How important is data cap in the 21st century?

>use netflix a lot
>"wtf why is netflix hogging all my data"
King of retards.

>data cap
LAND OF THE FREEDUMBS

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>data cap
We dont even have that in canada anymore.

>Should Netflix be allowed to hog it all?
In what way does this make sense?
You pay for an internet connection at a given bandwidth, say 100mbps.
That means you get access to the internet at 100mbps, who fucking cares if that's 100mbps of Netflix or 100mbps of literally anything else?

yes, yes goy, the companies use every cent you give them to provide you a great service, if you want more pay more :^)

Data caps are fucking retarded. I wish someone would actually break up ISPs here in burgerland, but both sides are too retarded to do it.

I don't think breaking them up helps at all.
When Bell was broken up, it just re-consolidated back into Verizon and AT&T.
Regulation that enforces net neutrality and bans datacaps would be more effective.

Fucking Drumpfkins and their anti-NN bullshit.

ISP/Telecom companies are greedy fucks who want to find any excuse to charge you for something imaginary. First it was minutes, then it was per-text, then it was data, and now that the internet is more content-rich than it ever has been before, ISPs just want a piece of that profit.

Don't be fucking tech-illiterate and let ISPs fuck you up the ass.

>Regulation that enforces net neutrality and bans datacaps
Means nothing. They'll just jack up the prices anyway. You got to break them up. Even the companies eventually come back together in the future, at least you'll have some temporary relief.

>retards keep attacking people for their religion when they should be hitting high-tier government buildings and bigwig corporate holdings

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yeah but drumpf say muslim man bad
jew man good, jew man have money

well I almost agree, but I have used comcast for years in an area where there is no fiber, and the only other ISPs are dialup or dialup-speed wireless connections. Comcast never had a data cap until the past couple years, and the rates they charge for going over are absolutely insane.

I'd happily use a service plan that charged based on bandwidth used, if the cost was reasonable. Comcast has a monopoly in many areas and abuses the fuck out of it though. As soon as my city gets fiber I'll be dumping comcast, actually I have already considered just using t-mobile for my home internet because it's actually just as fast or faster, and their data prices are more reasonable than comcasts prices. That's the state of internet access in many areas: a cable connection is slower and more expensive than using a cell connection.

>being this dumb
What you said is only true because the network infrastructure itself isn't saturated by the information on it. Information transfer takes energy, and therefore resources, just like literally everything else. Meaning it's all a zero sum game which necessarily means that any traffic on the network is taking bandwidth that would otherwise be available for something else. This is an unavoidable, inarguable fact of economic law.
You can't be this stupid. You literally can't.

Doesn't Netflix sell an appliance for ISPs? It acts as a cache for most of Netflix so the traffic is mostly between homes and an ISP datacenter.

Who owns those buildings user? What international clique coordinates all this? Where are they based globally? What are their interests?

No data caps, that sound like socialism.

They have a few ways of making their service more available and performant, which involve ISP cooperation, but I'm pretty sure to the ISPs this just means they don't need as much infrastructure to charge you the same price for the same service. Getting Netflix without it counting towards your cap is only going to happen through market competition, and a lot of consumers would have a shit fit because they were brainwashed by the left-wing net-neutrality propaganda

DESU we should have data queues. No cap, just wait in line for your internet ration like every other comrade does. No need for caps if you only get 100mb chunks of bandwidth at once

>leftist crying, always mentions anal penetration
You have issues. Stop inserting politics where it doesn't belong polfag.

Here in socialist norway every ISP has to compete with the government ISPs and ad long as the majority doesn't want data caps they won't add it. And the private ISPs don't benefit from adding it either, there is a lot of competition and they all have to be better than the government options. Everyone can use the public tax-funded infrastructure. It is not like America where the public pays for infrastructure with taxes and only one company is allowed to use it.

Consider this. Netflix increases the demand for high-bandwidth connections, causing an increase in supply and a decrease in price. This benefits me because I want a high bandwidth connection for other reasons.

That's basically how it already works.
By paying for bandwidth, you're paying for a small fraction of their capability to distribute data.
Data caps are a thing because they don't update their infrastructure and vastly oversell how much bandwidth they actually have available.

You're being dumb.
Users pay for a given bandwidth.
If they use that bandwidth for Netflix or anything else it doesn't make a difference.
If ISP's can't keep up, then that's their fault for being unable to render the service paid for by the user.

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>brainwashed by the left-wing net-neutrality propaganda
absolute state of clapistan

Netflix doesn't just send people data. ISP customers request the data using the service they are paying for. Also, data caps are unethical and are only necessary if an ISP massively oversells a connection. The answer isn't to let them cap data, but to demand they upgrade their infrastructure. Data caps should not be legal.

>Getting Netflix without it counting towards your cap
Who would want this? It would create an environment where new video services couldn't compete with Netflix, increasing their monopoly power.

What I want is higher data caps, so I can use the bandwidth for whatever services I choose.

so glad i don't have a data cap
i seed a ton of torrents, so if i left my computer completely unattended i would still be uploading at least 25TB/month

I live in fucking Australia and unlimited has been the mainstream for years now, where do you live that data caps still exist?

need to breakup the rich and the problem will resolve itself

You're forgetting the demand. High demand with low supply means higher prices, not lower. For prices to be lower the supply needs to be higher in this vaccum scenario.

Do you also fight with your toll road when you can't go at 90 because of a traffic jam? It's the same principle. They can offer highers speed to anyone because it wasn't anticipated at the time that people would actually be able to use it 100%.

>Do you also fight with your toll road when you can't go at 90 because of a traffic jam?
There's a difference between road bandwidth being physically limited by the space they can build a road on and internet bandwidth being limited by your ISP not wanting to cut into profits by upgrading their dying coax infrastructure.

>le series of tubes
Kys you fucking brainlet

ISP should change their plans if they cant offer service at the bandwidth they sell. They would just increase prices of high bandwidth plans. No need to have priorities which would be hard because it is hard to know what kind of content people download. You can guess easily if it is video, online game or something else but it is not accurate and guessing the rest is vague. dns over tls or vpn makes it even harder. Privacy consern if you have to tell your ISP what your doing so they can throttle. Users and ISP will balance it out unless the ISP is all about the bottom line.

>American ISP's
Lmao.

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Finally, someone who gets it!

Why not zero datacaps?

>Do you also fight with your toll road when you can't go at 90 because of a traffic jam?
Generally speaking, if a toll road is consistently in the state of being a traffic jam, they add more lanes, or even build another toll road.
Almost every road in my home town has had additional lanes added to them in the last 5 years.

>data cap
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>In backwards NZistan
>Uncapped gigabit fiber available in most areas now
Get your shit together amerifats

How is your shit connection Netflix's fault?

Netflix isn't hogging bandwidth. Each of their individual customers are. The network doesn't get worse because all customers use a single streaming service.

Does Netflix really use more bandwidth than Youtube?
I mean YT is free and everyone and their mother is watchin it everyday.

Caps are made by assholes

>Politicians funded by big corporations won't break up big corporations
How surprising

data cap is a scam made up by internet companies to milk you for more money.

a shithole called USA

80% of america has unlimited bandwidth only cell phones have a cap ussally