hi guys. I am a developer which started yesterday developing a Reddit - Jow Forums alike platform. I am looking to launch it by monday. I am using a really scalable database designed for sorting data by a rank. What would you like to see in a better version. Things I am planning to implement.
0. Better UI. Intuitive 1. Nested comments like on Reddit. 2. Optionally to register to avoid the recaptcha. But still you can chose to post without a username. 3. Video preview thumbnails 4. Avoid deleting older threads. 5. Goro mode. This is quite hard to achieve, but we will filter the images to hide the goro ones. If you click the hiden images, you can see them. All goro images will by hidden by default, unless you set up the goto mode enabled. 6. Using your account, you can create & administrate your own channels 7. Internationalize - allowing ppl to create national 4chans on the platform as well.
by monday? do you have a team of 20 developers? no fucking way you can implement all those features in 2months alone, let alone by monday..
Gavin Wright
the UI is fine the way it is.
Jace Ortiz
> by monday? do you have a team of 20 developers? no fucking way you can implement all those features in 2months alone, let alone by monday.
Today, I started the dev based on a previous bootstrap. It is using Node.js + Vue.js + Redis.
So far, I did a UI. I will get some help from my friend so finish the UI.
So far, in one day, I have implemented: backend+frontend + layout + creation of channels ( converting names into slugs) + localization + checking channels + sorting ranking like on Reddit based on their formula. Taking in consideration also the country the channel was set in.
I am planning tomorrow to finish the threads, comments & captcha.
Sunday, I will finish video preview thumbnails ( i have a briliant idea :XD ). Maybe login & register
Brayden Allen
> the UI is fine the way it is.
I am a computer geek, and this UI is horrible. I never get it. It is nearly impossible to use it.
Jackson Nelson
Jow Forums's UI is fine as it is. Please don't copy Reddit's nested comments, they're shit. And don't add an upvote system. You can quote posts f you click on the numbers at the top of them
Leo Reyes
Fuck off redditfag
Parker Morgan
No voting system. But the comment system i would prefere to be like reddit style. It makes more sense to answer to somebody directly instead of having a timeline based chat.
Levi Campbell
What other suggestions do you guys have in mind that are missing on Jow Forums ??
Leo Martinez
Kill yourself
Jeremiah Jackson
Nested comments are shit. This is supposed to be a discussion platform, you can't follow a discussion if the posts aren't in chronological order.
Joseph Moore
lmao are you serious? you must be fucking slow as hell. sites like facebook, Jow Forums & leddit take less than a week's worth of work to do.
Evan Garcia
Make it possible to report jannies. God some of these fuckers deserve a fate worse than death.
webm with sound, support for other formats (like webp and mp4), a captcha that doesn't suck ass
Jaxson Martin
Notification on (You)
Nicholas Williams
Good ideas. I am thinking allowing ppl to share links with thumnail and to do a simple recaptcha like on 8cn
Joshua Ortiz
Do not do nested comments. They make no fucking sense if the thread gets above a certain size. This guy gets it.
Nathaniel Hill
Kys this site is completely fine
t. Paid Hiro shill
Bentley Jones
Push notifications are on the bucket list
I finally got it. It makes sense. Especially that i used telegram and i do like to read the flow of the content
Asher Perry
is this gonna be open source?
Luis Peterson
Needs to allow me to post anonymously and it can't hide/bump posts based on likes/dislikes. That shit is why I don't use reddit in the first place.
Angel Gutierrez
Yes. It will be open source
Jaxon Garcia
link what you've written so far.
Hunter Evans
what's the backend stack, language, framework, DB?
Nolan Allen
Atm it is private on github. I will let you know guys when i will launch it
Noah Bennett
Have you tried suicide? Please do.
Brody Watson
Nodejs, express, redis db, vue2
John White
>Redis as DB it's going to be trash
Carter Barnes
Fuck nested comments, they suck. Conversations in real life don't work like that, why should websites work like that? Give every post a number, use links to the number to reply to a post, and an option to toggle nesting and non nesting in case someone wants to follow a conversation after the dust has settled.
