Will tech salaries keep going up?

Or is it about to crash?

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what the fuck do you even "engineer" at linkedin that would warrant half a mil

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5+ years is a terrible measure. It includes people who have been there exactly 5 years and those with 15 years.

L4 Googler here in MTV on $240k poverty zone. L5s get $400k???
Fuck my life

You work at an evil company and I hope your $240k/yr is enough to sooth your conscience.

Lmao I work at a company on Ellis street as a senior engineer making 120k

70% of it will go to housing in San Francisco. Fuck this socialist utopia.

>real estate speculation is socialist now

L4 can get 300k+, you need to be exceeding expectations

No, but insane taxes and laws that prohibit housing supply to increase as the market demands is socialist af.

the overwhelming of you are dumb cunts. Those salaries are largely from stock growth. When the bubble pops they'll be making $100k like everyone else.

>speculation
san fran glow in darks block housing development

Ironically, SF is simultaneously the most capitalistic and socialist place in the world.

More like 10%.

Is this actually true? What are the taxes there? We have basically no taxes here and my rent is under a grand. 200k gets you a nice home. Am saving up 20% for it

Sounds to me like you don't know the first thing about socialism.

funny, my base salary is 200k+

the powers that be ((())) will encourage everyone to try STEM and flood the market with pajeets to lower those wages

More efficient data gathering botnet. That's basically what most of those companies are selling, user info.

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What the fuck are these people even doing to warrant this money? Linkedin? Netflix? Fucking airbnb and Facebook? What are these retards getting paid 400k for that some Indian for 30k couldn't do better? I actually want to know what they're doing because I can guarantee it's not even a tenth as hard as what an actual engineer does who doesn't get paid even half that

how do you not get bored doing something like that for 5+ years

Neo-feudalism at it's finest

Yes. Houses in SF start at over a million (even tiny dumps, which most of them are) and 1 bedroom shack apartments start at over $3,000 a month. Add to this insane taxes on literally everything. I fucking hate this place.

They're managing teams and overseeing projects, user. Show me a pajeet that can do that.

>Show me a pajeet that can do that.

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Is this picture real? Do seniors really make 400k? I’m trying to get my foot in the industry and I’d be happy with 6 figures but 400k seems insane

shill, take your meds

>Is this picture real?
yes levels.fyi/ and teamblind.com/articles/Compensation
400k really is not enough

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i honestly can't put my finger on what exactly a programmer employee does all day to warrant 100k+ a year. I highly doubt they are producing 100k/y worth of work, it's incredibly overpaid. imagine 400k+, ridiculous
these companies are mostly apps that are already established.
probably 99% of new features that the employees implement are trashed because they're bloat/unnecessary.

I can see a programmer job warranting 100k+ as a game dev or something similar, because you're constantly working on a new game all the time.

I'm graduating in CS with shit tier GPA soon and I realize this overpay bubble will inevitably burst once people realize you can just google the problem and implement the solution with just a couple youtube vids as reference, or just go to fiverr and hire a couple pajeets, shove them in a discord and start a project.

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>I'm graduating in CS with shit tier GPA soon and I realize this overpay bubble will inevitably burst once people realize you can just google the problem and implement the solution with just a couple youtube vids as reference, or just go to fiverr and hire a couple pajeets, shove them in a discord and start a project.

This has happened once. It was called dotcom bubble. Then they started competing for capable people to avoid producing unusable bullshit leading to current wages and ability of at least halfway decent programmer with expertise in some language, communication skills and architectural understanding capable of choosing his workplace. Even investors are usually investing in capable team, not a brilliant idea.

i'm willing to bet that an app like Uber can be maintained by 2-3 main programmers, a project manager, and a public bug bounty program so 3rd world shabbos goyims do the security work for the company

I don't think you understand how many shitty coders there actually out there. Bugs in applications can make companies lose a lot of money and cleaner code also means further development is much easier.
Also I take it you have never dealt with outsourced coding which up front is cheap but half the time it never exactly what you asked it to do

okay. but what exactly would a uber programmer do right now that warrants 400k+, when the app is already developed, the engine will stay the same forever, and it's only front end work left to do to change looks every now and then?

Wtf is L5?

please answer my question. I googled just now
>what does a software engineer actually do
and all i got was a literal NIGGER showing everyone how cool he is despite being a Koder!, just like koder girls.
NO SIGN of his code or what he actually did on sight, just wake up, eat, have a chat, sit at computer and type random stuff/surf the net, go home. rinse repeat.
are they actually programming 100% of the time? highly doubt it.

