remember, if it isn't spinning I ain't buying
SSDs BTFO by the mechanical genius
Why should I remember what you want to buy? I'm not buying or selling anything.
Maybe explain why "helium-based" HDDs are good? Is there a real-world R/W benchmark?
I feel like I'm missing something when new storage sizes comes out. Don't people just but the cheapest $/TB available when they buy storage and be done with it?
Setting a new benchmark in how much data you can lose when a Seagate goes tits up.
This. Seagate's are fucking trash.
Wut? Helium just allows for a more consistent environment for the spinning disc, and so higher capacities. Are you stupid?
those aren't dual actuator. the mach.2 is. so they're not much different.
better is less failure rate:
hgst => toshiba > seagate > WD
progression and development of new technologies:
Seagate > toshiba > nobody else does any new tech for HDDs
>shitgate
Isn't HGST WD now? WD discontinued the HGST lines like DeskStar from before they were acquired.
Literally nothing is wrong with Seagate. Take your 2010 memes back there, man. [spoiler]And take me back with you ;_;
>nobody else does any new tech for HDDs
wot is mamr
HGST lived on for quite a while and finally died last year but it was done because that was part of their agreement of merging from the Chinese government.
theregister.co.uk
why did the (((chinese))) want the brands to stay separate
what about hitachi?
what are the speeds though? ssds are good because they are fast, not because they are info-dense
different areas but now it is dead, we'll see how long until quality drops
seagate did it first, too
Nowadays, my only issue with Segate is selling SMR drives labeled as 'Compute' that are SMR and trying to hide the fact that they are SMR. WD 8/10TB shucks are usually the same price as the Segate equivalent anyway - and no SMR.
ya gotta spin to win
Still shit, OP is retarded and doesn’t know how this shit works.
Mechanical HDDs are slow like OP's brain and only good for storing media.
> seagate
> ever
op is a brainlet confirmed
>helium based
Good, now my hdd can float in the air while i vacuum my room.
They aren't good. Helium slowly escapes, so the drives have a strictly limited lifetime unlike old air-filled HDDs.
Isnt helium finite?
Why the fuck are they using it on harddrives the cucks!
We made need every drop for a helium space shuttle!
Weren't we running out of helium a few years ago?
>helium
You faggots do know that stuff easily leaks out from everything including the industrial grade metal canisters meant to store it long term?
We're running out of everything.
So you're retarded. Got it. Carry on.
>helium
No thanks, I don't want my hdd to fly away
HDs over 6tb are fucking expesive though.
>inb4 poorlet
i just fucking bought 4x10tb WD reds and they cost an arm and a fucking leg, a thousand fucking dollars for 4 hard drives.
Are you setting up a small private server?
I think that if data centers are using 15TB SSDs, then maybe it's time for me to switch
>15TB SSDs,
>$10k
>$700/tb
wew lad. For the price of 15tb of ssd storage you could get almost petabyte levels of normal storage
That actually makes sense. If moving through helium is less resistive than moving through air then the flipside is that what is considered "airtight" wouldn't necessarily apply to helium molecules.
HDDs should make up the vast majority of your storage for that exact reason.
Wait, don't tell me you actually still play video games? How embarrassing for you.
>buy 16TB helium drive
>try to install it
>floats out the window
>call seagate
>they tell me it's my fault for having the window open
>sir pls needful close window next time
I don't get it OP, what's so good about these?
Literally everything has a limited life and a predictable one is superior to an unpredictable one.
Won't the data fly off hard drive with the balloon juice in the hard drives?
>a 2 kilo of steel block flies away because of a tiny alone of helium
Why is everyone so retarded here? It's not a fucking balloon.
Aren't lower-density HDD-s (say 3T) inherently more reliable than high-capacity ones?
I don't keep anything crucial on my 3T Toshiba HDD but I'd still be bummed if I lost all of it
Lmao.
Helium drives are exactly as unpredictable when it comes to mechanical failure as regular drives, they just add a hard cap on drive life on top of that.
Generally, the more platters a drive has, the less reliable it is.
its a joke you nigger
You are about as dense as the air surrounding the drive.
