Can this normie meme please fucking die? What's so bad about working extra when you're a 20 something with nothing better to do? I could do so much awesome stuff at work but I have to keep apearences and go home in time, only to sit in front of my TV and play gran turismo. This is why the Chinese are getting ahead of Western countries. Fuck this lazy culture.
Work hour flexibility should go both ways. If I want to arrive at 6AM and go home at 10PM I should be free to do so.
(This assuming you get paid overtime or get paid according to your advancements and you actually learn/create stuff at work)
>I have to keep apearences and go home in time, only to sit in front of my TV and play gran turismo maybe address your shit life instead of pushing it upon others
Nathan Ward
Just take a vacation.
Camden Edwards
Once you're 50 they'll fire you and get two 25 yo retards that works double hours for half the pay.
Josiah Young
>nothing better to do
Don't you have friends, OP? A family? Any relationships?
>8 hours work >1 hour break >2 hours gym >2 hours commute >8 hours sleep Wow, 3 hours free time per day! I wish I had less time in exchange for more money for Mr Schlomo
Ryan James
Nobody is falling for your Jewish tricks. Any time I spend at work is time not spent watching anime.
Robert Hill
Do you spend 2 hours a day in the gym? Why?
Juan Scott
Because I have to? Humans need at least 10 hours of exercise per week or your test levels drop, and a bunch of other health issues start creeping up.
Oliver Harris
>waste the best years of your life, physically and mentally (20-40 as a male) working at a job Hello mr. goldshekel
Jayden Ross
>you're a 20 something with nothing better to do?
Literally the time of your life where you want to work as little as fucking possible and experience the good shit in life.
>Humans need at least 10 hours of exercise per week or your test levels drop, and a bunch of other health issues start creeping up. thats some serious bro-science
are you implying if you dont go to the gym you'll be obese? just stop eating too much saves you time and money
Benjamin Scott
Literally google it I didn't believe him either but I typed "10 hours of exercise per week" and it came up with a bunch of studies on how 6-12 hours of exercise per week reduces risk of such-and-such chronic illnesses. "Test levels" is obvious broscience but the other part looks to be legit
Colton Price
see the thing is i'm at the point in my physical condition where moving the mouse a little too fast or starting to type really fast in discord chats is pretty hard cardio for me
Easton Reed
I do 30 min cycling a day + two lifting sessions a week and I'm absolutely fine.
Benjamin Cruz
I got literally 10 pages of untrustworthy tabloids and "experts claim"
Blake Russell
12-16 of moderate, 6-8 of vigorous. Aka 12-16 hours of 50-70% max heart rate or 6-8 hours of 70-85% max heart rate. My city has absolute shit tier traffic (The average speed at rush hour is 20-25kph) but decent enough bike ways. So although it adds about 30% to the length of my trip, I'm able to bike to work faster than driving while getting my exercise.
Austin Hill
I got a tabloid with a link to a fucking Nature article, so it seems at least somewhat legit I'd post a link but apparently Nature is spam. Thanks Hiroshima.
William Hughes
then either look for an employer that grants you those daily hours for personal learning or learn at home like most people do. I'm positive you haven't even had a meeting with your boss to talk about your idea.
Hunter Peterson
The metareview that the dailymail mentions is pretty easy to track down doi: doi.org/10.1136/bmj.i3857
Brody Foster
Oh, a correlation = causation study, well I'm convinced
Brandon Mitchell
hours commute move closer to work, there is almost no excuse for this if you don't have kids
Kevin Cook
I basically told him that I don't have either a partner or children and I'm fine with working long hours to finish projects faster. But I still feel the pressure of leaving at 6PM.
Julian Edwards
Pretty much this. Once you get burned out it takes a long time to recover. More time than a shitty 2 week long vacation, really.
I get what youre talking about though, OP. Some weekends I wish I could go back to work because there's literally nothing going on in my life at that moment. It's where I'm the most sociable and the most efficient. But I've seen first hand what too much work does to you. When you get into the "there's nothing going on in my life so I'd rather work" mentality over a couple years it impossible to get out of, and it puts stress on other aspects of your life. I dont even need to bring up personal stories, just look at Japan. 6 day work weeks, do all those extra hours make them incredibly more efficient nowadays? Fucking nope.
>2 hours/day at the gym What do you do there? Go on your phone and waste space?
Carter Carter
your personal goals are making someone else rich?
Gavin Rogers
Just stay at work then, if the last one leaving your office asks why you're still here say you "only have to finish this last thing". Depending on your location you also have to think of some laws, if I work more than 10h a day I'm not insured by my workplace anymore. >move closer to work not that user but most big cities are like that. my commute by car is 18miles and takes an hour in rush-hour traffic, 30min without it. My coworkers who live in the city need 20-30min per subway and an hour per car. Also rent would be 300-500€ more.
Thomas Cooper
I get paid overtime and also rather substantial bonuses for projects. Last year I made double my wage in bonuses.
