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580 8gb, 2600,b450, 250gb ssd, 1tb HDD , 16gb 3200 ram should cost around that and do 1080p ez

Well my question is why is it awful?
One would expect the AMD Engineering tean to be better at overclocking chips than I am.

CPU microcode is even aware of the silicon quality, if they put any real effort into it PBO could be awesome in theory, unfortunately it isnt.

>Well my question is why is it awful?
because it's a retarded auto mode, it can't beat manually setting the lowest possible voltage/highest possible clock

If you're doing h265 encoding then you'll see benefits up to 64 cores.

Beyond that the encoder isn't too well optimized.

For H264 encoding you'll be best off with batching and only using 8 cores at most per encode.

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h265, 64 cores is too costly for me atm. Would like one though

Would the msi radeon rx 580 be ok? and what's the 2600? Should the b450 be atx or is matx fine, and why?

>processor Intel i5 2400 3.0 GHz (4 cores)
>Motherboard Intel 1155 (using front audio only)
>Ram 8GB ddr3
>Nvidia GT 440 1GB ddr5
>Hdd 500gb
>Psu 460 watt
>Casing Atx
>150 burger bux

should I?

Yeah, just saying it will scale up very well for any core counts you're looking at.

So feel free to get the 32 core, it'll provide direct near perfect scaling in performance for the extra cores.

Sure you pay a premium for those extra cores, but you'll get years of use from it.

>what's the 2600
intel i7 2600

if its 8gb 580, its fine
ryzen 2600 cpu
b450 tomahawk is the best budget mobo, atx/matx is just size so it depends on how big you want your pc to be

personally i'd go atx to shove as much shit in there as possible

Depends on the purpose.

That's ancient low end.
You can't expect to play Dota 2 on high with it.
If you need just any computer right now or are planning to use it as a tv media center or home server then perhaps it's not bad.

alright cool and thanks

i just want a tf2 and shitpost machine
do you think that pos rig can run tf2 and portal at 1080p? medium settings at least

>32 core
you mean 32 thread

>tf2 and portal
what year are you living in

i'm in the same boat

I mainly play modded minecraft and skyim.

With some occasional CIV 5 or some Total war game.

Not sure.
Gtx X40 cards are considered sub-gaming tier, it's something that was made to run MS office on Windows XP if your PC had no integrated graphics.

And that was a LOOONG time ago.
The rest of the hardware is OK as for the GPU you might wanna look for an HD7870 or an R9 380
Those might be dirt cheap right now,

>I mainly play modded minecraft and skyim.
modded minecraft is very cpu heavy

depends on the mods, but you're not wrong, same with skyrim.

youtube.com/watch?v=CFQLeH3Y6Z0

Here's a Dota 2 benchmark on low and it sucks absolute ass.
So i wouldn't expect it to ring great with TF2

hey dont judge i still play those games
btw tf2's optimization is getting so shit you can play csgo better than it these days.

Okay I read the wiki and followed the instructions.

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($145.66 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 570 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-X1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($26.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: LG - 25UM58-P 25.0" 2560x1080 60 Hz Monitor ($167.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($8.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $689.28

I am not a pro gamer at all. I just want a PC that doesn't start to burn or lag whether it's used for playing, drawing, watching anime, shitposting on Jow Forums or whatever crosses my mind and that lasts.
I picked that monitor because I can find it cheap so I thought that a higher horizontal resolution for the same price was cool.

eteknix.com/amd-asus-x570-motherboard-price-leak-is-worryingly-high/
The low-entry X570 price won't be too bad

Bad falseflag

>Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg)
why a single stick
>Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 570 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($144.99 @ Newegg)
too expensive

>Monitor: LG - 25UM58-P 25.0" 2560x1080 60 Hz Monitor ($167.99 @ Amazon)
too expensive

PBO is utter shit, manual OC is the best you can do

pcpartpicker.com/list/RxQT29

So, I came up with this. Should I change anything? I would like to have at least 500GB storage instead of ssd + hdd. It's over budget, but when there are sales you think I could get closer to $600?

NOT ARMOR

MSI Armor is the absolute dogshit tier GPUs designed to sell to the moners in a bulk or for the water cooler guys who are going to throw the cooler out anyways.

Get anything other than Armor.
And if you find 3400 ram it's a goot touch as well,

I'm making my 3900X build now. What motherboard should I get? I'm not going to OC at all so I'd like something cheap.

Should I wait for September and get a system with a 3950x and 2080ti?

>What motherboard should I get? I'm not going to OC at all so I'd like something cheap.
u can get high end b450s for less than 100 bux nigger

I want to do the same and hope the prices will drop

>why a single stick
So two of 8GB?

