ASUS vs MSI ?
Best motherboard brand
Ethan Taylor
Logan Ward
Both suck at the mid and bottom tier, bot are good on the high tier.
Gavin Gomez
Mid tier AMD MSI boards are actually great look at the b450 mortar etc
Xavier Allen
Do you like your twin 8 phase or a proper 12 phase?
Angel Williams
Depends.
Austin Richardson
Best brands based on mid ($130-$200) to high tier ($250+)
In order from best to worst based (consumer grade) on RMA % vs quantity sold, average phase, capacitors:
1: Asustek
2: Asrock (it is Asustek still)
3: Evga
4: Gigabyte
5: MSI
6: Biostar
Nolan Gonzalez
>considering MSI
Jack Watson
ASUS.
The x470 series mobos have properly implemented IOMMU groupings for GPU passthrough in virtualization.
Also above average VRMs for long term power stability and headroom for newer architectures.
MSI's x470s use a very underpowered VRM and they lie by saying it's twice the phases by using a digital duplicator.
This means unstable overclocking and possibly unable to use Ryzen 3k series.
Anthony Cruz
Supermicro, or Dell EMC/HPE/Lenovo Thinkstations
All consumer boards are trash, including Asrock rack and Asus server stuff
>ASUS.
>The x470 series mobos have properly implemented IOMMU groupings for GPU passthrough in virtualization.
So? Asus literally loads up a rootkit (armory crate or something) in their crosshair 7 motherboard. Shiggy diggy buying that shit.
Josiah Campbell
I should clarify digital voltage modulation isn't inherently bad but nothing replaces dedicated hardware (ie beefy mosfet rows).
Digital VRMS simplify design routing on the mobo, cooling, part selection, noise isolation, but are lazy for high end boards like x470
Alexander Murphy
As much as I would like to agree with you, in the consumer world, Supermicro never got a foothold because of phasing issues.
Supermicro and HP, however, dominate the server world. If anyone says otherwise, they are fucking retarded. A.k.a. your average Jow Forums browser.
John Stewart
Overall EVGA is the best because they never release trash and their high end stuff is pretty damn good. I guess from the other brands Asus is the best at the moment but they do release crap as well.
Hudson Martinez
Asus
Juan Mitchell
>Asus
>best budget board
What
Xavier Morris
>rootkit
>not usings terms properly
1. the software you arer implying is a rootkit is on a seperate cd for windows software
2. Lenovo the company you just suggested shipped a actual rootkit via superfish
Neither of which are at ring -3 on the hardware on Lenovo or ASUS so I don't understand
Jaxon Price
Asus twin 8 phase niggers
Gavin Nguyen
Overall XFX* is the best because they never release trash and their high end stuff is pretty damn good.
Carter Nelson
rog.asus.com
The 'feature' is baked into the BIOS. Have fun removing it BRO
Nathaniel Howard
>not knowing what the word budget means
>Thinking budget also means over $130
You're the problem with Jow Forums you fucking retard
Blake Edwards
Nice job repeating shit you don't know anything about.
>hur dur muh OEM spec page
Show me one real consumer board that uses 12 phases.
Every high end uses dual 8 phase with a boost converter.
You need to remove the heatsink and count every choke and mosfet and then read the data sheet for every single IC part number to verify that they actually can manage the voltages.
Just like this guy does
youtube.com
You will realize people like MSI and Asrock even use 4+2 phases and then a doubler IC and lie on their specs.
You're just a dumbfuck though.
Brandon Sanchez
It literally says lojax has been fixed via a update.
You also suggested lenovo when superfish exists so your fail on both points.
Kevin Ross
youtube.com
Wrong playlist it's this one.
I suggest you check out these videos and learn how to identify it yourself because there's no reviewers verifying boards you have to do it yourself because you can't trust the OEM.
Luke Gomez
Asus motherboards have no computrace in the first place. I am talking about something else entirely.
Lenovo Think lineup is segregated from the toxic consumer lineup. The think lineup does not have superfish.
You need to go back to
Andrew Brown
Read the post you linked too.
The artical they state in the first post shows the artical describing lojax planted by fancy bear the so called russian hacker.
They state in the same artical that Lojax can be patched via a update.
The reason i say that is
>"Have fun removing it BRO"
Now have fun moving goal posts BRO
Jack Baker
There is no best brand.
They're all cranking out as much shit as they are winners now.
Have to judge each product.
Kevin Sullivan
This
My x470 prime works flawlessly
Premium gigashit board had to be rebooted a random number of times before soundcard or any pci-e device besides GPU would be detected
Christopher Myers
Every EVGA product I have ever owned has failed under normal use for the record that would be 4 GPUs and 2 motherboards
Leo Taylor
Yes there is: Healthy boy brand
Wyatt Clark
>best brand
kill yourself brand loyalist
Look for the motherboard with the best VRM that is compatible with your CPU every PC build.
Charles Smith
where the fuck did you come up with this? MSI's B450 lineup has the best AM4 VRMs without hitting the ~$200 territory
Ryan Brown
>soundcard
Are we in 2002?
Cameron James
Imagine being this flustered. Twin 8 phase nigger. Enjoy being 10C hotter you shit slinging apple tier nigger. I'll enjoy my cool vrms