Give a rational argument against using VS code without referring to

Give a rational argument against using VS code without referring to

>vim/emacs
>memory usage
>electron

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best product Microsoft created.

Give a rational argument against cancer without referring to

>not having cancer is great
>having cancer is bad
>may result in death

VS codium already exists

>do not use these valid points
Braincel. It really comes down to preference.

It's spyware.

responsiveness

takes time to the program launch even using nvme ssds

Telemetry and

Jetbrains makes IDEs.

when you stop using it, it may result in hair-loss

Its from microsoft.

input latency is hell.

>it's not vim
>it uses so much memory it's not even funny
>it's literally a fucking web browser
fuck you OP

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I use it and I like it. I hope you like it too if you use it. I also hope you like vim or emacs if you use them. I love you all :3

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shitty layout that can't be modified

DOOM Emacs exists

Litterily the best code editor, best extensions and you can even write LaTeX with it. Fucjing awesome

>vim/emacs
if you already know one or the other there's no reason to switch.
>memory usage
i'd rather use memory for something else.
>electron
text editor should start up instantly because it's a fucking text editor. anything electron takes a while to start up even on beefy machines.

You can use LSP servers from any editor

Debugger gui is not great, i prefere visual studio

input latency and general lagginess when doing anything

i use vim because electron apps use too much memory

it's closed source, use vscodium

fucking what.

my vscode launches super fast. I don't know if that has anything to do with the fact that I usually launch from git bash, but we're talking 1-3sec. It's almost as fast as notepad++

Doesn't run on the OSes I use.

Tries to be everything. No "1st" class support for anything outside the webfaggot stack.

>valid points

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There are better editors available.

done

come on honestly
how can anyone use a desktop program that is unironically written in html/css/javascript

where does it end , devs need to draw the line ffs

Usually not defending Electron trash but VSCode may be about the only program that gets a pass for me. It just works and perfectly well while at that. Definitely day and night difference between this and Atom (which is kinda funny because Atom was like an Electron flagship app but it was completely unusable).

such as?
>inb4 vim
>inb4 emacs
>inb4 IDE
>inb4 not just a text editor

>muh """"desktop programs""""
>it's not written in 86k assembly so it must be shit
besides, the only people complaining about a 0.0000000000002362s performance loss are lonely raging virgins

>dumb webdev """programmer""" zoomer: the post

i think you're confusing vs code with visual studio :^)

takes ages to launch if you're not on a brand new pc, comes with a shitton of usless ui garbage, is laid out like a fucking toy, requires extra work to make it fit in with the rest of your desktop.
That and all of the other things that OP doesn't want listed because he will seethe if he hears those arguments again

>no actual arguments
brainlet detected
continue writing fizzbuzz, you'll surely get a job one day user

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not knowing about flight simulator or excel

because you were so full of valid arguments?
oh zoomer, go program in your fav programming language , html lol

love vscode tho, its maximum comfy

>insinuating that excel is good

>takes ages to launch if you're not on a brand new pc
if you can't launch Google Chrome in 0.01sec, get a new computer, simple as that
>comes with a shitton of usless ui garbage
such as? Everything has a use, and multiple ways to do a single things, which is required
>is laid out like a fucking toy
how so?
>requires extra work to make it fit in with the rest of your desktop
not a problem with VS Code, you can change the theme to your custom needs

>implying I didn't say anything meaningful
>implying I'm a zoomer, as well as a web dev
lurk more

telemetry and spyware (meaning not the same here).

As a VS Code user, and creator of I'd like to say that those last two are valid arguments. There's better ways to make software, and V8's memory usage can be a real issue.

oh yes, of course, the IMPLYGING argument

>oh yes, of course, the IMPLYGING argument

Legit response. I would add the security and intrusive elements that come with using MS proprietary software, especially VScode. Personally, I don't care how efficient VScode becomes, it's still a liability.

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use vscodium

that's not fast

kill yourself you absolute cunt

- pseudo intellisense
- eating more resources and being less responsive than java IDEs
- not native

stop saying, "that is unfair comparison, it's an editor"
every editor with intellisense and external plugins support is actually IDE
vim, emacs can be turn into IDE too

even though it support everything IDE support, it is worse at it than actual IDEs
IntelliJ language support is top-notch, it actually understands the language it works with
Anybody that uses Vscode with all these lsp plugins are stupid about the thing
it's already an IDE, it's not lightweight at all and still does worse job at it

I'm actually long time vim user, but I acknowledge use of jetbrains products, they are good, I use it at work
On the other hand vscode is really weird phenomenom.
It's not lightweight, is seen as a text editor.
Everybody use it as a IDE, but is in denial when you point that out to them.
But there is always some person being stubborn about the thing and using it, even if they see how badly it performs

>2019 with processors with billion cores
>text editor takes 3 seconds to start
this is why we will never explore space

>- eating more resources and being less responsive than java IDEs
Lol since when, this isn't atom.

3 secs for a plain text editor is slow as fuck

it's the same bloody thing as atom, right down to being a collection of heavyweight webpages being rendered in a UI-less chromium

>Using Pajeet forks
Tell me why its not a spyware.

>he thinks is a decimal performance loss
kys

What the fuck are you talking about? Pajeet forks? It's spyware cause it's not local, and it's licensed to Microsoft, dipshit. All your code is being reviewed by who-knows how many bots. That's a good enough reason, unless you are a Microsoft slave.

a core i7 clocked at 3.7 GHz does an average of SIXTY-THREE BILLION operations PER SECOND, solid state drives offer read speeds of up to about THREE POINT THREE BILLION bytes PER SECOND, and DDR4-3200* offers a peak transfer rate of about TWENTY-EIGHT BILLION bytes PER SECOND, but vscode fanboys think it's acceptable for a text editor to take SECONDS to launch

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