Google accused of sabotaging Firefox,again

It seems Google doesn't always playfair
techspot.com/news/79672-google-accused-sabotaging-firefox-again.html
>Google Chrome ads started appearing next to Firefox search terms. Gmail & [Google] Docs started to experience selective performance issues and bugs on Firefox. Demo sites would falsely block Firefox as 'incompatible',
>This isn’t the first time such accusations have appeared. Last year, Mozilla Program Manager Chris Peterson tweeted that Google had intentionally slowed down the YouTube loading performance of Firefox and Edge. The site had previously loaded faster than Chrome on these browser, but Google “switched to using a JavaScript library for YouTube that they knew wasn’t supported by Firefox,”
Thoughts?

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>Thoughts?
best to not think about these things.

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I think they're doing the same with Twitch somehow
I can't watch streams in Firefox without freezes every minute or so

Is this what Google hires the best programmers for? Responsiveness for the lousy Windows scheduler?

They obviously don't play fair. But it works desu. I went back to Chrome after Firefox permanently had trouble with Google products.

Why is Google at fault is Firefox is lacking support and refuses to fix or implement

I guess they can retire this old slogan.

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Hard to organize a boycott when google products and sevices are used mainly by cucks.

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The Jews are evil. What else do you need to know?

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666 isn't the number of the beast, 616 is

Based free market. You guys aren't commies who oppose this right?

>Firefox has bad performance
wow what a fucking revelation

I'm a socialist

>it works
In some circumstances, and for some people, it may.
I value my privacy, so I've decided to simply not use Google products and stick with Firefox.

>google doesn't always play fair
WOW
WHAT A REVALATION
who would have ever suspected that the honest, consumer-protecting Google would ever do such a thing?

They already did.

Capitalism slows down progress and literally destroys our habitat.

Thanks obama.

did somebody say CAPITALISM?
get him boys!

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the smarter thing to do would have been to stop using google products.
seriously, fuck google.

>Using google search engine ever
>Using google docks ever
Never noticed any hiccups with youtube using firefox.

google is retarded, i bet they're not adhering to web standards because they barely know what they are. reminder that they hired moot.

They seem to be specifically aiming for firefox. Why is that? Man, I wish newpipe was a PC program/add-on (although just being updated more often would be gold)

On another note, chrome has 68% market share? Firefox only has 9%? wow. I never would've guessed. Not that I'm particularly a fan of firefox, but 68% is insane compared to how close they are.

they hired him because he managed to attract a huge number of people to his own website
now the chance that he can recreate his success is very small, but that small chance is enough for google to keep him around
it's just a few million dollars (provided he doesn't get fired before that) for the chance of making billions

I couldn't care less since I am not a mentally retarded 12yo who watches videos inside his browser or actually goes to youtube.com

Intellectual scholars like I am just use mpv+youtube-dl to watch videos and some non js yt frontend to get the links

That's the reason I have a user-agent spoofing extension.

When will the FTC break this market monopoly and for windows to randomly install Firefox or edge browser.

>Damn our browser sucks and it losing market share at lightning speed. Better dump half a million dollars into diversity hiring a new social media team instead of fixing it.
>Loses more market
>WHAT THE FUCK GOOGLE SABOTAGE!

this, Firefox isn't being sabotaged, it's just shit.
>switched to using a JavaScript library for YouTube that they knew wasn’t supported by Firefox
this makes no sense. JavaScript libraries aren't 'supported' by browsers. If Spidermonkey runs like shit or doesn't support the required features then that's their fault.

It's amazing that they think it's Googles responsibility to design their products around ensuring they fit with Firefox's shit design problems.

/thread

>Google dindu nuffin

>"Are you experiencing loading issues?"

That message plagued me for a while on youtube despite the blazing speed of every other website streaming video.

>skip the entire point of article and bring sjw meme again
Fuck off google shill. Firefox is flawless that's why you resort to unrelated topics

It's the browser makes fault for not supporting javascript libraries. It is not the job of Google to hobble their services to conform to Firefoxs garbage design

>Ford demands Audi stop producing cars with better MPG than them, claims market sabotage

Firefox support all html standards. It's website fault for not follow standards and implement browser specific features

>chromedrones defending jewgle
Fuck nu/g/

Already switched to Bing. Going to switch my domain to Exchange (from grandfathered free G-Suite). Now I just have to kick the YouTube habit and switch to iPhone.