Austin Anderson
did your boss give you a pat on the head too?
Carter Martinez
Checked and yes. I masturbate at night thinking about how my boss takes advantage of me. I imagine his fat, sweaty, small-fingernailed hand holding my face in the pillow while telling me I have to work again on Saturday.
Robert Taylor
Double of minimum wage is still shit.
Brody Rogers
If you really are dead set on working so much then just create a business yourself. It's the only way working so many hours actually means something and you can enjoy the fruits of your labor directly instead of 20 tiers of management taking their slice from your pie.
My direct boss is the CEO. Got a lot of back pats when we completed our first project for a large mining company, around $850k for 2 months development time with my 4 people team.
Brayden Sanchez
You probably got a nice $50 iTunes gift card for your hard work! Way to go buddy!
Lucas Collins
>Got a lot of back pats fuck that made me laugh
Elijah Ward
maybe he'll let you move out of the servants quarters and let you sleep on the floor in the master bedroom next to the dogs
I have a girlfriend I like to spend time with, and I enjoy hobbyist computing. We each work about 30-40 hours a week. I make $12/hr and she makes $10/hr. Our combined incomes are more than enough for our apartment, utilities, food, car, and other shit. And there's plenty left over.
There is literally no reason to work more than 40 hours if you live with someone else. Get a girlfriend or a roommate.
What else am I supposed to call it? Professional ricing? Fuck off.
Joshua Green
well at least that sounds appropriately pathetic
James Clark
>20 something with nothing better to do? remember this post when you're old. lmfao
Austin Ross
with that kind of money you could almost buy your youth back... almost.
Wyatt Ramirez
Don't work in tech. I'm a self employed electrician and only work the days that I choose to. I usually only work 3 days a week, the rest of my time is spent with my wife, or friends, or composing and playing music.
Jackson Reed
dork, your career is nothing more than a hobby to somebody else. let that sink in for a minute and then kys.
>your career is nothing more than a hobby to somebody else what does that mean
Jace Brown
>self employed electrician based. i'm a self employed painter. i work 5-6 days a week but all i really do is drive around in a van drinking beer and listening to infowars.
Colton Rodriguez
You're finna die at 50 due to a heart attack, and your cortisol levels are gonna be off the chart. Chill out
Grayson Gonzalez
>This is why the Chinese are getting ahead of Western countries. >(This assuming you get paid overtime or get paid according to your advancements and you actually learn/create stuff at work)
Jeremiah Wood
25 mins cardio, 1 1/2 hours weightlifting
>doing things to make you live longer will make you live less long 1984 brainwashing here
Nathan Edwards
Because I want to exercise and have a proper rest. Sitting all day in front of a computer is fucking cancer.
Nathan Sanchez
Why should we be responsible for the pressure you're putting on yourself to conform? Why do all the rest of us need to work huge amount of hours to make you feel good about yourself being a boring person with no friends or hobbies?
You want us to man up - it seems like you're the one who can't man up to me.
Thomas Gutierrez
Start a company.
Cameron Foster
Strenuous exercise wears your body out. The minimum to keep your body functioning is much less than 2 hours a day at the gym
Elijah Brown
That makes it even worse. Taking a long break after getting burn out generally makes you never again want to experience burnout. Been doing my masters for 3 semesters now and after every single semester I get burnout and never want to go back, especially after summer holiday. Can't imagine experience that 5 days a week from work year in, year out. I've pretty much entirely embraced the idea of living at home and working part time. Stress is a void that sucks away your humanity, and anyone in a position to avoid it should do so.
Gabriel Peterson
>with nothing better to do? speak for yourself, retard
Ethan Price
Wrong, the body is a living organism that responds to stimuli. Would a person be smarter if they never used their brain? Would someone have good eyesight if they covered their eyes most of the time? Notice the healthiest people are the ones that use their bodies.
James Murphy
>when you're a 20 something >with nothing better to do?
Oxymoron
Grayson Perry
You can wear your brain out by overworking it, and you can wear your eyes out by straining them Althletes tend to age like shit Not that 2 hours a day at the gym is neccessarily going to make you age like shit, but it's kind of bullshit to assume you always need to be active to remain healthy
Brody James
Question, what if you get paid while doing your own work?
Jeremiah Collins
If you're in your 20s and need gym to stay in shape you're living your life wrong.
I was so active in my 20s, just constantly on the move, hiking, dritbikes, offroading, cycling that I was ripped and skinny and day was too short for everything I wanted to do. Could not imagine wasting precious two hours staring at walls in gym.
Jackson Garcia
>athletes age like shit Double think central. Did you read that on your fat acceptance blogs?
Carson Nguyen
That would take way longer to do than going to the gym. Also, there's no walls at a gym. There's mirrors and windows.
