Intel and their disregard for security over speed is fucking ludicrous.
>meltdown and spectre spotted in the wild >people are abusing these vulnerabilites to get root access in less than 3 minutes youtu.be/rKncAFAShkQ
Honestly can't wait until researchers find RIDL and ZombieLoad in the wild.
And even with disabling hyper threading , applying your microcode, and reducing the speed of your chip by 8%-600% YOU ARE STILL VULNERABLE. Fuck Intel and fuck glowniggers. Fuck Intel and their thousands of undocumented and hidden commands reserved for CIANiggers. If you think you're safe, you're not. The only way to be sure you are safe is to get a new chip. I've been unemployed for a while but soon as summer is over I'll be getting a new rig. AMD, Debian GNU+ Linux. Fuck MicroJew.
Every day I contemplate getting ryzen next upgrade more
Jacob Davis
>tl;dr, so didn't read >see link to youtube video >think, this shit must be interesting >watch video, skip to end >still don't know what to make of it becuz don't know shit about hacking or Linux >oh well, fuck it. Looks like Intel BTFO kind of thread so...
Fuck yeah op. Fuck Intlel.
Joshua Reed
Oh shite. Where’s all those people saying these vulns were too complicated to be used effectively? Should I trash my incel powered thonkpads? Or will I be good with just disabling hyperthreading?
Zachary Cox
the current state of Jow Forums
Landon White
Stop derailing. If you don't have something bad to say about Inlel, don't say anything at all.
Blake Martin
>can't read >can't watch a fucking 1:30 minute clip end to end
what the fuck dude, get some help. Your attention span is unhealthy.
Zachary Reyes
I'm on Jow Forums for a reason.
Isaiah Cook
the current state of user
Kevin Cruz
>reducing speed of a chip by 600%
kek
Intel is so fucked up it's going to have to steal performance from the last CPU you ever had in order to be safe. Not even kidding actually. If you have other Intlel cpu's in your house, using them instead won't work. You'll still have to patch to be safe.
Parker Parker
the'yre shills sand liers. all of these can be deployed using javascript. Even the meltdown attacks. And that's what we know, it's been published, who the fuck knows what truthfully smart people have been using them for in complete obscurity. If what we know publicly is somewhat concerning then the truth behind the scenes is beyond anodda shoah.
Nathan Peterson
sir delid dis post
Aaron Lopez
>Even the meltdown attacks. So even AMD is not safe? What do? Spend thousands on Talos II Power9 system?
Ian Russell
AMD is exposed, but it's not as fucked as Intel is. At a bare minimum AMD prioritized security over speed.
Oliver Harris
sir please to do the needful and remove this post!
Ryan Wright
>I've been unemployed for a while every amd user ever, just go to your local scamcenter rajeesh
Hudson James
kek based
Ian Phillips
Buying modern AMD CPUs won't get you anything. They're exposed to these vulnerabilities too. If you want be safe for sure the best choice are netbooks with Intel Atom N 270, Atom N 550 or AMD E-350 and E-450 CPUs.
Leo Brooks
After this all blows over, their performance will drop and be on par with AMD processors
Then all you'll need to do is compare the price and AMD will be the go to option
Noah Scott
I've heard that Zen 3 (Ryzen 4000) will be immune to these vulnerabilities at a hardware level. Anyone know if this is true?
Daniel Parker
>At a bare minimum AMD prioritized security over speed. Based AMD, Intelfags enjoy your AIDS speed holes.
Jose Adams
AMD is infinitely safer than Intel. They're only vulnerable to a few attacks while Intel is vulnerable to all.
Matthew Gomez
>meltdown and spectre spotted in the wild >people are abusing these vulnerabilites to get root access in less than 3 minutes Source? I'm interested
>endless vulnerabilities check >highest priced cpus on the market check >security patches nerf IPC and clock speed check >dirty tactics, unethical business practices, bullying and threatening THEIR OWN clients and customers check Intel should be studied by economics and business and majors for a prime example of how NOT to run a company.
Dominic Flores
Intel is as jewish as it gets. Don't make the mistake of thinking they weren't aware of these flaws. There is ZERO doubt in my mind engineers were aware of these flaws, told executives, execs said dont talk about it and hopefully no one will notice. AMD, being the underdog literally can not afford to make such glaring mistakes. Intel has room for failure, AMD doesn't.
Gavin Miller
Oh fuck me, not even a week into it and script kiddies are already deploying exploits. Fuck Intel.
