For desktop usage, should I pick arch or debian?(I don't care about other distros or forks of these)

For desktop usage, should I pick arch or debian?(I don't care about other distros or forks of these)

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Between those two
Debian

Debian if you are a complete dumbfuck. Arch if otherwise.

i've used both for many years
preferred neither over the other
currently on debian

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Arch
the Arch wiki is such a gold mine

>my distro is better because i own it
why is Jow Forums like this

Arch is basically all I have used for almost 10 years now. The documentation and aur always made me not even consider anything else. You barely notice your operating system anyway, you spend your time in applications which are the same across all the distros.
But that's on a laptop. Windows only for anything with a >Intel igpu

If you are an autist.

If all you're doing is normie shit like babbling on facebook and burning your retinas out with youtube, go with debian, because of its stability. If you're a developer, arch is going to be nice because the rolling release will give you the most up-to-date tools because of its rolling release. Other than that, consider them practically the same.

The wiki is still really useful even if you're not running Arch

Buddy, if you're using linux in any form other than on a server, you're an autist.

Debian just works.

other way around superiority complexed dipshit

Hello there! It looks like you want a system that you want to fully customize to your preferences, might I intrest you in installing gentoo?

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magnanimously based

rolling release twice oops

Wintoddler coping best he can.

Because a web browser is the ultimate test of stability

Toss a coin and pick the winner. If you are not satisfied with the results, go fuck yourself and put the coin on your butt.

not quite

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>schizo'ing such a low effort bait
debianloids in a nutshell

>1024x768
You can't afford a better monitor, user?

Jesus that's awful

Debian, since Ubuntu is based on it and the Ubuntu wiki is probably the best wiki you can get and you get all the Debian packages too.

>luke smith
>manjaro
>fish
>http
>1024x768
>chromium
you disgust me

What the fuck else do people do on computers? the chromebook proved that the average person can get by with only a web browser. Debian is considered very stable therefore I believe it would be a good choice for typical PC users who need to use linux for some unknown reason.

>1024x768
into the trash

>implying any wiki is better than the arch wiki

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ubuntu is bloat

>almost 2 jugs o' ram
>shitty low res to reduce ram usage
>not quite
kek

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thinkpad x61
>Some random person's choice of computing is enough to disgust you
onions

install debian better community support more stable more updated

Chromebooks run almost any app on the Google Play store.

and that changes the fact that average people only ever use the web browser how?

Thats correct that's why you just go straight to Debian and ignore canonical.

I've used both the last two years.

Debian has more modular packages, but you essentially pull the same dependencies in the end when installing software on both distros. Pacman is much faster, doesn't really matter though unless you update often. I've only managed to break Debian SID, Debian Testing/Arch has never broke with my setup. I think Arch is easier to set up thanks to them being more lenient on propriety drivers, I don't have to do extra steps to add reops. Also Debian install doesn't recognize my laptop's network card (Intel Dual-Band Wireless-AC 7260) which also makes it more tedious.

Basically, Arch is an easier time if you have propriety shit, if not it doesn't really matter.

it's a cheapo thinkpad for comfy shitposting, get a grip babyboy

The functionality was a hard sell until you could use apps. Most people I know that have chromebooks use apps regularly.

The good aspect of Debian is that it just werks. The bad aspect is that its package repository uses quite old packages, so if you want the latest updates on some programs you'll have to compile them for yourself.
I don't know about Arch, but Linux in general gives you headaches in the Wifi department when you try to configure it manually, so go with Debian if you are on a Laptop or go with Arch if you are on a Desktop, with a good Ethernet cable.

Also

im on lfs shit for brains, not a debian shill. dont you think out of choosing two braindead bloat distros with a shitty init youd want to choose the objectively more stable one

Either way, if I had to recommend a distro for typical user computing, I would recommend debian over arch. I can't think of a reason why'd you pick arch over it unless you're an 3l1t3 H@x0r

Shut the fuck up GustavoMtheCvnt, noone gives a shit about your gay ass windows 95 clone. Go back to Jow Forumsunixporn.

What? What's wrong with 1024x768? I also use it rn on my CRT 4:3 and good size ratio is very comfy.

It's really not that hard to install proprietary firmware with Debian during the install:
wiki.debian.org/Firmware
There is even a Debian release with all the proprietary driver shit if you need it: cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

I know, being poor sucks.

>what's wrong
>CRT

Old people are weird

Yeah, like using a thinkpad increases memory usage or some other shit. You get a grip and get rid of that bloat you call of KDE.

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I downloaded the nonfree iso, and even then it didn't recognize my X201 wifi during setup. I had to install it wired and after that install iwlwifi so it could work.

Are you a monkey, or a people?

