What does Jow Forums genuinely think of Wikipedia?

What does Jow Forums genuinely think of Wikipedia?

It's handy, sure, but are people too reliant on it? It is it more harmful than it is helpful? Is it doomed? Despite being among the most popular sites on the internet it struggles to maintain contributors and hasn't had a contributor count that comes close to reflecting the amount of articles it has that require upkeep since the early 00's

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conservapedia.com/Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia
ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=429:zionist-control-of-wikipedia&Itemid=118
youtu.be/hMBramnCg_s
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Replacement
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theory
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_pride
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation's_ban_of_Fram
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:WMFOffice_-_Ban_Proposal
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronda_Rousey#Relationships
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Jewish media. Literally.

Its a great resource for getting base-level knowledge about pretty much anything. The sources used are fantastic too.
What I want to know is how high on the paranoid schizo chart do you have to be to believe that Wikipedia "leans too far left", so far in fact someone created a "right leaning Wikipedia"?

it's like reading a children's book. a great quick reference and introduction to a topic, but no real information exists on there

How would you go about fixing that? You'd think the most popular educational site on the internet should offer real information.

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has history of edits
sources listed
information
scientific method can be used to prove texts
history, people and brands are information that is true or false doesnt matter only educational scenarios to not do the same mistakes
Simulate all choices and pick working end result
good website imo

It's okay for highschool level knowledge in some areas, less in others. While it can have information on higher end subjects (mainly in STEM), it isn't useful regarding them really, you're better off downloading a springer-verlag book off libgen and browsing through that for anything in depth.
However it's a decent starting place, although you have to be wary of wrong information.
The talk sections are a gold mine of people being retarded.
Also, wiki wars.

Additional since I forgot: The text only size of it is quite small, so it's great for downloading, unpacking and taking places where you won't have internet connection. I like having it on my tablet so I can read random wikipedia articles on my tablet while on the plane

it's only good for as a catalogue or list

As with many things on the internet it was promising but under delivered.
>provides only basic information of a given topic
>Filled to the brim with political propaganda
>hard bias towards the left
>has a inner circle of editors who frown on newcomers (even if they have legitimate knowledge on the subject)
>no coordination between pages on different countries (your experience can vary wildly depending on your language)
>with the proliferation of search engines it became obsolete as now you can search information more easily and with different sources for fact checking

>Filled to the brim with political propaganda
>hard bias towards the left
Point out some examples?

conservapedia.com/Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia
Suit yourself

Can you tell me what your favorite examples are?

you're playing willfully ignorant if you're suggesting you have to be paranoid schizo to acknowledge the leftist bias present in a huge number of articles on wikipedia

>leftist bias present in a huge number of articles
Can you point out some, and explain how they are biased?

white replacement as a conspiracy theory

You're know you're going to reject any examples given.

I started this thread because I wanted to hear opinions.

Fpbp. Just look at those jewish events where they invite contributers and coerce them into writing in their favour. The math and physics content is good, but the history and anything that can be shoahd is not truastworthy

White pride as a racist term but pride of all other races is seen as acceptable

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All historical and social pages are edited by the Jews to push their evil agenda

You know one of Wikipedia's creator is an Ayn Rand loving shill, right?

Amazing site, Wikimedia projects tend to be based, Wiktionary, Wikisource, Wikibooks and Wikispecies are also amazing. You should contribute if you can.

Just name a few. All I know is that german politician edit their wikipedia post in favor for them. There is even a company that sells wikipedia edits as a service.

You mean like how they don't enforce use of BCE/CE? Ah yes, extremely jewish

ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=429:zionist-control-of-wikipedia&Itemid=118

ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=429:zionist-control-of-wikipedia&Itemid=118

youtu.be/hMBramnCg_s

No need for strawman arguments rabbi

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yeah and ayn rand is a dumb empowered lolbteratian female what is your point

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Replacement
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theory
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_pride

I can't read all of this now but what is wrong with these articles? Only read the intro to the first one and it seemed fine.

they're incompetent to run a website and ask for at least 10 times the money it takes to run it

Specialized wikis are way better.

If you want real knowledge there’s a million free lectures and specialty channels on jewtube which is much a more easily accessible medium and more accurate to boot.

