wccftech.com/intel-10nm-ice-lake-sunny-cove-14nm-comet-lake-amd-ryzen-3000-cpu-z-benchmark-leak/ >During the announcement of their 10nm Sunny Cove architecture at Computex, Intel unveiled that they have achieved an 18% IPC improvement with some workloads showing an IPC improvement of up to 40% over Skylake architecture. Now like AMD’s claim of 15% IPC improvement, there are no independent sources to confirm Intel’s figures of 18% IPC uplift so we have to wait till both chip makers launch their respective products in the market so reviewers can fact check their claims.
>While we wait for these products to launch, a Chinese forum member has posted what seems to be several AMD and Intel chips along with their single-core performance numbers in the CPU-z benchmark. The chips include AMD’s Ryzen 3000 series processors and Intel’s ES chips that will be featured in the 10th Gen Comet Lake and Ice Lake family.
>AMD’s Ryzen 7 2700X delivers a score of 488 points at 4.35 GHz while the Core i9-9900K ends up at 600 points with 5GHz so yeah, AMD did make some good IPC gains with Zen 2. Moving on to the Intel ES chips, we first need to talk about the 10nm Sunny Cove based Ice Lake CPUs. There are two chips listed, the Core i7-1065G7 (4 core / 8 thread) and a very early 6 core, 12 thread part with no codename. The Core i7-1065G7 oper5ates at 3.7 GHz and scores 639 points. For comparison, the Core i7-9700K with an overclocked frequency of 5.3 GHz scores 645 points and the reference Core i9-9900K scores around 600 points.
>The 6 core Sunny Cove part has a lower frequency of 3.6 GHz and scores 630 points which are still as good as a 5.2 GHz Kaby Lake-S and the Ryzen 7 3800X at 4.7 GHz. If (and a big if) these results are true, then after several years of no major IPC gain, Intel might finally have a big architecture win coming in the form of Sunny Cove on 10th Gen processors.
Ice lake does have a huge IPC improvement. It also seems like they can't clock it as high as the endless skylake variants. Also by the time these chips actually launch on desktop AMD legitimately will probably already have Zen3 out making this all irrelevant.
Chips are gonna sip power and be great for mobile though. Lower clocks and smaller process means lower power consumption.
Luis Morris
Imagine getting your tech news from streetshittertech.
Even the fucking Intel reddit concurs this is fake as hell. No fucking way did they achieve a 40-50% IPC increase.
I can't help but get hyped about possible big single thread increases on the desktop. If Sunny Cove delivers I'm likely ending up with Intel one more time. A new architecture is usually a good time to upgrade.
Justin Barnes
>Their 10nm is STILL fucking shit How would you know?
We've never seen a desktop class 10nm CPU from intel.
You somehow magically KNOW it's shit, despite never having been shown anything.
Intel got Jim Keller, sorry AMD shill, intel is going to be firing back hard when in 2020/21.
Even if Zen 3 is a big improvement, just remember, intel spends more on basic R&D in a quarter than AMD spends in an entire year.
Anthony Kelly
independent reviews would expose them and damage their brand reputation
Cooper Williams
Fake SOPA MACACO
Aiden Martinez
What motherboard is the 10th gen Intel going to be using, if you happen to know? I'm in the market for a new PC (100% Intel) and don't have the luxury of waiting but would like to not have to buy a whole new mobo to support 10th gen in a few years. Is there any way I can build a rig this week with a current CPU that will be supported in the 10th?
Angel Foster
>WCtech There's your answer.
Alexander Thomas
> independent reviews would expose them and damage their brand reputation
Oh, you mean like the 28-core 5 GHz all core chiller incident?
They don't give a single fuck, otherwise they wouldn't continue this migationless clownshow and presentations with pages full of small print to cover their asses.
Justin Taylor
Unlikely, it's such a massive change from the 14nm we've had the past few years, it will almost 100% require if not a new socket, then a new chipset.
And I would bet on a new socket too.
If you actually want 10th gen, just wait.
Ethan Thompson
Because you need magic node and magic new uarch to pull that off in ONE generation. Bulldozer -> Zen was an exception because of how bad bulldozer really was.
Parker Foster
>AMD can do it with Jim Keller >Intel can't do it with Jim Keller
okay...
Aaron Rogers
Reminder TSMC is ahead of Intel and they're already doing 5nm risk production.