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Yeah, it really sucks to have an i7, 10GB of ram and GTX 980.
Flicker free, no latency, best contrast and brightness. What's not to like?

>KDE
Are you too retarded to read? double check the WM section of my screenfetch, tardman

ouch, failed to impress

debian coz everyone saying arch on here seems like a faggot be debian dont be a faggot

>b-but I don't use KDE
Are you?

>2nd gen i7, 10gb DDR3, 5 year old graphics card on a CRT.

Like I said... Old people are weird.

What DE/WM are you using

>DE
There's no reason to use a DE unless you like getting some (extra) security holes.
>WM
Openbox.

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it's a goldmine in a bad way

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Arch Linux if you want to be wild and adventurous.
Debian if you want to be sleek and professional.

I always hate it when people try to ape the Windows 95 look and fuck it up as badly as you do.

big brain: deboostrap
small peanut for brain: pacstrap

I use the same chip stop pretending firmware isos don't exist dumbfuck, not defending debian. Firmware is not free software by definition but is not malware since it can only be run by hardware and not in the os context

idk man, you're telling me to get rid of something that I don't have. can't say that makes much sense :/

>but i told you i don't use KDE
must be sad to be this retarded

I guess I am, can you elaborate upon what you're seeing?

Debian.

If you can into command line gi with arch. Setting everything up might take a while, but since it's rolling releas you literally only install once. With debian you have to actively update when you want a new version.
Also arch has way newer packages, a good wiki, and the arch build system which makes building packages from source trivial.

Lmao what a faggot (the mod)

arch or manjaro (cinnamon edition) if you want stability and up-to-date software
Debian if you want stability and enjoy munching black cock and richard stallmans ass

goober

Debian. ubuntu, fedora, opensuse and all their derivatives have a lot of people, and most importantly, professionals reviewing code and packages. Even if by the mere fact that they are often behind an enterprise monitored firewall.
That's why I don't feel safe installing any Arch based distro. Like 90% of their userbase is neets, retarded redditors and Jow Forumsedditors. Jow Forumschangemyview XDD

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>and all their derivatives
wrong, they are shit and maintained by neets

Oh shit, you're right. I was trying to convey that they indirectly review the "same" packages. But now I remember how a lot of them delay security patches, behave like weird forks, have package conflicts, etc. I don't use any of them because of that so it slipped my mind.

Corporate GOOD
Community BAD

do you know anything about the kernel you're (probably not) using?

install voidlinux

how can one attain this level of distropill
so based

mods are faggots, thats the general consensus

suck my dick, clippy

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Instructions unclear, I got a silver dollar up my ass and my laptop's OS free

Holy shit, this nigga got Manjaro on a tamagotchi

>debian and fedora is corporate even though they are literally community's distros
oh right, you mean a corporate distro is anything that accomplishes a good product so that it gets donations from corporations

you ain't 1337

>mint
Mint can suck a fat dick
Arch

Can't say I am

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im not your nigga

>Broken xorg
>Working xorg
Pick one.

but you are l33t

Debian

ArchWiki is just as applicable to Debian for 90% of the content, and the other 10% is just changing package names.

Am I supposed to hate the moderator in this picture? I do not understand what the mod did wrong here.

>Mod can't understand simple steps to resolve an issue
>'what did you do to solve your problem?'
>exactlywhatsintheguide.txt
>'explain to me'
>nofucku.wav
>???
>mod gets pissed
>dude gets banned

>using apt

OP here, I picked Debian.

Can you post the link to the thread? I want to check if that's literally what happened.

Most of the time people just leave the forum when they solved their problem which is fine. Sometimes they solve their problem, hang around fish for people begging to explain the solution, I don't see any problem banning them. Trolling is not constructive discussion and a lot of forums allow it only on certain parts of the forum.

OP here, I picked Arch.

Imagine defending a power-tripping mod when a ban is total overreaction to that conversation. It's like shooting someone because they talk too loudly on their phone. When people get a little bit of power they cannot NOT use it to boost their ego. If that person wouldn't have been a mod he would have needed to actually use his words. Now it's just sad which is why someone screencapped it.

>Forum thread about a specific topic.
>Ask how the poster fixed the problem.
>Poster says "Follow the guide"
>Ask "Care to eloborate? I too cannot find what exactly you did to solve the problem. There is no need to be terse."
>Poster says "I did what was suggested here."

Context changes things. In some context it is completely appropriate to ban people who are "power-tripping" on finding some solution other people needs.

Do you know the link to that discussion? What is captured in the screenshot is hardly enough to judge if the action was appropriate.

OP here, fuck you all. I'm picking gentoo.

OP here, I picked Hannah Montana Linux.