If you're going to include post rating, up and downvotes are no good. People need way more low-effort reactions available to them so it's a lot clearer just how the aggregate feels about a post. This should include I agree, You're an idiot, this makes me feel sad, gross, that's hot, good question, informative, dumb question, are you okay, shots fired, nobody cares, and you sure seem upset. Vary the vavaliable options by subsection (simple up and downvotes can work on a humor board, but not other places!)
What is a goro. I have never heard of a goro. If you mean gore just make it against the rules that stuff is genuinely unpleasant, it's just that you get empathetically fatigued after a while of seeing a lot of it, but nobody actually WANTS to see that.
Old threads should be deleted, but have a curated archive where users can vote for threads they want to keep.
I think you're allowing for nationalization, not INTERnationalization (which is the default on most web sites). There's nothing wrong with that, but enforce it with IP region locking.
DON"T USE GOOGLE RECAPTHCA, IMPLEMENT A CAPTACHA THAT RUNS ON YOUR SERVERS INSTEAD! This can and has been done. There are even free and open source options you can use already.
Jaxon Moore
Why so ? Zlist is good for sorting. It allows clustering as well
Kevin Bell
a loli/shota board
Jackson Reed
relational databases exists and haven't been made obsolete for 40 years for a reason
Jacob Smith
Pro Tip: Instead of using this shitty post number stuff we've got on Jow Forums, have the first post of every thread be #1 and each post after that add on to it. Like Kareha message boards. It makes much more sense.
Cooper Lewis
moot was a 15yo faggot and copied source to make Jow Forums. It took a week.
Jack Martin
don't allow trannies as mods. Don't create a LGTB board,
Cameron Wilson
Thx a lot for the time answeing this. I appreciate it. You guys convinced me to try timeline comments.
Gore and porn as well. My idea was to allow ppl to report gore & p0rn making it more curated. But in case u like that you need to enable the gore and u will see. By default it will be disabled
Easton Gonzalez
>1. Nested comments like on Reddit. Stopped reading there.
Oh. so you're a rulecuck. Ok, thats fun. Well I'll never use your site.
Liam Diaz
Excellent idea. I was thinking the same. Love u
Trannies need medication not Jow Forums
Asher Anderson
>curated authoritarian scum go and stay go
Alexander Ross
you do know that you will face multiple development and political difficulties if you try to recreate reddit or Jow Forums right? I like that you are motivated to do stuff, but you should know that the path ahead is very hard.
Kevin Sanders
Really good comparison. Thx a lot
Brayden Green
>you I know. I just want to create something that ppl want to use it
Lincoln Thompson
>Trannies need medication not Jow Forums
tell them that
Jose Gomez
What do you think about avatars ?? Would you like to have an avatar ?
William Murphy
well.... I was like you, but then I saw that one of the thing I wanted to do - something like dissenter, but not focused on politics was made by people who have more experience than me and then it was attacked and attacked by people who have a political agenda. This whole thing just showed mee that even if you make something like dissenter and market it as a non-politics based platform, politics will fly into it like a plane flies into a building on 9/11 - there will be politics and it will be as popular as it is on Jow Forums - Jow Forums is the biggest board. This means that if you make a platform ffor people to speak you must either go full free speech - which means you lose the lefites and normies or you go full censorship, which means that you still lose a lot of users. All of this means that you cannot make a platform for discussing ideas in a time where everyone is charged with some political opinion. Basically I am trying to tell you to either work on stuff that are not related to any discussions, or to wait for a time when people are more reasonable ( if you are alive ). You may also focus on other countries / languages if you are not american. Otherwise..... just know that once you solve the technological problem you will face an even bigger problem.
Luke Jones
What do you mean attacked. Were the developers attacked online or the community? Was it in the States or abroad. I do like free speech especially it makes ppl engage
Joshua Morgan
if we are talking about gab ( parent company of dissenter ) -> they were attacked both from their hosting provider, and their banks and also the dissenter extension was removed from the chrome store and the gab app was removed from the google and apple stores. They now have a shitty browser that is a fork of brave -> a shitty solution that is probably too bad to last.
Same thing has happened with voat and with Jow Forums -> these platforms are under constant attack.
If you really are motivated to do a platform and want major players to support it.... you may have to have strong moderation and forget about freedom of speech.