Nathaniel Evans
They've kind of stopped doing this type of complete bullshit PR since then. If it was 10 years ago I don't think they'd care but with how much more outreach today's tech journos(especially on youtube) have even to casuals today they can't afford too many oopsies like that. Every stupid thing they do immediately turns into a meme and spreads like wildfire across the internet.
Logan Bailey
AMD 64 core Rome was expected to compete with Intel icelake 10nm cpus. Even AMD said they didn't expect Intel to shit the bed so badly with their 10nm.
Waiting is not an option, will be buying before July 1st. Guess I just have to bite the bullet. No chance this will be the same socket/chipset as the X-series? I could stretch to a high tier X series chip if it was going to be supported by 10th gen?
Chase Allen
Get 3950X in september, Intel won't have a response to the 16 core speed demon any time soon so they will stay crushed under AMD's boot.
Nicholas Ramirez
Lmao, good comeback retard, Jim Keller is in charge of all silicon development at intel, if anyone is in a position to fix their uarch, it's him.
and that suddenly means intel can't make a comeback why?
They've got a fuck ton of money, they've got the scientists and engineers to figure this shit out, they just need to buckle down and do it.
Previously they were holding back microarch designed for lower process nodes to ONLY release on those process nodes.
Now intel is switching to releasing whatever the newest micro arch they have on whatever the newest process node they have. This should spur development MUCH faster than previously.
Again, intel spends so much more than anyone else on R&D, if anyone can make a come back in just 2-3 years, it's intel.
Dylan Roberts
X299 has already been around for 2 generations, 7000x series and 9000x series CPUs.
10th gen X series will almost 100% be a new chipset, though may still use the 2066 socket. But eitherway, no motherboard you buy today will support it.
Josiah Miller
Sorry user Jim Keller can't save their 10nm disaster. They will have to dial it back to like 12nm.
Companies with less expertise, less money, and less advanced fabs can do it. But intel can't cause they're intel.
Lol, no one is saying intel hasn't dropped the ball and fucked up lately, but you're out of your fucking mind if you honestly think they have NO way to make a comeback.
Samuel Reed
christ allmighty, you think AMD is just gonna twiddle their thumbs for the next 12 months?
Logan Morris
It's pretty obvious intel are essentially handing 2019 to AMD. AMD are gonna need to milk it for all they can, and hope and pray intel drop the ball again in 2020.
No, but they have FAR less money to do anything about it. And they lost keller and several others to intel in recent years.
Intel also has their own fabs instead of relying on TSMC/GloFo
AMD is gonna have to work for it if they want to actually stay ahead of intel.
Austin Howard
How can i possibly make the clearer that AMD isn't an option fuck me AMDfags are insufferable how can you possibly be so blindly infatuated with a company get a grip you ultra giga fag there are reasons for both and my usage favours Intel it is that simple Thanks.
Austin Nelson
Because intel feature size is smaller even if they don't use a meme name like 7nm or 5nm.
Easton Robinson
they've lost their process advantage that's not something a company just comes back from
Ryder Ross
Where's Intel 10nm though?
Leo Stewart
>that's not something a company just comes back from How the fuck do you think they lost the advantage?
If a less company can somehow magically take the process advantage, that means intel can 100% take it back. They've got the funding to outspend every other player out there.
Eli Jenkins
>these are the sorts of people that post on Jow Forums
Henry Cook
take your you and get the fuck out
Brandon Reyes
Intel is shit. Just because you prefer shit doesn't mean it isn't shit, you retarded fanboy.
Evan Myers
>KELLERKELLERKELLERKELLER mike clark designed Zen keller is memed to death on this board Zen3 is not just going to be a simple node improvement there's talk of on-package RAM and active interposers
Lucas Nelson
>they lost the advantage but have ZERO chance of taking it back
what's it like in fantasy land?
Brayden Jackson
>mike clark Yeah he also designed bulldozer
GREAT CPU that one.
Logan Scott
other companies didn't take the advantage Intel bit off way more than they could chew, and suffered massive delays as a result how are you not getting this
Xavier Phillips
But where's 10nm?
Joshua Martin
>intel shill having a meltdown kek
Wyatt Martin
That was Mike Butler you retarded faggot.