So Im retarded can someone explain why intel is bad
Chase Myers
>massive breaches in security on hardware level means Intel has to rework entire chips to make them secure again >until that happens chip speeds are really fucking slow and chips are really fucking expensive as well >ayymd kicking ass
Matthew Miller
I knew he was an AMD shill, unsubscribed.
Alexander Clark
that proves nothing
Grayson Sanchez
the absolute state of intards, etc
Christian Thomas
Serious question here. What about intel CPUs that don't support hyperthreading? Are they still vulnerable to MDS?
I just disabled all mitigations and moved on. Nothing to see or fear here.
Lincoln Lee
>proves nothing >articles on how massive security oversights are being exploited, but in reference to older exploits that were "too complicated to execute" are in fact used
They are essentially riddled with backdoors so the Israelis and their 5 eye lapdogs could spy on you.
Jack Brooks
It takes longer to execute these exploits, far longer, on the span of 15 minutes to 24 hours, but disabling Hyperthreading/ not having support for it does not mean you are not exposed. You're exposed.
Carter Hughes
I ran XP for almost 10 years without an antivirus. L.M.A.O. Just don't be stupid while browsing bro
Kevin Wood
no, but you are it proves nothing
Jose Lewis
it runs 4.5% faster in games. a small sacrifice in security is worth it
Leo Jackson
Soooo basically get AMD from now on.
Eli Perry
Will people ever realize that all current mainstream architectures are buggy swiss cheese shit built on prehistoric foundations that practically predate computer security as a concept in general? Spectre impacted just about everything with speculative execution, Intel only receives more personalized vulnerabilities because it's under a microscope due to being the only infrastructure vendor that has mattered for well over a decade now.
Nobody disregarded shit, the problem was that they didn't even consider these kinds of obtuse attacks to be an option - in most cases they still aren't.
>If you think you're safe, you're not. This is correct. >The only way to be sure you are safe is to get a new chip. This is wrong. The only way to be safe is to not expose yourself in the first place. Stop living your entire fucking life on your computer to the point that you are controlled and significantly threatened by the short-sighted decisions of megacorporate eggheads 25 years ago, you fucking dumbass drone.
when will you fags realise these exploits are only relevant for cloud providers and hypervisors? >inb4 muh javascript browsers already mitigated any potential exploits by removing high precision timers just disable the mitigations and move on with your life
Andrew Green
I think we should ressurect OpenSparc and start making opensource hardware a thing
Jacob Garcia
The arguments are pretty sound, Intel is throwing the kitchen sink at everything and praying that something sticks. If they cannot find a long term area of focus, they will go the way of IBM and become a background player.
Jack Watson
Maybe they should make a very fast gaming CPU that does not provide virtual machine safety.
Levi Green
>At a bare minimum AMD prioritized security over speed. That might be a bit of an overstatement. They didn't sacrifice security for performance but saying they PRIORITIZED security is just wishful thinking. Looking at how many years it actually took for the intel screw-ups to surface, we'll only be sure about AMD's approach years from now.
Adam Miller
>AMD, being the underdog literally can not afford to make such glaring mistakes. clearly the same can't be said about their GPU division.
>Intel only receives more personalized vulnerabilities because it's under a microscope due to being the only infrastructure vendor that has mattered for well over a decade now. Fucking this
Cooper Gomez
Where can I buy that? Or did you make it yourself
Cameron Turner
Wrong, they’re still running while charging top prices and having the biggest share despite all those faults. Intel is winning. Big time.
Jason Jenkins
Nah, a better study would be on how retarded consumers really are.
Joseph Powell
There are PoCs using WebGL and OpenGL to construct a timing channel, no built in timer required.
Benjamin Young
>Ethics don't matter
Jackson Cruz
Bullshit, Intlel was faster because it didn't care about security. It never did. Look at how a lot of vulnerabilities does not exist on Ryzen.
Wtf can even be done to fight zombieload type attacks? AMD is going to eventually have its own logic exploitations at well since thats just how multithread works. Whats the next step?
Dylan Brown
I have an i5 2500k. How fucked am I?
William Wright
>4 threads
Chase Cook
And? All anyone needs is one vulnerability and that's it, you're done for. Both of these companies are hot garbage.
Bentley Bell
>largest profit on the market check >Intel should be studied by economics and business and majors for a prime example of how to run a company. fix'd that for you
intel fanboys should be studied hard to find the missing link between humans and monkeys though
bros.... am I guilty for everyone person who bought an intel pc with my suggestion? Is this the cross I am gonna have to carry? The fact all these people got fucked in the ass and they dont even know it? I cant go on like this bros...
i dont think they just hoped to bury those things its way way too valuable info for intelligence agencies, there is a reason the company is named INTEL after all
