Makes Jow Forums seethe with rage just by being mentioned

>makes Jow Forums seethe with rage just by being mentioned
Heh, nothing personnel, kid.

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It only makes c++ tards seethe, because it makes their language fucking obsolete as it has tons of libraries and can be optimized to run at almost native c speeds.

>tries to introduce new design paradigms and ways to look at problems
>violates their own paradigms on a daily basis, solves old problems the same way everyone else has with shittier syntax

That's why I dislike python.

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Shit bait.

Your statements are so vague, that they unironically apply to every programming language.

Nothing is better at web scraping/web bots.

>responds anyway

this. i wrote a python scraper just yesterday and its so easy to get working

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

LOOK AT THIS SLOW DUDE

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Other languages are better at sticking to a belief system. The "Pythonic" way is a few steps from the "JavaScript" way. But at least JavaScript admits a lot of the legacy structures suck dick and they just made up shit as they went along.

Python fanboys make crappy threads like this because they have no idea how much their language sucks despite it sharing core philosophies with legacy js by lacking a consistent belief system.

Python lives for "this is the pythonic way of solving this problem... but since figuring out if you're being ran from a console or not is hard, we decided to do ignore those rules for a second"

"Phythonic" means "code only a Python programmer could love".

Eat shit.

>python is slow as shit
more at 11

>be me
>have to write a one-use script for some bullshit at work
>write it in 15min using Python
>Jow Forums would rather I take 4 hours to write it in assembly so it will run 300ms faster

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>oh i'll just use python for X, it won't hurt, performance doesn't matter
>later:

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>Python's niche is being slightly better than a bash script
Cool programming language you got there. Want to bring it to the White House?

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this.

Are you guys even working on legit applications with thousands of lines of code where speed makes a difference or are you sperging about that 1 extra second that will take your shitty script to run ?

>tens of millions of CPU cores
LMAO PYTHON

uhh...?

That's why you do your math calculations with Numpy.

>this is why you call C from python
we know

"Optimised Python" is an oxymoron.

Yeah, so?

"Optimized Python" is using modules written in different languages.

So you might as well use another language to begin wtih.

*personal

you're illiterate, hence you use python.

>It uses core Python data structures for Mandelbrot

Fucking kek, this works fine as a baseline benchmark, but literally everyone in the real world will be using Numpy.

>Python is great and it isn't slow at all when it's calling C
Com'on you're so close to self awareness.

Then it's not Python, is it.

bash doesn't have numpy or pandas, or beautifulSoup or a lot of other things

>You cannot use the best of both languages in your programs, that's cheating!!11!1!!!

more like poothon

lol

Bash doesn't have Excel either, but you've put Python on the same tier for usefulness.

Bash can pipe C programs together, which is basically what Python is used for.

Since you can inline assembly in C for performance-sensitive things, you're not really writing C and might as well just write the whole thing in assembly, right?

Stop posting bait.

How often do you see inline assembly in modern code?

It kinda is. No one thinks Kotlin or Groovy are their own language. They're all compiled to JVM code. Is python it's own language or just a bunch of hacks incoherently written in other languages and joined by Python? If true, that's application orchestration, not programming.

yep, python is the best for quick scripts. i just wrote a script that encodes my entire flac library to opus without fucking up metadata.

C compiles turns to assembly and then machine code. So C allows you to kick out the floor boards and hit assembly by hand.

There's no similar analogy for regular Python.

>c
>modern code

>9001 lines of incoherent diarrhea code
>or a bash 1 liner
hmm, tough choice

So python is just for people who don't know how to use pipes?

The point is C is not Python, you fucking tards.

If Python was written to transpile to C, it might actually be good...

>If true, that's application orchestration, not programming.
I see Python that way. It gets the job done anyways, which is the important thing in most cases. Obviously when performance matters is when inefficiency snowballs through dependencies, and that's where you have to consider double check your performance, and if necessary using a compiled programming language. In other cases, you're well doing a quick script, include a couple of libraries that have already taken care of performance issues, make sure it works and call it a day or move on to your next project.

>9001 lines of incoherent diarrhea code
how do you fuck up so bad? python is easy as balls and clean as long as you use list comprehensions.

Python isn’t slow you just suck fight me right fucking now faggo

while I am not a Winjeet, I do think Excel is pretty based and useful desu. you sound like a NEET desu. python can do way more than excel btw

imagine being so brain dead that you use Python lmao

Why does python look like a swastika?

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OP here, how the fuck does this bait still work so well after years?

Python keeps getting more popular.

What languages do you include in the former category?
I hope you don't think pointer decay is an elegant construct, right?

Exactly what Cython is