Jaxon Taylor
Again, how the fuck are you not getting that intel is in a perfect position to break through and get shit done?
>AMD makes amazing comeback after faildozer >intel can't possibly ever comeback, they're literally going to go bankrupt
just kill yourself you biased prick, if AMD can do it, why the fuck can't intel who has a FUCK ton more funding and their own Fabs?
not zero chance, but the companies that couldn't keep improving their processes enough have now all gone fabless where do you think the knowledge and know-how even comes from to improve?
im not a fucking fanboy you deluded faggot i use intel because it is better FOR MY PURPOSES just like there are a large amount of purposes where AMD ALSO EXCELS HORSES FOR COURSES its not one size fits all it depends on the program you use some are optimised for intel some are equally prosperous for both and some work better with AMD, very few are purposely optimised for AMD though.
pathetic insufferable, low IQ worm
Luke Garcia
intel still has the money to fund their own fabs, just because they have been bumbling 10nm doesn't mean anything about future development.
Grayson Fisher
>mike butle chief architect bulldozer core ????
Noah Jones
>intel piece of shit retarded kike vermin calls anyone insufferable low IQ
Have fun installing endless secutity patches for your retarded piece of shit diseased CPU from the retarded piece of shit of a company with pozzed housefire abortions.
Luis Rogers
bulldozer bet on the wrong horse AND had to put up with GoSlo's less than stellar capabilities what would make a person think Intel can just race back to the front, when it takes ages to learn from a process and what do you think happens when that process has stalled for 4 years?
Nolan Davis
i dont even have the internet on my work machine you waste of space you dont have even the most basic grasp of real world uses for machines outside of gaming like a fucking child
Cooper Richardson
If Mike butler gets credit for faildozer, then Keller gets credit for Zen.
Mike butler was Chief architect of faildozer, Jim Keller was chief architect of Zen.
Mike clark was a senior architect on both Faildozer and Zen, not the chief architect.
Leo Robinson
jesus you AMD shills are fucking retarded and insufferable.
Parker White
All Intel shills should get the bullet and Holocaust never happened but it should have.
>he uses Intel because its better for his purposes >buy AMD even though its not in your best interests every. single. time.
even when you tell them that AMD is better in most scenarios in 2019, they have an autistic seizure at the slight hint that Intel has its advantages. its like a cult, a cult of penny saving neck beards
Angel Diaz
CPU-Z is not a very comprehensive benchmark, and with new architectures it can be completely unrepresentative. Remember when Ryzen was benching 50x faster than Intel?
Bentley James
Cool, now what should I do with this image? Do you think that guy was me or something?
Zachary Ramirez
?
Owen Turner
Even if it aint you, he was banned for the same shit.
Anti-semtic and racist ranting about intel posters.
Christopher Gomez
>its better for his purposes Purposes like uhhhhhhhhhhh what, making more kiketel propaganda slides?
for music production now suck my balls you waste of oxygen the chiplet architecture of AMD is an issue with serial processes every other usage i would buy AMD every single time. but for my usage, Intel is the obvious option. fuck me you're a dildo
Christian Green
>for music production larp
Andrew Gray
>if it's not gaming or shitposting it's larp
Jacob Long
my headphones probably cost more than every thing in your vision right now
just very convenient that some emotionally involved low-info retard tries to save face on an anonymous imageboard by giving the one example people would buy intel for
Jacob Phillips
Oh no, is this reverse of Pentium 5? Now they will introduce VLIW CPU and nobody will give 2 shits about it because memory management is hard.
Colton Young
Does this include all publicly available security patches?
Austin Bailey
the vsts on this screen cost more than your pc
these are my posts i am not low info but you are a low IQ drone
Carson Hill
>someone who claims they need intel because it's better for their use-case >posts THE primary use-case intel is better for
I mean...that's sorta a catch-22 aint it? Either he gives a use-case that isn't audio production and ye yell at him to buy AMD, or he says audio production and ye say he's larping.
Get fucked retard, AMD shills are fucking disgusting and you honestly make me not want to buy AMD even if it WERE the better choice.
Jacob Cook
How is it worse? Provide some example.
Kevin Wilson
Shush goy
Easton Flores
You realize you're quoting the person defending you right?
Quote this guy if you want to quote the person you're actually yelling at
Eli Garcia
my sound card costs more than your gpu you manchild