I know alot of them and when they get old they become wrinkled with joint problems (and fat when they stop working out), not to mention they're always injuring themselves from overexertion Funny you don't seem to hear about that in the media
Benjamin Moore
>the media >I know people You sound exactly like a fat acceptance landwhale. Enjoy your lifetime of obesity, fatty. And try not to shit yourself with diet pills.
Only if you hate your job. I love my job and it actually takes stress out of my life when well done, so I make the extra effort. The best thing about it is that I am earning ~30€/h with it, so I am already in the higher income brackets than most.
Dylan Moore
where did I say anything about fat acceptance? I said strenuous exercise doesnt make you age well I'm sure it's good for your cardiovascular system, but it's not good for your joints, or your skin if you're doing it outside in the sun (probably not a concern for gymcels though)
Connor Diaz
>Humans need at least 10 hours of exercise per week or your test levels drop Probably pseudoscience, but I'll bite: It is completely enough to walk every day at a brisk pace for 1 hour. Going to the gym is for people who have more money than braincells who cannot figure out that you don't have to spend any money to exercise at all.
Charles Young
I chuckled and literally felt sick at the same time that the shit you are typing might actually have a chance at being a real belief.
Physical fitness is basically the ONLY thing that keeps you from aging.
Dominic Jones
How do you get muscular without a gym?
Jason Johnson
Walking for an hour is only fine if you do it every single day.
If you do actual training the benefits are lasting. Muscle mass acts like a barrier to aging.
Josiah Allen
and enjoy schizophrenia
Aiden Carter
pushup pullup bodyweight squats
The bare minimum req to getting ripped IMO is one of those doorjam pullup bars.
Jacob Perez
Another gymcel "expert opinion" from an American who only lives amongst fat people
Eli Miller
OK so how do you lift more if your bodyweight is too easy?
Leo Clark
My life consists of working and going home and programming more or playing video games. I don't do anything else. I bought a dirt bike recently but I've only taken it for a spin three times, now it's just rotting in the garage. How can I motivate myself to do something other than programming and videogames? Working out at the gym is the most excruciatingly boring thing ever.
Parker Gutierrez
I recovered from literally crippling arthritis by doing weight training.
For pushups you elevate your legs, for bodyweight squats you just use one leg, for pullups.... if its too easy you are already ripped.
Jeremiah Cruz
let me join in.
People eat too much which is why you would think people who use their bodies the most are healthiest. Fit people also often mind what they eat. Close to starvation with sufficient intake of nutrition is ideal.
If a fat guy exercises they break their bodies. Fat people cant activate their muscles as good as low fat people. Fat also gets stored in your muscles and fat blocks right posture.
Then there are people who are skinny and have wrong posture. Exercise would be damaging and inefficient way to become healthier. First they should fix their postures. It is common to have shoulders stuck. They should start by stretching shoulders.
You cant sell small proportion meals and stretching because even if you did the people would also buy other food. Which is why this is almost never seen in the media. One other good reason could be that this would lower consumption and make people healthier and that would mean all other "healthy" practises would lose their mojo.
Michael Collins
>I recovered from literally crippling arthritis by doing weight training. that's wonderful, many more people fuck their joints up later in life by playing sports
Justin Martinez
>start by stretching Fucking lol'd. Stretching does nothing you asshat, your body goes back to normal in like a day.
Also fat people are fucking jacked from carrying all that weight, they literally only need to change their diet.
Stretching is literally fucking retarded.
Levi Myers
Also I shouldn't say it does nothing because it actually weakens your muscles and makes it easier to injure yourself. >sports Yes, and physical therapy is how you repair them. Not by avoiding using it and walking around on a fucking walker.
Jose Ross
>Chronically injure yourself but it's okay because you can go to physical therapy! How about not overexerting yourself in the first place
Easton Clark
dude im not advocating "stretching" the media pushes. Im advocating losing weight then doing daily 1min stretches when it feels right. If you got right posture you dont know what im talking about. Projection.
Oliver Nelson
You're just a tool wasting your life to corporate overlords. Life is beatiful, meaningful, philosophical, yet you sit at an office clacking away at worthless projects nobody really uses.
Josiah Smith
I'm not projecting.
Stretching of literally any kind is counter-productive to physical health.
I'm literally telling you that it makes you temporarily prone to injury and doesn't increase your physical strength or ability in any way.
Its stupid shit from antiquated sports medicine idiots.
Jeremiah Ramirez
If you don't go to the gym, you won't be healthy. Eating healthy alone does not make you healthy.
Lincoln Wood
Completely the opposite of true. Eating healthy is the only thing that makes you healthy. But that doesn't make money, you make alot more money selling people fattening addictive food and then selling them gym passes and equipment telling them that's how they're gonna work it off
Isaiah Thomas
>Eating healthy alone does not make you healthy.
Especially if you listen to stupid shit like the food pyramid that tells you to get like half of your calories from fucking grains or that fat from meat is bad lmfao.