Starlink

Starlink space-based low-latency gigabit internet is coming soon. pic is the first payload of many; 60 starlink satellites. Launch is on Wednesday.

Would you pay for it? how much?

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here's how it works with a handful. final constellation will consist of 12,000 or so satellites.

youtube.com/watch?v=J6HYiYPlSHE

>low-latency
Compared to what?

less than current wired. 47ms to London from New York

Let me guess, 47ms under perfect conditions: no clouds, perfect alignment, no other traffic.

The phased array ground station units are pretty resilient to weather. And traffic won’t be that much of an issue; each sat can do 20gbps of throughput, and the initial customer base will be in underserved rural areas - not cities, where the pipes will get clogged

Another interesting benefit is apparently each bird has a camera onboard. That’s 12,000 (eventually) additional earth sensing optics for use in whatever fields need it

copper/fiber for life

>for use in whatever fields need it
Welp, there goes my "me going out ever again"

it's so pretty

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> satellite internet
> low latency
Pick one
> would you pay for it
No.
> how much
zero dollars you musk dick sucker

That sounds pretty cool, but I don't see this having any advantage over my 1Gbps fiber connection.

it's LEO/MEO. Not hughesnet shittyness. They were playing CSGO over the two Tintin test satellites between hawthorn and Redmond - works fine. The math checks out youtu.be/QEIUdMiColU

yeah. you're not the initial customer base. Initially they only want 10% of the ISP market, places with old copper or no wired at all

Another huge initial customer base could be businesses looking for a failover connection that's totally independent of their wired infrastructure and isn't shit like geo sat is.

doubtfull since even a thunderstorm that is sperging some thousands of km away can disrupt communications a bit

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You fucking guessed it.
Clients will be trading robots.

Presuming it's unlimited I'd pay about 120 USD a month for it.
It's going to be way more than that

We're entombing ourselves on our planet in order to download blacked porn on our iPhone 14XLs faster

Keep sucking the dick of ISP monopolies that charge 100$ for sub 10Mbps

Latency is the key.

but I got Gigabyte for 50 €bucks.

My dream life in the middle of the ocean can become a reality by the time i'm 50 then. Great news.

more space debris huh
thanks i hate it

So, what are we talking about? like 200 launches of this shit?
Be prepared for multiple launches a week.

LEO satellites will naturally decay, so I guess the plan is just to launch moar when that happens.

>naturally decay
in what 15 years time?

I think it's a few years at 550km.

I want to crowdfund and launch a satellite into space fitted with high intensity mirrors with the sole intention of destroying 95% of all other satellites.
12,000 FUCKING satellites.
There's so much space junk.
All because of consumerism.
We don't need satellite internet. We don't need Indians launching shit satellites into space. We need a clean space for the future. Idiots today are ruining it.

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>not geosynchronous

>We need a clean space for the future.
armored spacecraft and in space ship building

lizard-tail.com/isana/lab/orbital_decay/

hm, it is longer, how much do those things weigh? less than a 100kg my bet

1.) It is armour not armor.
2.) Armour adds to the weight of the launch which will result in a smaller payload.

When you think about it, even 12000 satellites evenly distributed in LEO are not a concern at all.
They'll be thousands of kilometers apart.

The important part is, if it's a commercial failure, it won't stay up there, like Iridium.

etymonline.com/search?q=armor
you may fuck off now.

Every bit of space junk is cause for concern.

>1.) It is armour not armor.
Stop using letters that you aren't pronouncing.

The real concerning space junk is loose bolts and shit you can't track.
And they're out there.
This is no concern at all.

Only american retards would consider blowing billions for space garbage.

Makes sense your shithole is about to go bankrupt.

A lot of people care about clean skies and their kids being able to see the stars when they grow up.

Both are ok. Unless you are some uptight conservative who thinks that he's thinking is always right and that is the end of discussion.

Dude, this is not spacejunk at all.
In fact, tracking is part of their functionality.
12000 is fucking nothing compared to all the shit early astronauts 'lost' in EVA.

I hope this is banned in my country and most of the world so it dies away as a burgerland-only gimmick. Filling space with junk. Brilliant. Lets cause a kepler syndrome just because few texan rednecks want internet for incest porn but there's no infrastructure laid down in their desert wasteland.

Things break. All 12,000 of these satellites have the potential of becoming even more fragmented. Could easily break into millions of small bits over time.

To make matters worse falling debris could impact cities.

They are literally putting up asteroids up there, thousands of them.

>people thinking space clutter is an unsolvable problem which will wall us in

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Go do the calculations for how big one would have to be in order to not burn up in re-entry based upon the velocity it will be going and materials.
There's nothing to worry about on the front of shit hitting cities.

The light in fiber doesn't actually travel at the speed of light. But for the satellites it does since they work with regular lasers.

This will be especially good for longer distances.

sciencealert.com/a-russian-startup-wants-to-put-advertising-in-low-earth-orbit-ruin-the-sky-for-everybody

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all middle east, india, pacific ocean, carribeans, part of south america, various off griders, boaters
I don't know, there is definitely a market for the thing. Real hard to estimate how big, it will depend now what device is needed to access it, if it works from a normal phone they will be richest ISP in the world.

based

Ok you all thinking this shit will make space un-available for some reason.
No.

Planetes was a great anime, but come the fuck on be realistic.

I think it's supposed to work from a normal phone.
Wavelenght are small enough that a chip can has 3 antennas for triangulation inside it.
But they'll be a different race of phones, and they won't compatible with 5g.

