Im a complete illiterate about audio and stuff, and I'm a complete tool sheep-head, so I bought a Sansa Clip + and a pair of Tin T3 for my daily use. What the fuck should I do now? I have installed Rockbox on my Sansa, but what now? Should I look for some "good EQ preset" on the internet or should I just play around with some random EQ and getting used to?
What's the point of the Sansa? It supposed to sound better by default than, for example, a flagship smartphone + Spotify in extreme quality? Or should I EQ my Sansa first before getting any gains from it in comparison than a default smartphone+spotify? If this, then where the fuck can I find some tutorial about how to properly EQ my Sansa and "which sound" should I just aim for? Or using a Sansa+Rockbox+default EQ should be far better experience than the other setup? I'm sorry for being a brainlet, but I guess you guys can help me with this desinformation.
sorry but sansa clip+ isn't a great music player. yes it used to be when you could get one for ~$30 but now they are like three times that price for a used one. plus at the time that they came out they were one of the few music players that could play vorbis or ogg files after you put rockbox on it.
bottom line sansa clip use to be a good buy, nowadays it generally isnt
John Long
The point of having a PMP is to have a dedicated music playing device that has a great battery life. That sansa is on par (maybe slightly better) than your phone. You can fuck with the EQ, but what audiophools call "sound signature" depends entirely on the device's Digital to Analog Converter, you can just change the frequency response with the EQ. You can install comfy themes on it tho
every album in general has a prefferable EQ still, it depends strongly on the individual who's listening to the music (if you can't hear frequencies above say 12 kHz theres no point in having them, if you are sensitive to frequencies in range of 2,5 kHz up to 4 kHz it would be prefferable for you to just tone them down for 2~3 decibels) that's really the only reason someone wouls buy a rockbox-able pmp, if you wanted quality you would've bought a zishan
Matthew Harris
Most daps nowdays have shit battery life. "Flagships" dont go past 10h playback most of the time. I dont agree with it, just pointing out that dap industry changed fits focus.
Carter Reed
>if you wanted quality you would've bought a zishan There is nothing quality about zishan. It actually has the same issue with noise that op ia talking about you clueless brainlet.
Sebastian Long
Your clip comes with the ideal eq preset. It's called "flat". Enjoy setting everything up perfectly only to find the device inexplicably failing to power on in 2 years time.
Kayden Thomas
"""""Flagship""""" DAPs are just low end android phones but with a nicer DAC and fancy materials, no shit their battery can't last for consecutive days far from the charger as my iPod video does Also, it has the power of the 30 pin connector, so I can basically dock it in to charge and also play music trough speakers
A lot of autists forget the next step, enjoy and listen to your music.
Jose Rodriguez
is this the /pmp/t thread? any rockboxed benjie t6 users ITT?
Kevin Thomas
OP here. To be fair I bought mine when they were around 30usd too. I'm currently using a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s + a cracked Spotify with premium quality to play most of my music, just because I like to find new stuff from it. The idea of using my Sansa Clip+ again was because I thought that maybe using Rockbox could bring better quality in term of fidelity than using my smartphone. I guess that today are better options to play music than my old Sansa or even my smartphone, but considering than a flagship smartphone maybe could play any music format nowday without a problem (I don't know if this is true tho, I'm just speculating), which are the benefits of having a dedicated music device atm? Better "fidelity"? (I don't even know what this means), better "noise reduction"? If so, which ones should be worth the upgrade from my smartphone? (Ideally a budget one, >100usd maybe?).
Do you still use your Sansa? Or do you buy another DAP?
Ian Garcia
>not modding an old ipod and putting a fuckhuge chink battery in it so you can get 200hr playback on a single charge never gonna make it
Nolan Garcia
I never had one, I've been using a 2nd gen iPod Nano while my iPod Video parts come from China
Anthony Gutierrez
The point of the Sansa clip is that it's an ipod the size of an ipod shuffle with zero drawbacks that lets you swap storage
You use it to listen to music you autist
Nathan Young
Dedicated devices are important because you have a physical interaction with them that is unique to the role they play. This is why dedicated game systems and music players continue to exist even though companies just rebrand their smartphones to do it
Yeah, it's useful and convenient that your phone can do it too, but it's even more convenient to have a dedicated device you aren't already using for something else because I does everything
Chase Howard
But I'm talking about sound quality mostly. Of course that it's convenient to use a smartphone for everything, but I'll not use my smartphone if I have a better device in hand to do the work but with better results. That's why I'm just asking, in terms of quality, does it matter if I just use my smartphone as my music device instead of a Sansa Clip+? Both seems to being able to manage good quality formats, so I don't see a better gain if I switch to my Sansa.
the advantages of sansa clip: >tiny as fuck, weighs nothing >rockbox UI is snappier and boots faster than any PMP software >rockbox supports opus/flac for space/audiophile autism >microsd slot so you can put everything you've ever listened to on a new 1TB card in flac. >screen is as big as it needs to be for scrolling to an album/playlist, hitting play, and pocketing it >no touchscreen horseshit >battery lasts an entire day+ of continuous play, or an entire week of sporadic use there's really nothing else that hits all of those marks.