They have like 80% market share why they resort to this kind of kikery?

>Bing
at least use DDG if you're leaving daddy google

Fucking Google... the most evil company ever.

I will never stop using Firefox no matter what tricks Google tries to play on me.

>I'm just so dependent on the constant raping by google that I just figured I'd just embrace it and hold my asshole open so they cum quicker
kys

Stop using Windows then.

Meh. Some Manuscripts say 666 some say 616. Scholars are still debating it.

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t google jew

>using youtube.com
Just use invidio.us to watch YouTube videos

whats a good alternative to docs?
no, libreoffice doesn't count

What is better, aryan, but tranny, or straight, but jew? Or needful mexian or indian?

firefox is literally less capable than chrome

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The speed difference is negligible in real world usage. Especially when you whitelist js with uBO.
With firefox I have more control over network requests and the UI. There are also better features like multi-account containers and temporary containers.
privacy.firstparty.isolate;true
security.ssl3.rsa_des_ede3_sha;false
security.ssl.require_safe_negotiation;true
security.tls.version.min;3
security.tls.enable_0rtt_data;false
security.ssl.enable_false_start;false
browser.cache.disk.enable;false
browser.cache.disk_cache_ssl;false
network.dns.disablePrefetch;true
network.prefetch-next;false
webgl.disabled;true
media.peerconnection.enabled;false
geo.enabled;false
dom.event.contextmenu.enabled;false
dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled;false
dom.battery.enabled;false
security.dialog_enable_delay;0
browser.urlbar.trimURLs;false
browser.download.animateNotifications;false
extensions.pocket.enabled;false
gfx.webrender.enabled;true
gfx.webrender.all;true

>dem "english" skills
t. 3rd world shitposter

those are edge cases in most instances, a totally useless metric.
show me one site that you use daily that doesn't work with FF.

Chrome also uses its own fucking web protocol (QUIC) on YouTube

>Google Chrome ads started appearing next to Firefox search terms.
How is this a complaint? That's how search adverts work you retards. Hell, Firefox does exactly the same shit, I've seen their ads on fresh installs that haven't got an adblocker while trying to download Chrome.
>Demo sites would falsely block Firefox as 'incompatible'
Firefox's market share is plummeting so much that developers can't be bothered to make it work and just say "ayy lmao unsupported", some news sites I use(d) started doing this.

>inb4 s-shill
I use both Firefox and Chrome, and FF exclusively on Android. Stop being in denial.

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12bytes.org/articles/tech/firefox/firefox-extensions-my-picks

They are eating everything
When will they come for me?

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The free market is a zero sum game. It will result in all money being held by one person. Free markets only have utility under the precondition that there is adequate fair (in terms of government intervention mostly) competition. Which governments are duty bound to ensure by preventing monopolistic behaviour.
Google as a company is involved in several different markets, but if you lump them all together it does become monopolistic.
That said, Google is totally in the okay if they have a legitimate reason for changing the JavaScript library (like improving the website's performance).

It could is 999

Stop pretending to know what you're talking about, you drooling retard. Google intentionally used an old and deprecated version of the Shadow DOM API (v0) that all other browsers had already dropped support for because it was obsolete and had been replaced by v1. And this wasn't some iterative change either - the calls totally changed (for example createShadowRoot vs attachShadow).

Chrome has also now finally dropped v0 support this year, though already supported v1 since 2016, meaning there was literally zero reason to use v0 when building the new Polymer design for Jewtube beyond sabotaging other browsers. The idea that Firefox, Edge, Safari and everything else are the ones that are shit for not clinging to outdated and deprecated APIs is hilarious.

I did notice youtube was slower. Not that it matters though since I just go there to save links so I can download them via yt-dl.

>Firefox doesn't support a feature
>this is Google's fault because Google also owns that particular website
That's bullshit. It's their site and their browser, of course they shouldn't care about compat or anyone else. That sounds like Mozilla complaining about themselves being unready.

Microsoft office 2007 or 2010 using wine.

This is what I ended up doing and it's working great so far.

