Does there actually exist a single study about long term low level microwave-length radiation exposure...

Does there actually exist a single study about long term low level microwave-length radiation exposure? Or is this whole 5G thing speculation on both sides?

inb4 studies about other wavelengths

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation
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Biological aspects of mobile communication fields

semanticscholar.org/paper/Biological-aspects-of-mobile-communication-fields-Lin/37a082aaf8c92feb8a9668e7c7dc15fbfc899dff

>bioinitiative.org
>orsaa.org
thousands of studies about EMF. maybe theres something in there.

>single study about long term low level microwave-length radiation exposure
There are hundreds of studies.

the concern isn't that it's this new untested wavelength that might be dangerous but that it has to use significantly higher power because higher frequency wavelengths have shit penetrative power

EMF is nothing new and 5G is 3 different frequencies. It won't hurt you, retard.

there has been no extended scientific study mimicking the conditions that humans will be exposed to, in the 5G (20-36Ghz) wavelengths. anyone telling you otherwise is lying.

>show me one study where they found it harmful
none exist, they were never performed

>show me one study where they found it safe
none exist, they were never performed

the paranoia and the defensiveness are both sides, justified. bottom line? if you live anywhere with 5G, you are a living human test subject.

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theres no interference whatsoever between your body and radio waves. Radio waves are generally non-ionizing and thus can be safely ignored.

I'll follow up this post with saying that if anyone finds a way to utilize/hack 5G infrastructure to steal money or harm organics, and then publicize that information, it will force a recall.

i think you are attempting to infer that radio waves, which are everywhere, are within the 5G range and are safe by virtue of the fact that people are not falling over dying when they turn on their car radio.

the wavelengths used in AM/FM broadcasting are at minimum, 200x less in their frequency than the lowest 5G signal. even though radio waves are classified as ranging up to 300Ghz, the typical brand of "radio waves" as the public awareness goes, doesn't exceed 1.6Ghz.

so not really something you can, as you say, "safely ignore," lol.

5G is just the right size to mess with sweat ducts (since they are coil shaped and filled with sodium rich electrolyte fluids)
at worst people will suffer more from not sweating (which isn't that big of a deal except for times of extreme heat)
in a sense longer wavelenghts of EMF are more dangerous for your kidneys and piss ducts since they penetrate skin and tissue more easily, though troughout years there has been no significant increase in kidney dieseases

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>m-more is better (worse)
not with radio faggot

for anyone who cares about 5G tech passionately and is justifiably curious about their health and well-being; remember cigarettes.

for 70 (read: 7-0) years, people were sold cigars and cigarettes without public knowledge that they KILL. true, they were not always loaded with the synthetics that they were in the 90s; but they always killed. and they were always marketed as "doctor endorsed," and "even your local dentist smokes Camels!" there was no reason to dive into the harmful effects and repercussions of smoking. the companies selling them were huge, and the USA had a war to win, and a golden age to enjoy.

the same is right now. telecom is hugely a part of our everyday lives. we wouldn't fathom a world where we wouldn't be able to geolocate, download a quick game, access a crypto-exchange and make a few trades. 5G opens up the opportunity to make VR mobile, and to open up businesses and consumers to the internet-of-things. it's almost like the B2B version of cigarettes, but at cost to the humans--not the businesses.

be wary. if there's a timeline where we as humans figure out that invisible pulsations of radio frequencies--the stuff of the universe--affects invisible elements of our psyche, or inhibits our cognitive function, or prevents our consciousness from expanding to new heights, or impairs cellular regeneration, or suppresses sexual dimorphism, it likely will not be in our lifetime. or if it is, it will only be after the first test subjects have been exposed--which include you.

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>m-more is not worse! haha fag!

uh-huh. go put your head in a microwave, faggot. those are high-frequency radio waves.

The frequency of visible light is even higher. You only get some minor effects on the far blue end of the spectrum while anything used for data transmission is way lower than the red end.

wow you're right user that 2.45ghz microwave is so dangerous, good thing wifi is only 2.4ghz, I sure hope nobody comes out with a 5ghz spec any time soon

They're also around 600-1000W directed to pass back and forth through the interior of the microwave, while 5G is around 50-100W from a tower omnidirectional, and your phone is 2-3W.

We live in a world where the tinfoil hats are right. Never forget.
patents.google.com/patent/US3951134A/en

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And your 3W phone emits ionizing radiation. And you can't have radio waves without ionizing radiation because they're literally a subset of ionizing radiation.

>it may fry your food but it won't fry your brain

Lol, no you dumb shit.

Power levels are the difference.

But your body likely protects itself better to those frequencies.
Longer waves might be an issue.