Jeremiah Sanders
forgot to mention the disadvantages: >not water proof. had a screen die in my pocket due to sweat on a hike (use the clip if you're exercising) >audio quality is acceptable to good
it's not an audiophile device. it's an extremely portable device great for listening to things outside without lugging your fucking phone inside light pockets. and nothing beats it in that regard. but going over the pros and cons reminds me that i want to try and seal the edges of mine somehow to see if i can protect it from water damage.
Gabriel Jones
Battery is shit. 10 pathetic hours max. After my everyday trip from home and back I was left with 45% and it wasn't enough for tomorrow, so I had to charge it along with my phone anyway. What's the point then?
Carson Cruz
go to rebbit if you want handholding, nigger.
Juan Hill
these are old, out of production devices that are bought used or "new in box". my clip zip gets 20+ hours easily but that doesn't mean yours does. sorry bud.
Adam Diaz
Begone, normalfaggot.
Blake Watson
You don't have to use an equalizer, I never do. The clip+ doesn't actually sound better than a smartphone but it's still cool as fuck.
Daniel Diaz
What do you buy now in a similar form factor with no regressions? The clip prices got jacked up because someone stopped making the chip it was based on and the later Sansas went backwards and the competitors were chinky trash. Has a new champion emerged?
Don't say phone.
Jose Parker
>audio quality is acceptable to good I bet my ass you wouldn't be able to hear the difference between your autistic "audiofile" setup and a Clip+ in a blind test.
Eli Foster
you're probably right. but i don't listen to my clip zip in silent rooms with audiophile headphones. i listen to it with shitty comfortable earbuds while i'm outside. so it doesn't matter.
still worth mentioning that it's not some magical audiophile device the size of a quarter.
Robert Phillips
Which current dispositive atm could replace a Sansa Clip+?
Jack Morales
benjie t6 sort of
Connor Peterson
I still have mine in my drawer, is it even worth using it today? I don't have any fancy headphones or anything just a pair of samsung and xiaomi ear pieces, why shouldn't i just use my trash phone and just listen though hacked spotify or poweramp?
Cooper Nguyen
>is it even worth using it today? nigger it's a device that plays music, simple as that. are you happy with your phone? >no use it >yes sell it for me using my phone instead of my dap is awkward as fuck but to each his own
Carter Turner
this shit looks great. Any reasons to upgrade my Sansa Clip+ into this? The bluetooth maybe? it's there any drawback?
Henry Myers
>Any reasons to upgrade my Sansa Clip+ into this? No, that isn't really an upgrade. >Battery life is like a third of a rockboxed clip+ battery life, even if the T6 is rockboxed as well >Rockbox doesn't support DSD or bluetooth, you need to use the original firmware to use these features >Plenty of units have dumb issues like pops/noise for some reason, if you're lucky and manage to get one in good shape then it's fine
Julian Hughes
>the tube Might recomend listening to Time Tourist next time you go anywhere with it?
If I would ever go to Nuketown ever again, this will be the fist thing I'm going to do
Has Rockbox even actually been ported yet? If this is the DAP I'm thinking of it was initially just an application running in the stock firmware
Anthony Gutierrez
i got my clip+ after i broke my sansa e280. i use it regularly at the gym, battery lasts ages, sound quality is good, weighs next to nothing and probably won't die if i drop it (haven't tried) the only good Jow Forums memes i fell for are the ones i fell for before coming to Jow Forums, and this is one
Jacob Sanders
can't imagine running with my phone
Nicholas Morgan
What would be the best gen ipod to do this to. I heard 5th gen ipod classic
The Hidizs AP80 is a really good sounding value player, even if the company support and cs is shit
Angel Taylor
>The point of having a PMP is to have a dedicated music playing device that has a great battery life. No, the point of having a PMP is to have a dedicated music playing device that's not also a personal tracking device. No wifi, no bluetooth, no gps, no botnets. Just music.
and a smol device with dedicated hardware buttons fuck giant touchscreen bricks
Xavier Fisher
>No, the point of having a PMP is to have a dedicated music playing device that's not also a personal tracking device That's the full sperg point. The actual point is having a dedicated device with hardware buttons and superior performance
Jonathan Campbell
fucking kek
Logan Reed
It is an upgrade to the Sansa? It looks neat tho.
Jose Peterson
My Clip Zip has a crackling sound now, probably the headphone jack is in the shitter? Any good alternatives came out recently? I mostly want it to go for a run or gym
Ian Parker
please don't tell em you bought a second hand one for triple the price, it totally misses the point of what made them so good. That being cheap as fuck and still good quality. Also 10 hours is still enough battery life for anything what are you even talking about. that battery will be years old by now, just buy another one online and install it yourself if charging once a day is too much of a chore for you.
Landon Turner
this but unironically. touchscreen just means less battery and using a tiny touch interface like that is no less cumbersome than using regular buttons.
Luis Scott
>buy a clip+ many years ago because Jow Forums autisim >go for my first run with it >catche and hip on the door as I'm walking outside and the clip snaps off
I bought one three years ago. It was like that from the beginning, and I put it in the drawer. Might as well sell it to some retard, I'm surprised people paying so much for the meme. >Also 10 hours is still enough battery life for anything Yeah. My phone can do that, and the only difference is you charge one device at the end of the day instead of two.