As a rule of thumb, if people complain about something being "jewish controlled" and "fascist controlled" it's probably good

A generally useful resource, but I think it increases the intensity and prevalence of poorly read armchair experts. I have a few friends who, between Reddit, Wikipedia, and Dan Carlin, seem to think they've mastered history and philosophy without ever picking up a book. That's mostly irritating though, I don't think it has caused any deep societal issues. Those people were never going to learn or read deeply to begin with.

When you tackle a topic, even (or perhaps particularly) a divisive, political one, it should be cause for concern when the list of sources is predominated by: Newsweek, The Independent, the SPLC, Times of Israel, ThinkProgress, Mother Jones, Media Matters, the Atlantic, and the Guardian.
You don't need to believe in the topic at hand to realize that those are some of the most ideologically slanted publications that still manage to pass muster as citation worthy. Hell, I'd argue half of those would only be worth citing to if a given quote could only be found in an interview with them.

For non-political matters its ok.
For anything political it's zionist trash.

wikipedia has remarkably little bias in relation to its size and influence

is conservapedia more your thing

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I'm gonna need a sauce on some actually biased elements in an article. The citations only coming from liberal media is to be expected if the only outlets reporting on the phenomena are liberal. Show me a Fox News article on the Great Replacement and you'll be justified in your complaint that they aren't represented on wikipedia.

One of the wonders of the modern world.

based and schizopilled

the trouble is that editors frequently delete or merge well written and notable articles with trash stubs about something irrelevant.
most recently that i have noticed, a well written article on "universalizing religions" (religions that want to convert all humanity, and animals, and even aliens, if they exist)
was deleted and replaced by a footnote on the 500 word stub article of a literally-who theologian.

i feel that this kind of behavior goes beyond the mere vanity and personal conflicts of editors, and veers more into an authoritarian and hyper-politicized censorship of any kind of information they deem dangerous.

metapedia actually

If you simply jewgle wikipedia anti-semitic, wikipedia anti-jewish, wikipedia antizionist, you'll find tons of complaints from right-leaning jews who say the same shit you're saying, but blame it on liberals and muslims. I think you're both fucking retarded, and the reason why wikipedia has bias is because it's a democratic encyclopedia, and democracy in a globalized world means nothing more than the loudest and persistent voices getting what they want, while everyone else gets fucked. It's not some grand conspiracy, it's just the way this shitty world works now.

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If I’m not mistaken, those same fagnuts also feel the Christian Bible is “too liberal” and have done a conservative edit.

Great, but also greatly misunderstood. Wikipedia exists to be a source aggregator, with an extra summary for quick reading pleasure. Sadly, people don't understand this, and think the extra blurb is the main object, and not the sources.

Wow, color me surprised. Turns out that when 80% of the world (or rather, those who write sources) are left-aligned, the Wikipedia articles will be too. Want to change it? Just have a paper published in which you write with a right-wing tone. None of this is Wikipedia's fault, nor the fault of its editors. You can write the most vile, horrible, inhuman shit on Wikipedia articlespace as long as you have a proper source to back it up. That nobody wants to write such sources is a different problem, one that you can fix.

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>Want to change it? Just have a paper published in which you write with a right-wing tone. None of this is Wikipedia's fault, nor the fault of its editors. You can write the most vile, horrible, inhuman shit on Wikipedia articlespace as long as you have a proper source to back it up. That nobody wants to write such sources is a different problem, one that you can fix.
Doesn't it hurt to lie this hard?

MediaWiki is the worst wiki software ever.

Perhaps you'll have trouble finding a publisher who wants to publish it. But that's not Wikipedia's fault. Wikipedia just summarizes its sources. I'm 6K and counting on enWiki, so I know how this shit works.

currently the sysops are having a mental breakdown. they're in open revolt of the WikiMedia Foundation. 5 Sysops have been banned/resigned in protest. They're reversing WMF's bans. It's literally going nuclear. Accusations of GAMERGATE 2.0 have been thrown by the Chair of the WikiMedia Foundation. (The chair, full disclosure, is in a lesbian relationship with a user who was involved in setting this bomb off.)
who will win? will wikipedia explode? will jimmy "jimbo bimbo bopper" wales resign? all this and more in the following links

Drama here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation's_ban_of_Fram

and here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:WMFOffice_-_Ban_Proposal

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>jewish media
Let me tell you faggots what happens
>Shit source makes some study/post
>Wikipedia puts it on their references
>future studies reference wikipedia
Top kek. No recognition for the real author unless Noble prize level.