The wiki said not to be afraid of wasting the money on the graphics that's why I choose that one.
Should I downgrade?

What range of prices should I look for in the monitor? I usually look at it in the dark and I would like to use it to watch movies from time to time.

looks fine
could save $50 buying the gpu used

Picking up a B450 Tomahawk then. Thanks nigger.

>So two of 8GB?
yes
i just meant ur 570 is expensive, there are decent/good ones for less
pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=price&c=392&page=1

>What range of prices should I look for in the monitor?
the issue with the monitor is it's 1080p 60hz, get 1080p 144hz+ or 1440p @75hz for futureproofing

will switching to a gtx 750 fix the rig?
i saw a bunch of people selling that for 43 bucks so kinda cheap i guess?

Okay thank you a lot.

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Better?

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sapphire are the only way to go with amd gpus

I still to plan my new setup and one of the important decisions is whether I should go for 4k (60Hz) or wqhd, because my monitor should be below 500€/$. Overall Budget is approximately 2000€/$.

Uses:
- Gaming (though I have a PS4 for most games, but some friends don't) [fps, multiplayer, simulations, ...]
- Video Editing (4k Action Cam with Blender)
- Photo-Editing

Any Suggestions. Maybe a fitting monitor?

safe to say she went su-per saiyan

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> i7 9600K - Good 60fps+ gaming & multithreaded use
> i7 9700K - Best for gaming, launching
>i9 9900K - Budget HEDT or gaming+streaming on a single PC, launching in July
>I9 7980XE - HEDT

>Intel CPUs are now defunct. Even used i7 workstations are no longer worthwhile due to vulnerabilities and performance regression

Seems OP was hit on the head.

Gaming on 1440p 165hz. And 980ti 4790k doesn't cut it anymore. Especially since i like to play above 80fps and have good graphics

pcpartpicker.com/list/TBkVjy

Does this look good? Is the 2080ti going to be beaten any time soon?

Need a motherboard with these specs
>For a 12 or 16 core ZEN 2 CPU
>can fit 64 GB RAM
>8 sata ports minimum
>3 PCIe slots minimum
Help would be appriciate. I just dont know the difference between the motherboards much or what makes them different other than looks.

Asrock Taichi fits the bill

Poorfag here. Need lots of storage but dont wanna shell out 150 bucks per TB of ssd. Are SSHDs actually any good? Like worth the 20-30 dollar premium over a disk drive of similar storage amount?

>Intel CPUs are now defunct. Even used i7 workstations are no longer worthwhile due to vulnerabilities and performance regression
OP confirmed AMD shill. Even with mitigation patches Intel outperforms AMD in nearly every fucking benchmark. Fuck you.

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>>For a 12 or 16 core ZEN 2 CPU
Pretty much all B450 and X470 except the low end
>>can fit 64 GB RAM
Every board with 4 slots can do that
sata ports minimum
A few have that...
PCIe slots minimum
Uh oh. Yes many do have them but good luck actually having enough lanes free to populate them especially if you use any m.2 drives.

either go full ssd or buy hdd if u just need storage
something like a 660p 1-2tb is cheap as hell

Uh no, OP is an intel shill with brain damage. There's a difference.

do yourself a favor and buy a x570 that fits all those specs and save the trouble of going with older boards

Anything dumb about this? Looking to knock down the price to about $1550, pretty much entirely for gaming.

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>entirely for gaming
Then stop wasting money on pozzed intel garbage and get a good GPU instead?

Ah I forgot about the 660p. That is a decent price but my other m.2 slot doesnt have a heatsink and is right below my graphics card. Do I have to worry about the SSD overheating?

>Is the 2080ti going to be beaten any time soon?
next year. the rtx cards are almost a year old now

>not waiting three more weeks to see real tests
Foolish.

>250gb ssd
>2tb HDD
poo

>8700k
poo

>z390 taichi
for a poo 8700k. Poo

Poo.

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Anyone know anything about these monitors? Specifically the 27 inch 1440p version. That price seems almost too good to be true but am poor and really want a nice monitor.

it's not the fastest nvme to begin with. it won't be able to sustain crazy writes for forever either. overheating is largely a meme for basic use cases.
so i wouldnt worry

Doesnt have to be super fast, just faster than a disk drive and not super noisy. Already have a 500gig m.2 for my OS and a few other important files. Thanks for your help tho.

If you need that many PCIe slots, you need to move to TR4

It's VA and freesync and not a 'namebrand', that's why it's cheaper. Probably has a lackluster stand, not the best colors, etc. But it is 1440p and 144hz, which is wonderful when you experience it

even a graphics card takes minimal hits from pci-e x4

what did he mean by this?