No.
Some radio waves over 700THz (aka UV-Light and up) are ionizing. The rest is non-ionizing.
radio waves are a subset of electromagnetic radiation but not all electromagnetic radiation is ionizing dummy.

>particles moving around at high speed are not ionizing
What's even the point of going to Jow Forums if the users went to public schools and gobbled up government propaganda?

bye then :^)

You are, right now, radiating about 100W just by being alive.
Your body can deal with 3-5W of heating far more easily than 600+W. You can sit by a window in direct sunlight for hours and at worst you'll be uncomfortable.

Thanks for understanding, I hope you find antther site that will accept you, but don't come back to this one.

but see Which suggests a statistically significant effect of certain lower freq wave levels on brain tumours and leukaemia.

That's not how ionizing is defined.

>particles
>speed
Where the fuck in the post you quoted did I write about particles or speed?

>it only heats it up, it's not like a random electron will shoot off or anything

Exactly. It won't.

>Does there actually exist a single study about long term low level microwave-length radiation exposure?

No, there exists thousands.
But let's ignore them all because autism is stronger than science.

Nigger you can't heat up shit using electromagnetic radiation without ionization.

You are heating up your room right now with electromagnetic radiation.

And in case I wasn't being clear enough.
YOUR BODY IS PRODUCING ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION.

>YOUR BODY IS PRODUCING ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION
I'M NOT A FUCKING ZOGBOT LIKE YOU

Xray technician here
There is a lack of long term studies.
However workers on high voltage power lines have proven to have increased rates of leukemia and blood cancer, which is associated with radiation
Power line workers are exposed to high levels of EM radiation
Also people living in houses under powerlines also are exposed and have higher rates

There is an alarmingly small base of studies saying if its safe or not. Better safe than sorry!

You're dead, then?

>when the only thing on the NPC's programming is SERVE ISRAEL OR DIE GOY

I really don't see how they could do anything except excite us through waves.

This.
There is a inherit risk with 5G.
Humanity needs to take it because we need it.

Isn't the main concern about the amount of time you are around/close to the antennas. If you live in a busy city where they're fucking everywhere this is concerning.

>make ignorant statements
>get faced with examples showing how ignorant those statements area
>abort abort
>ignore the topic, attack the person
Painfully common. Ionization is not necessarily a byproduct of heating. You would need to input a LOT of energy to get ionization to occur.

In Australia house prices of houses near lines decrease due to the potential risk of health issues.
People are treating 4G, 5G and other EM wave communicators the same way.

Nobody really knows what it's doing to us. Some professionals argue either way. One day, people will either consider the use of these things as harmless and theories against the use of them "ignorant", or they will consider the use of them as the "arsenic green wallpaper" of this age.

What about the "beats" from the interaction of several frequencies of waves? Wouldn't that be a potential cause of ionisation?
That's my greatest concern. There may be areas in our cities where the confluence of several EM waves creates a high freq wave that can cause ionisation.

>go to Jow Forums
>WHY DOESN'T MIND CONTROL WORK ON YOU???

Hi Ivan.

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Because this isn't Jow Forums. We actually think for ourselves here.

No. Such an interaction would increase the energy at that point in space but not change the frequency of the wave to become ionizing. An electron may get extra excited, but it'll just throw off more photons, not exit the atom itself.

The problem isn't so much the frequency, it's the power level

Lower frequency go farther with less power, because less energy is wasted going through matter.

In Europe, the limitation for 2.4Ghz is 10mW, and 25mw for 5.8Ghz. The range is about 20 to 50 meters without obstacles, and about 5-15 meters with some obstacles (walls, furnitures).

On the other hand, 60Ghz is shit when it comes to range: The TP-link Talon AD7200 has 250mW of power, but it get immediatly blocked by a human body, even when you're very close to the router (see youtu.be/6y3KAbpQpCk?t=367 , sorry for the shit youtuber couldn't find anything else).

The only way 5G is going to work is either a fuckton of 5G routers, but even then each router should need 1000mW to work decently, Or few massive 5G towers, with 100W of transmitting power (for this kind of power we do have studies, and basically if live nearby you're pretty much guaranteed to get cancer, see sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/11/181101133924.htm).

same

They'll still have to abide by the SAR limitations.

Seriously if none of you cs grads are able to find a single article or study linking RF/microwave radiation to at least increase of oxidative stress in the exposed control group, then the education system has failed you. There are numerous studies leading to the activation of ROS metabolism in exposed organisms, which causes long term DNA and nerve deterioration (and that is common knowledge for some time actually).

Low intensity radiation doesn't produce "beats", it passes through without interacting. Light intensities high enough to produce such effects(called nonlinear effects) would instantly vaporize you.