>source for the nigger
youtube.com/watch?v=WWggmC8kYZc

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this feels so fake, that nigger KNOWS he doesn't belong there. yet he's still in, leeching salary
>MUP DA DOO DIDDA BIN DAT TUM MUHFUGGEN BIX NOOD MUHFUGGA
>AYO YOU GOT SUMMA DAT ALGORITHMS WHITE BOI? GIMME DAT!
>*copy pastes from stack overflow*
>uhh Tyrone, i'm afraid your Kode is shit. you will have to redo it. throw it all away!
>nigger just leeched a whole week's worth of salary for it to be thrown away
>he's still hired

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fuck niggers, lol!

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nice dubs

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you're a dunce
FAANG have been making money hand over fist for years now. consider that a former tech giant, Kodak, used to employ 120,000 people in the us alone, and sold $10 billion in one year. google only employs 85000 people in the entire world and made 110 billion.
the employees are getting the shit end of the stick, they're on the saddle of the exponential curve. it sure seems like a lot to someone at the end towards 0 but it's really fuck all of the total area.

i'm just trying to understand what exactly warrants such a salary if all the employees do is slack off and consume food/media at work hours like the nigger

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>leave work at 5pm
this is the only fucking "A DAY IN A LIFE OF X" video where I've seen this.
This is how it's supposed to be, not like that French cuck who stays at work til like 7 or 8 pm, what the fuck is wrong with those people. They get like 1 hour of gym class or some shit during work and think it's acceptable to keep people at work til the evening because of that.
Also have you two never had a job of this kind? it's not really unheard of, my coworker takes at least an hour and half break every day, 2 hours most of the time, but yea these ~4 hours shown there seem excessive.
Also you're a fucking retard if you think everyone earns that much by simply being a developer, I doubt he earns over 90k

>the comment section is all virtue signaling, no talk about job stuff whatsoever
oof. that's a bubble right there frens

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I am a pseudo NEET going to uni because parents pay it. never had a real job. To get money I bot MMOs, so I have no clue. I expected a company environment to require you to produce at least as much value as you are paid, if not more.

to elaborate more, I don't see how it's worth for an employer to hand out 90k, 50k, or even 10k, to have a nigger monkey shitting up the company kitchen making his coffee, stinking up the room with his unwashed ass (he didnt shower when he woke up), and getting on the computer to browse the internet and listen to music. it makes no logical sense, he should not be employed if he's not producing anything of value

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Does this mean people working 5+ years at the respective company or just 5 years of experience professionally programming?

In a socialist system the State would create more popular housing

> I don't see how it's worth for an employer to hand out 90k, 50k, or even 10k, to have a nigger monkey
Just because person A works less than person B that doesn't mean person A is less productive. Maybe person B is more stupid and has to spend more time fixing their programs. Or maybe the company had to hire person A (who is a nigger) in order to get a tax cut, I don't know how that diversity thing works in the US.
> he didnt shower when he woke up
Showering everyday ruins your skin, you should shower every other day and wash your armpits/face/genitals/ass every day. But the most important thing in order to not smell bad is to wash your clothes.

You faggots don't get it. The way you make a lot of money is by siloing yourself with a team that manages an important component with many dependencies. You need to achieve a certain level of political power before you can do this, but when you do (and if you are a computer wizard) you can implement it all yourself and amass a large proportion of domain knowledge. For example, if you are the architect for the support system that other components are rigged to use to self report CIEs, your value shoots up.

Once you have made yourself the expert for a component that everyone else depends on, companies will fight tooth and nail to keep you. At this point, start applying to other senior level jobs. You'll get an offer - and it doesn't even matter if it's more, just go to your boss and let him know that you are thinking of leaving. Your boss/HR department WILL ask you how much you want, or how much the competing companies are offering. Make sure you NEVER give them a number. They have a budget, and if they don't know how much they need to pay to keep you they're just going to cap it out.

This is how you get pay raises in tech. If you're not applying for new jobs every year you are a cuck.

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>Dad worked in EU
>Often flew around the world, literally 24/7
>Did hundred million sales and oversaw them
>Made 9999 a month.
Hurts my soul to see some code monkies to make more while he made so little for it. Fuck this commie shithole

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>provide technical leadership in a team
Fixing pajeet code

How can you be bored with that income?

with my luck, total crash

>400k really is not enough
based chad programmer

you will make it user

They can't actually record themselves working, pretty sure that would get them in trouble.