>imblying I can read his mind
Why do you need 3x PCIe?

it means that even if you had only 16 pci-e lanes, then you could run 4 graphics cards and have a very low drop from full x16, so there's not really a point of buying a CPU just for pci-e lanes

How would Ryzen 5 2400g + 2400MHz 8GB (2x 4GB) RAM compare to Ryzen 5 2600 + RX 580 8 GB + 3200mhz 16GB (2x 8GB) RAM?

Web browsing and using minesweeper? No difference. Playing TRIPLE AY TITLES AT ULTRA GRAPHICS AT TEN EIGHTY PEE MAX HURTZ, there would be a noticeable difference in the way that the 6 core could maintain framerates

been using a 2400g for ages now
pros
>plays everything but you need 720p settings
>good cpu for editing and stuff
cons
>can't stream games (obviously)
It's a good youtube machine cpu that can handle light gaming but if you actually want to game properly then just get a GPU

A lot to be honest
>amd is better in price performance ratio
>Buying a black series intended for security systems on a gaming rig for no reason at all
>750 power source when you will barely get closer to 400w
Bruh, what are you doing? Get a better card if you have money to burn like this

Ok thanks, and wouldn't it be cheaper to go the 2nd route instead of the 1st + adding a dedicated gpu later?

personally I bought all the shit I needed plus the apu to tide me over until GPU prices went down and now i'm building this, probably lost £50 on the APU as i'll sell it for £80 if i'm lucky but it's whatever. Now is a good time to build a pc as opposed to last year
when everything is released

You're supposed to combine PBO with a negative voltage offset, you retards.

>buying intel in 2019
Read the news.
But besides that, the build is overall terrible and you can get the same performance with a better 1440p monitor and 1TB SSD instead of that 250GB crap for over $400 cheaper.

3800X comes out in less than a month.

>B450 TOMAHAWK
I know this is the top shilled ryzen board.
it has good vrm cooling but one thing I don't like is that it cheaps out on internal audio (ALC892 instead of ALC1220) and internal lan (realtek instead of intel nic)
so if you care about that maybe consider something else

x570 boards are going to be hella expensive, also there's nothing wrong with older boards as long as they got the support

Actually it would be like $10 cheaper compared to my current build + a GPU, so not much of a price difference. However, if I went with the 2nd option I would get 2 more cores, 8GB more, and faster, RAM, and a dedicated GPU so I'd be able to play more games at 1080p, 60 FPS, and on High settings, easier. So I think it would be better and worth it.

don't give a shit about either of those things and the audio sounds fine to me

I was going to get 9600k for high fps 1080p gaming but do we know yet if it would be worth it to wait for AMD in that price range e.g. I'd get more than 5fps more on average assuming graphics card can keep up.
>inb4 the classic "just buy 2700x instead stupid intel jew"

And by 2nd option I mean this

>buying intel in 2019
Why do people need constant reminder of this? Can't you just read the news?
>high fps
Is averages all you care about it?
It being smooth and not stuttering doesn't matter to you?

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I want a new ssd. What is the cool kids buying these days? Opinions on the Intel 660p 1TB M.2 ssd?

I'd rather have higher fps than 60 thanks for the very informative post my friend.
>can't you just read the news?
Maybe you should just learn to read lmao everyone knows about 3xxx already

Are there any advantages to streaming video over your monitor's native resolution? For example I have a 1080p monitor, would streaming 4K video on it look better than 1080p video even though I only have a 1080p monitor?

>I'd rather have higher fps than 60 thanks for the very informative post my friend.
What does the 2600X not get a smooth 60fps minimum in? I can't think of anything. Meanwhile, the 9600k dips under 60 in BFV, Far Cry 5, and some other games.

You don't need to wait. You can just buy a good CPU for that now for cheap. You're just hilariously misinformed.

probably yes because 4k is usually higher bitrate on youtube for example. even if it's upscaled from the source/downscaled. but if they are the same bitrate no

if I go with a x470 or lower motherboard for AM4 on ZEN 2 I would have to update the BIOS? And I would need to have a ZEN CPU in the first place to do that?

4k looks better at 1080p, but its generally not a significant enough difference to really bother with unless you're autistic about it.

4k at native 4k is worthwhile though.

>would have to update the BIOS?
yes unless its the newer batch and they have already been flashd from factory and have some kind of ryzen 3000 sticker on the box

>would need to have a ZEN CPU in the first place to do that?
yes unless the board has a bios flash feature with and usb. i think msi and asus has it