That's quite very not dense. Are you sure you wanted to make this comment?
Ah yes user, because watching anime and browsing Jow Forums is any less embarrassing huh?
A. Yes
B. I don't watch anime. I store movies, TV shows, and music without getting cucked by streaming kikery. I'm an adult, you see.
Their magic wand is good
WD is phasing out their designs for the superior HGST ones. Any drive over 6TB is basically HGST. Look at a WD 6TB and you'll see it uses the older WD design.
>seagate
Yeah, no thanks I'm fine with my data being intact.
Man HGST was the shizznit, why did they have to get bought out by WD?
>moving parts
Right so air replaces said helium and the drive continues working.. I doubt the mechanics of the drive itself is any different
>we have a source close to us if we ever need more
Its called the sun
>seagate has a lower failure than WD
are you fucking retarded?
smart of them
looks like you are.
dumb statistics denying nigger
sure little shill, whatever helps you sleep at night
Yes, because it's very tiny.
>Inhales a bunch
Really nice helium!
>Helium
Is this what they mean by the cloud?
>he thinks WD is reliable
lmao
the only single time seagate had higher failure rates is when they went full jew and sold seawater damaged HDDs. Other than that they've always been better.
your """"statistics"""" prove that, as well. autist
don't want to risk 16tb's worth of porn on a seagate
Long live sata. Fun fact - due to b.c you can plug one of those 16TB drives in an old 2004 era sata 1 board and long as the os supports 2TB+ drives your golden. So don't toss out your Micro servers just yet. Keep them, stuff them full with higher capacity drives and keep rolling on.
Helium allows reduced wear on the spindle motor and actuator arms.
Also keeps it cooler and removes any possibility of dirt.
Traditional HDDs actually have filters on them because you can't expect the climate of use.
Are you in Alaska or New Mexico?
When they heat up/cool down gasses inside expand and contract so they need a way to escape.
With helium they can work in multiple different areas of different pressures since it's already a negative pressured inside.
Helium is also one of the most innert elements so there's no chance of chemical reactions if it escapes.
Also allows possibility of using above 30,000 feet or in non-conducting liquids like oil.
>Implying SSDs are only useful for games loading times
Kys
SpaceX will be mining hylium filled ice comets in a decade you dumb zoomer.
Private market based technology will always overcome socialist based technology you NASA fags.
>dude letes spends millions of dollars to bring back helium for birthday party balloons andharddrives
shut up retard, it will cost a fortune
> helium
> tiny
It's a gas, it doesn't have size. It fills whatever container it's in.
List the stuff you watch and listen to then.
You have a smaller market that needs the most TBs they can get irrespective of the price, which you can use to beta-test your new high-capacity drives so all kinks are ironed out by the time the prices hit mainstream.
pretty sure user was referring to atom size.
It'd be cheaper to fuse hydrogen into helium before that happens
BIG DISK ENERGY
vacuum drives when
This
The only HDD that ever failed on me was a Seagate.
Never had a problem with WD HDD, SSD or EXT.
You obviously never used WD RE4-GP 2TB drives. They were terrible. I bought 8 of them over a period of about 6 months and, in the following years, I think I had 9 or 10 failures.
I liked WD for a long time before and after that but have switched back to Seagate after I had a couple of WD Red 4TBs fail as well.
Its needful you monkey nigger
Helium-drives are just a desperate attempt by HDD manufacturers to keep up in the data density race against solid-state media.
They aren't archive drives because the Helium will eventually leak out which will cause the headers to crash.
Nope, it'll fail because it needs the helium to prevent the headers from crashing.
Helium is less dense then "air" so HDD manufacturers can cram more platters into the unit way beyond what normal air can safely manage.
HDD will always be superior
Pff, how sad.
They're sealed. This lifetime is measured in hundreds of years.
Enjoy your failed drives, goyim.
More fast storage for the rest of us.
More supplements for me
>HELIUM
Spare me from squeaky HDD
Got a vitamin D deficiency? You know the sun is good for that, right?
that's all you got, wd shill?
boring
I wonder if you get confused by pull doors
Sheeeeeeeit
I know it's bait but anyways
>Pic related