If your body's temperature is above 2 Kelvin you produce microwave radiation.

my gf has bigger tits than her

Impressive for a tranny.

The big problem is that we have no statistical incidence rates for any negative effects yet.
We already have studies that prove things like eating red meat frequently increases your risk of cancer by 18%, and it is well known that alcohol increases your risk of cancer, particularly in people who are predisposed to it (they already have one of the bi ological triggers) but nothing for EMF.

Nothing on humans, and nothing on 4G or 5G. There have been studies on Wi-Fi and older generations of cell data, but I wouldn't say the findings were anything conclusive, at worst I would say there would need to be human subject observation.
The 5G conspiracy theories are rooted in mostly emotional arguments.
Comparison to tobacco is a false equivalence unless you can demonstrate industry shilling or any other form of negligence toward health risks. There are certainly no ads like "cigarettes don't kill you, we swear!" from Verizon or the like.
The last part of your post isn't coherent at all.

Found a diglett with 31 special defence IVs, how much is that worth?

Wrong thread

I'll pay you a dollar for it

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Well we dont have any 'clean' studies because it's nearly impossible to get an unaffected control group. But the increased risks by long-term exposure to EMF is confirmed in numerous studies on both animals and plants, at least for 2,35-2,5 GHz bandwith.
It was the same thing with ELF EMF back in the day, everyone is adapting norms, you can read about their negative effect on health in architecture guidlines and books, however correlating studies are still bashed for methodological reasons.

There have been a few studies attempted of long-term 5G exposure to humans, but none have been completed because the researchers all died of radiation complications. So there's no definitive answer yet.

>implying researchers would act as the guinea pigs

haha, degree-holding researchers? true!
graduate students? expendable.

Even graduate students wouldn't use themselves as guinea pigs.

>Low intensity radiation doesn't produce "beats"
>EM Radiation doesn't superimpose
Doubt it.

can confirm

NON
IONIZED
RADIATION
CANNOT
HARM
DNA
YOU STUPID FUCKING YUROPOORS

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You're delusional

>18%
RELATIVE risk, ie from 1% up to 1.18%.. also, that 'study' was garbage filled with uncontrolled confounding factors, so it can't even 'prove' even that statistical hickup

jesus are you a zoomer that needs BIG NUMBERS to understand that in global scale even 0.18% is much?

At that point, you could argue that the benefits outweigh the small risk.

So you'd be okay to stand in front of a microwave oven without a door? We know for a fact high levels of microwave radiation, which is non-ionizing, nevertheless cause heating and tissue damage.

HARM
TO
DNA
IS
NOT
THE
ONLY
EFFECT
OF
ELECTROMAGNETIC
RADIATION
GO
STICK
YOUR
HEAD
IN
A
MICROWAVE

It's fat, user. Your gf is fatter than her.

There's a publication that marks Ca+ channels as a target. That means wifi can affect the brain.

The real problem with this is it's the same issue as smoking on a even bigger scale. Nobody really wants to know it's bad.

You do realize microwave ovens operate at 600-1000 watts while cell towers operate at like 60 max and your phone at about 3? Also that's not ionizing radiantion, it's just happens to heat up water. Anything off a bit won't do shit to anything. Also yes, if totally be okay with standing in front of an open microwave while it's as far away as your typical cell tower. In fact, I'd stand in front of it with about 3 meters between me and the opening, since radiowaves decrease in intensity exponentially the further one steps away from the source.

You can change behaviour by deactivating brain regions with EM. There have been various experiments. No idea about how much juice /precision you would need for that though.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation
here's a intro.

5G
IS
NOT
A
MICROWAVE
OVEN
YOU ABSOLUTE IMBECILE

Yes, and that study only tested on in vitro cells so it doesn't show how an organism may correct for those effects.

Your correction mechanism is a self-regulating loop. If you are constantly under the same influence it will do splendid but if it jumps around it's won't do shit. It's the same problem as dropping anti-depressiva cold- it can't instantly adjust.

But that's only speculation.

The mechanism is established. It doesn't fix itself in any other instance so speculation would be rather on the side of how it could do better in this instance.

Show me.

What?

russian botnet out in full force today

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All studies saying it's not harmful are funded by the industry.

Wrong.
Actual statistics are around:
Funded: 70% harmless 30% harmful
Unfunded: 30% harmless 70% harmful

>Or is this whole 5G thing speculation on both sides?
5G to 1G goes from "extremely bad" to "bad". It's good that people have started questioning this madness but it's a bit late.

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Do it, user

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Can you imagine what was going through someone's head as they made this abomination?
>inb4 5G waves

Proof for any of that?

>tfw tomorrow will mark one week of the 5g tranny schizo continuously melting down