I had to have satellite internet when I was living in rural farmland Australia
It was fucking garbage, so I wouldn't use this if you paid me

Will it work on places like north Korea?

>aren't

user follow your own advice

>adblocks bad
>spaceads bad

Shitty clickbait. Could you at least use your brain for 3 seconds?

Have you ever tried to look at the ISS with the naked eye? Despite its large size it appears almost no bigger than a fucking point. And it's only visible for a few seconds before it leaves the sky. And this one will be in an even higher orbital plane if its in GEO or sun synchronous orbit.

Not to mention it's gonna need one heck of a power source to keep that thing bright enough. It just can't be done with batteries and solar panels alone.

So yeah this thing would require dozens of launches costing up to hundreds of millions if not billions. It would only be visible at night and its battery will be empty within a year.

Might as well do a promo stunt sending something to the moon or even Mars at this point.

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Maybe if you could smuggle a base station and somehow pay for the internet while living there? If you can do that you should move to a better place though.

>low-latency
[X] DOUBT

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Technically yes as long as you have a ground reciever. But I'm sure it's also possible to block people based on location. It's not like places like China don't have ways to pressure Elon from disallowing connections from their territory. "If you don't we won't allow you to sell your Teslas in China anymore."

Light is faster in a vacuum than it is in a cable. About twice even. The longer the distance the better the latency compared to cable or fibre.

stupid idea
wouldn't pay a cent

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Hard to know if someone sends and receives low amount of data from space. To prevent China has to block their space(/air) space. Even that is not enough they cant block waves, they could use jamming which really isnt feasable.

It is the end of the great firewall of china. All phones can connect so no searches for equipment. They could force everyone to use spyware fested hardware/software and ban everything else then harsh enforcement.

First I'd let söygoys and coping EU """"""""""pro gamers""""""""""" who'd sacrifice their own mothers to play on NA with low ping buy it.
It it works I'll consider it.

You're retarded. Current satellite is only bad now because it's low and usually goes out of it's way to travel to shitty towers

Do not support criminals.

Well the satellites know their own location, so they could pressure Elon to disallow connection if it's in their airspace. It's rough method so I'm not sure how well that would work out, but not impossible.

>space-based
>low-latency
I don't believe it.

way better than traditional satellites we were using 10000 pingz in greenland

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I counted 10 satellite crashes on that video.

I guess that's one way to incite the civilian level spaceship industry, manned and unmanned depending on lunacy level, to engage in an advanced form of gypsy scrap-warfare on satellites in order to bring them down to Earth and sell off the valuables for moni.

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The EU is never going to allow something like this to enter the market. Only amerifats are stupid enough to fall for such tricks.

>who'd sacrifice their own mothers to play on NA
We are not interested in playing with EL ABOMINACION though, you circumutts are bigger cancer than even Russians.

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What the EU wants and does not want is completely irrelevant.

Solar powered shitposting shack with mini desalination station feeding a series of hydroponic LED grow light farms
100m snorkel to siphon clean air into a compressor for indoor positive air pressure rust prevention
in international waters so I can post my sick and twisted porn where they [spoiler]hold hands[/spoiler] with impunity from the law

do you understand scale?

>launch into space more shit
>instead throwing money to develop data teleportation so it can be used commercially
epic

cyberpunk dream come true

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Edgy but dumb. Musk has signaled that SpaceX will respect the wishes of space capable countries concerning the availability of Starlink in those countries.

>I want to crowdfund and launch a satellite into space fitted with high intensity mirrors with the sole intention of destroying 95% of all other satellites.
I would fund that.

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This, the average Jow Forums user is fucking retarded

>you circumutts
I'm EU, but thanks for asking.
>We are not interested
"We" as like you hard-stuck low MMR/ELO shitters? You can play anywhere it won't matter. People playing in highest tiers of competitive games are playing with americans, 150ms ping be damned.

I have 1Gbps for €31/$35 monthly here, unlimited of course.

Have fun in your "first world country". :')

You're talking about Kessler syndrome. This isn't a problem in the very low orbit these satellites occupy. Without any action, these will deorbit on their own on a reasonable timescale. Kessler syndrome is something that happens when you pack tons of shit into a stable orbit. These are too low to cause a long term problem.

Enjoy having your daughter raped because she showed skin in public.

>People playing in highest tiers of competitive games are playing with
East Asians.
You can go be butthurt someone else about your inferiority now.

>I already got fast internet therefore you should stop launching satellites to compete with the established companies acting on your territory
Interesting proposition.

Gig fiber here in South Carolina

That's how it would look like if each satellite had a diameter of 130 kilometers.
Yes, I did the math.
Actually they're a few meters in diameter.

It is hilarious how wrong you are, even if I would have a daughter.

That's not what I was saying, I just posted how cheap high-speed internet is in a yuropean country in reply to some user that stated that ISP's charge 100$ for sub 10Mbps where he lives.

The botnet is real.

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I'm not a negro.

I for one am stoked, we only get about 2mbit where my parents live in NW Ontario and I think that is shared with their neighbors. Also I love going camping I. The most remote locations and would love to have internet while doing so. Maybe I'll become a Skype engrish teacher

I remember doing the math on expected costs, number of users and payoff time and it worked out to around $75 each person per month which is quite fine by me. I could even live with hughesnet if it were unlimited. I don't play online games

Y’all who are worried about junk are retarded, the FCC has requirements for deorbiting and all other stuff. Iirc the lifespan of one of these sats is 5 years

>We're entombing ourselves
We're not you retarded redditor alarmist faggot. You've been watching too many youtube videos from e-celebs.