Lincoln Sanchez
no. I don't want to have to go through the headache of picking a good one and people have a very unfortunate inability to disregard a poster's avatar when evaluating their posts. Besides, if posting as user is enabled, having avatars really detracts from that sort of experience where you don't feel the weight of your reputation hanging over you.
Easton Nguyen
I was just thinking how much it sucks that it's impossible for a reddit style chan (where any user can create and maintain a new imageboard) to exist without it getting overrun with aggressively retarded spergs like 8 ch
Anthony Jackson
>Reddit-Jow Forums Do yourself a favor, kill yourself
Easton Butler
Thanks. I will do
Ryder Fisher
Any website is going to have an over representation of aggressively retarded spergs anyway. After all, everyone else has to go to school and go to work. You just don't see them too much on normie social media, because of the algorithms that promote popular and advertiser friendly content over all else. That and you kinda see mostly what you want to with the picking who you follow thing.
Ayden Ortiz
8ch already tried this and is a failure. What will you do to allow your website to succeed?
Adam Peterson
Make a site that is light. I can open Jow Forums without a problem, but I tried to enter reddit and it's heavy/slow as fuck.
Ryan Hughes
If you spend 2 seconds playing with the settings on Jow Forums, you can get that "nested comments" shit you're so hungry for, you autistic retard.
>chronological posts like forums or chans >terrible signal-noise ratio >must scroll through pages of shitposts
>reddit/hackernews nested comments >becomes circlejerk around few top posts >voting amplifies echo chamber
theres no way to win
Charles Rivera
You are clearly not very familiar with the history of 8 ch. This is not just just the typical problem of moderating a retarded userbase. 8 ch was a good idea on paper but as with any chan offshoot became the colony of Jow Forums refugees too aggressively spastic to be contained here, and eventually other schizophrenics like the Q crowd. Fredrick Brennan basically cannot own a bank account now and I remember him on a livestream flush red with rage because his own userbase was aggressively trying to prevent new users from joining. The only reason it still exists is because it's a vanity project for a corrupt pornographer in the Philippines now, and even recently retards there got a streaming site shut down because for no particular reason they doxed all the administrators and server hosts and sent them cum tributes of their elementary school aged children.
I may sound mad, I am a bit because a great show (Southern Povery Call Center) died because of them but I'm honestly mostly just in awe of how cancerous they are.
Nathan Reed
I have an idea but I'll have to become a patent troll to get it done
Michael Ward
I thought about a similar idea before, but at the end of the day it is not about functionality, but about opportunity (luck). R*ddit would have never become big without the great Digg migration, and Jow Forums would have stayed a 'secret anime/haxor club' were it not for the huge flocking of the altright from g*mergate to 2016 election. V*at (free speech r*ddit clone) and 8ch*n (free speech Jow Forums clone with improvements) are both insignificant and are just hubs of p*dophiles and retards who got tired of being banned from the other websites. Good luck with it anyway. If you are a student or a literal learntocode fag then it will look good on your resume/portfolio. (changed some words because Jow Forums thinks this post is a spam for some reason)
>V*at (free speech r*ddit clone) and 8ch*n (free speech Jow Forums clone with improvements) are both insignificant and are just hubs of p*dophiles and retards There are probably less pedos there than in any Mainstream media office building in america.
Kevin Bell
Can we see a screenshot or demo of the frontend?
Samuel Martinez
>If you are a student or a literal learntocode fag then it will look good on your resume/portfolio. would it even do that though? tech is filled with faggots, if you put anything in your public portfolio indicating you've worked on something relating to imageboards it is a legitimate possibility you could face a job interview from some tranny or hypersensitive pussy who associates chan culture with alt right donald trump hackers. Some of these idiots even think reddit is some kind of MRA breeding ground
Evan Gutierrez
You're just going to get demotivated if you linger around here for too long.
The vast majority of tech companies, even in the faggiest places in silicon valley, are not like that. Your perception is influenced too much by the ridiculous stuff SJWs are pulling off in the tech world, but they certainly still are a vocal yet negligible minority. You can also present your board as a 'safe space' and say you are working on a functionality that auto-detects 'hateful' messages.
Julian Garcia
Why did you censor the words gamergate reddit vlat pedophiles and 8ch?
