online network (loaded with my media for all devices to use) and as a way to start my own servers in games maybe like counter-strike. I have no idea what pihole is but I bet I'd want that too.

All I have is a desktop PC a good battery backup and an external 2tb ssd

you can also block ips with a fw blacklist

Learn how to Linux. It's both worth it, and way better than Windows for what you want to do.

There are a couple of ways to go from here. You can
1. Install everything directly onto the Linux machine
2. Start spinning up VMs
3. Learn how to use Docker (which is fantastic when you work out how to use it, but requires some work)

I'm currently moving all my shit over to Docker. I'm running
1. Plex
2. Sonarr
3. NZBGet
4. Deluge
5. PiHole
6. HAProxy (so I can have SSL termination in front of all the above)
7. Samba for network sharing instead of Plex, because Plex sucks except for mobile/outside the network

Be willing to learn, and take regular backups of the configs you make. Then if you fuck something up, you can easily recreate your Linux install, and just point it at your content again.

great post :)

Thanks. but can I use it in Windows?

You can't run it on Windows. The software requires Linux to run on.

Windows machines can benefit from it though.