Would an user agent trick help with this?

/thread

As much as I hate google, I also hate Mozilla, so I don't really care.

Alex, what are "polyfills"?

firefox being bloated to hell and back
mozilla saying publcly that
>we must move past meritocracy

but their problem is that google updates their shit faster than firefox

I use Firefox and I also use Google sites extensively. Never had a problem. Chrome can lick my taint. I only have it installed to use with a proxy to buy things using my US credit card with a US IP address. It's my backup proxy browser. I tried using other Firefox based browsers for that but one shopping site I use gets fussy when I do that.

If society moved past meritocracy, then FF wouldn't exist.

Google = EVIL

Why do Google start fighting browsers? They are not a browser-company. What a weird fight to make.

Does this work? I am experiencing slowdown when using firefox on google websites like youtube.

Everything is fair in love and war.

So Google is doing exactly what Microsoft did with IE? That's just awesome! I miss the good ol' times when web development was 90% making it fucking work in internet fucking explorer.

This is neither you Hitler.

This is a business meeting sir, no killing and shooting here

Chrome's UI has become total ass lately, ever since they rolled out the rounded edges address bar design. Tab design has got worse. They disabled the option which allowed you to mute tab audio selectively by just clicking on the icon too.

Overall, Chrome is just getting worse. Firefox at least has a much better tab design and UI, even though in some respects is behind Chrome.

But overall Firefox is fine to use and has better UI than Chrome.

Yea they would.

accurate

mpv $(xsel -b)

pretty sure mozilla was talkng about their company

self host collabora or onlyoffice

consider two artefacts:
chromebooks and android devices.
also consider the number of chromium browsers and other applications, which may or may not contribute.

The thing is, their stuff actually works better than the competition? If you give me a good alternative to Google Maps, GMail (I know and use ProtonMail, but I know a variety of foreign services that literally don't take anything else than some of their inland email providers and GMail), YouTube and Google (the search engine) I would do so gladly.
The thing is, I've tried alternatives and all of them were worse (before someone tries to argue with DuckDuckGo, it sucks if you try to use a different language than English).
So yes, I use Google products.

God bless the free market.
Don't like it? Just make a better product, lol.

I noticed that shit too a long time ago
I couldnt write comments on youtube on all my firefox devices for some time, there were also some other bugs that weren't there before, but only on google products
I also have both Browsers and i can't understand why everybody is saying that chrome is faster than Firefox
I tested it on multiple devices and i can confirm that they are both eqaully fast
Chrome just has the Placebo where it loads the white Caracas of the site immediately but firefox loads the complete site at once

Nokia maps were the noneplusultra in terms of free maps, don't know how it is today but i think here maps is for sure an alternative
There are many Email providers that work well, you just need to be sure it's an good International one and some gay shit like web(.) de
Youtube, yes it's like the only option if you want something good
Google has good alternatives like duck duck go, starting page, quant, duck duck go uses multiple search engines i.o. Yandex wich is russian, quant is german so there are alternatives

They really want people to use their platform and their browser.

>enable password and login saving again after having it disabled
>log into google
>not being asked to save the password

youtube.com/watch?v=5vPlN6b7sWs

What is antitrust

>(before someone tries to argue with DuckDuckGo, it sucks if you try to use a different language than English).
> good alternatives like [...] quant
Are you even trying?

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Then use some search engine that is specialized on japanese u cuck

if your goal is to move away from google products, and you want a non-google search engine, then the solution is obvious: use bing.
we can starve google to death by using their competitors products.

Microsoft is just as worse as Google though.

What does all this shit do? I'm trying to look it up, but each one seems to have reams of info on the subject. I'm testing them out in a sandbox.

based retarded goy poster

Use a meta search engine. It will take your query and spread it across multiple search engines then give you the results.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metasearch_engine
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_search_engines#Metasearch_engines

>Dogpile is a metasearch engine for information on the World Wide Web that fetches results from Google, Yahoo!, Yandex, Bing[2][3]
>Info.com is a metasearch engine, which provides results from search engines and directories, including Google, Yahoo!, Ask, Teoma, AlltheWeb, Inktomi, Yandex, Open Directory, Kanoodle, LookSmart and About.com.[1][2]