Only the latter flags you for spam
Christian Barnes
I didn't know which one triggers the spam since I rarely use any of those words.
Wyatt Torres
The absolute state of zoomer webdevs
Parker Perry
>What do you think Jow Forums is missing ? VP9
Austin Morgan
>4. Avoid deleting older threads. Excuse me but what?
Listen you dumb nigger, I've done exactly what you're about to do. Remake something that already exists, laid the groundwork, make it look fancier than the original and give it more features to make it look and feel on paper better than the original On the very same paper it tells you everything looks fool proof, you've advertised in the right places you think you've done everything right and you launch And poof no one comes or a hundred or two hundred come then activity dies out and now you're out of pocket and have wasted your time.
To make a new alternative is to be in the right time and coincidentally, the right place because of that and because no one is praying for a new alternative your website no matter how much better you think it'd be won't succeed in pursuading people to use it let alone be swayed by a face lift.
just throw everything out and start from this. I'll probably type out some overlap anyway. 1. imageboard 2. imageboard 3. temporary registration only, nothing permanent and nothing that could be logged beyond IP. Else no registration 4. why should anything have animated thumbnails? the whole point is to be a low-size and low-resource placeholder. do you also like animated ads when browsing the web? 5. archival is fine 6. local self-moderation tools are a must 7. you are describing an open source project and having bleedthrough isn't necessarily desirable. 8. why have boards at all? use premade tags and let people opt in/out of tags and add their own specific "subject" tags 9. voting systems are universally retarded 10. high level moderation to keep posts on the topic of their assigned tags is a must 11. very, very open moderation, mod logs should typically be longer than any post they delete even if that means a lot of form posts 12. host in a country that tells rulefags to fuck off. your kingdom, don't be beholden to copyright trolls or shitholes like NZ/UK run by pro-censorship governments 13. keep your site focused around a small core of topics, and do not include an off-topic section. hangers-on and trendfollowers can go straight to hell if they won't engage with the actual site demographic.
William Kelly
this, the thing so many developers don't seem to understand is that nobody wants something new, you need to offer something radically new or happen to be available when the status quo changes
Aaron Miller
>0. Better UI. Intuitive Jow Forums's UI is fine as it is. >1. Nested comments like on Reddit. Absolutely retarded! >2. Optionally to register to avoid the recaptcha. But still you can chose to post without a username. I wouldn't wish to give out my info. >3. Video preview thumbnails Seems okay >4. Avoid deleting older threads. Where would you store them? >5. Goro mode. This is quite hard to achieve, but we will filter the images to hide the goro ones. If you click the hiden images, you can see them. All goro images will by hidden by default, unless you set up the goto mode enabled. >6. Using your account, you can create & administrate your own channels Best not to >7. Internationalize - allowing ppl to create national 4chans on the platform as well. Like 8ch >What do you think of those ? >What do you think Jow Forums is missing ?
Jow Forums is quite fine as it is. It is a completelg anonymous imageboard which is unfiltered. No nested comments, no likes and dislikes. If you say something stupid, you will get called out on it. This is the true free speech place, unlike Plebbit and others.
Nicholas Nelson
I know right? I don't understand how people can work so fast. Either we are slow or these people have built something similar before and are basically just writing it for the second time.
(How do I become fast like you guys? D:)
Lincoln Reed
This is literally just fucking 8ch*n Why in the world would you want r*dditchan in the first place? There's no issue with Jow Forums, it's perfect as is, creating some bastard child of it and r*ddit for no particular reason is just pure faggotry.
>designed for sorting data by a rank Are you implying this might have upcummies? Just fuck off, upcummies are the worst fucking part of any modern social platform, they generate circle jerks and program you, chans are the one fucking solace from them (although with all muh based and redpilled even we're getting that garbage) >b-bu-but it curates the good stuff!! so people don't have to sift through shitposts!!! Doesn't change the previous fact. Sifting through shitposts is better than circlejerk collectivist programming.
>6. Using your account, you can create & administrate your own channels The 8ch*n user generated board meme is fucking stupid since it just eventually devolves into 80ish big boards everyone uses with no one using the rest, it's completely pointless
As for suggestions if you still insist on doing this, the national boards thing is cool, just have auto generated boards for each country, and maybe a better moderation system