>tfw bamboozled by free information

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Would you prefer some inbred king who only got into power because of his daddy

Thst is why it is called encyclopedia

>leftist
You mean liberal. I hate Americans.

>left-aligned
Jesus Christ stop talking about liberalism like it's left. Wikipedia isn't leftist, it's liberal for the most part.

modern left has as much to do with liberalism (classic liberalism) as a buffalo has to do with a pocket watch.

address the role of zionist israeli groups mass editing and controlling the wiki then i might take you seriously. Has nothing to do with left wing right wing. Its about zionism and jewish domination over information

Scholarly studies aren't allowed to reference wikipedia

>Great, but also greatly misunderstood. Wikipedia exists to be a source aggregator, with an extra summary for quick reading pleasure. Sadly, people don't understand this, and think the extra blurb is the main object, and not the sources.
Source on this?

You absolute fucking scum of the earth moron. You worthless fucking animal. You need a source on someone's opinion? He's clearly stating how he views wikipedia, and suggesting that others treat it that way. He's not saying that's what they (jimmy wales and co) set out to do. He's saying that's how it should be used. Asking for a source on his opinion is like asking a guy who says "burger is good" for a source on that. The source is him you fucking idiot. It's a statement of perception, not of fact. Thought it is true that in academic circles that is how wikipedia is used, and it is the only way one can use it. Anyway, are you this fucking braindead that you can't tell the difference? You should be ashamed of yourself. There is nothing you can possibly say or do that will redeem you. I hope you kill yourself tonight. Dilate. Dbdiaf. Kys. Fuck you.

A good free and open site that respects users' privacy. One of the few good parts of the internet left.
You are free to make your own "unbiased" wiki. There's no secret algorithm to copy, the source code has always been publicly available, storage costs are very low, and nobody is going to stop you. Please do that instead of whining about one of the last sites that cares about free knowledge. Focus that whining toward Youtube and Facebook.

*quickly brigades any less-than-literally-lenin articles with xir crew*
psssh nothing personal schizo

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>Wikipedia exists to be a source aggregator
Sure sounds like he's stating this as if it were a fact to me.

>greatly misunderstood
>people don't understand this, and think the extra blurb is the main object, and not the sources.
Stating this as if implying the people who think of it as its own content and not an index of external sources are not subjectively wrong, but objectively misinformed

Completely possible I'm eating some kind of bait here though

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Just mostly propaganda.
I don't mean in the "Jews control the world" way. But literal articles are "protected" by groups that will either edit it back right away or get their 30+ sockpuppets to back them up in "debates".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronda_Rousey#Relationships

Is a great example - her book explains she slapped her ex once, he blocked the exit and told her she wasn't allowed to leave, so she punched him twice and threw him to the floor, then he blocked it again and she punched him again, then ran away and he followed her, tried to grab her out of the car and she fought him off.

The article makes it seem like she abused him. Why? Because she's a meanie who didn't want to fight a MTF who legit nearly killed a female fighter

we're just pointing out the obvious buddy. Only a fool or a jew would reply to criticism by imploring them to "create their own."

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Apart from the sources which I agree are horrible even for the german article does the articles miss represent the topic? Reading it so far I don't see anything wrong with the article. Then again I never read anything about the great replacement.

I did good in the interview and got the job thanks to reading like 10 wikipedia pages 2 hours before it

It's fucking amazing on the outside and scary on the inside. Basically like the rest of the Interwebz.

Reality has a leftist bias, deal with it brainlet.

I would rather the article be shorter than include only these sources. If they’re citing to the SPLC and ThinkProgress, they might as well include perspective from RedIce, Taki’s Mag, or whatever the current far right-biased news sources are right now. Instead people claim that those are just propaganda, or too extreme, to include. That is nonsense. Either have both or neither.

I’ve worked on academic journals, and this sort of sloppy, biased research and citation work is a contributor to the slow decline of academic discourse. Just because you can pull information from a series of one-sided sources doesn’t mean you should.

I’ll continue to use Wikipedia when I need to know what the climate is generally like in a distant country, or how much the average tiger weighs, but not for anything beyond those inconsequential, superficial facts.

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