Aspie but genius gorhill explains why uBlock Origin is superior to Pi-hole

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lord gorhill delivers the goods once again

well duh
pi-hole is just a shoddy php interface to dnsmasq's dns server and a /etc/hosts file

Pi hole shills are unbearable

Until pihole can block video ads on mobile applications, it'll remain inferior. Or not breaking webpage formating.

Based gorhill

No shit a browser extension is superior.
I think pi-hole is meant for devices on your network that can't get extensions like ublock, so you just point them to the pi-hole DNS server instead. It's better than nothing.

uBO is infinitely superior because
>blocks js per domain
>blocks injectable ads
>cosmetic filters
>element picker/zapper
>blocks media elements, remote fonts, CSP reports, webRTC leaks, hyperlink auditing, pre-fetching
>can be temporarely disabled per website, per device
>can block 1st party scripts with a single click, also 3rd party scripts and/or frames, also images

Meanwhile, with piHole
>waste a power socket
>waste an ethernet cable
>waste 50$ on the device
>only block muh domains

>Using anything except adnauseum

> Hacker News
To the trash it goes.

neat

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>shitty ad hiding browser extension, which will ultimately get killed by Google vs. actual ad blocking software, which is browser independent
Cope harder, gorshills.

>waste 50$ on the device
running just fine on orange pi zero that costs about 15$

You can run pihole in a vm.

Why not both?

Why are people so ardently against pihole?
>just use ublock origin
So you can’t fathom that there’s other people in the network and not necessarily on a computer but a tablet or a cell phone or even non techies who may not want/know to fool with the extensions to achieve a good result? Jesus it’s like you have no capacity to understand others may have different needs from your own

Neither replaces the other.
Why not use both?

>amp to html addon

Lmao. Just stop using google you fags.

Is there an html to amp addon?

>not using both

ghacks.net/2019/01/09/load-amp-articles-in-google-chrome-on-the-desktop/

Just use both, otherwise how do you block ads on your smart fridge?

the only correct answer.
ublock only protects your browser.
pihole won't protect you from anything inline and not feasible for domains which have ads in a subdirectory and outside of that everything else is required for the site to operate.

I'm pretty dumb, but isn't pihole the same thing as blocking the domains in your firewall? That's what I do (besides using uBlock).

>entire vm just to use a pihole
That's even more retarded

You don't need protection outside of your browser. Don't install malware.

Yes, but you can use it as a DNS no matter what network you're on, if you set it up that way.

And Pihole gives basic protection for things outside your browser window and all devices on the network.

>entire vm just to use a pihole
It would be a very lightweight VM.

>You don't need protection outside of your browser.
Don't tell me what I need or don't need nigger. You have zero fucking information of my needs and infrastructure.

what does element picker/zapper do?
Does it actually block those ads, or does it just hide them visually?

>not using ublock origin on every browser and blocking domains for your entire network at router level
ISHYGDDT
Browsers aren't the only programs that connect to the internet.

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ublock is good
if you run just pi hole you'll see a lot of failed to 'get' squares all around web pages etc. Not to mention if they run their ads on the same domain you're fucked
using both together is best

Element picker is mostly cosmetic, but if blocking the element will cause a request to fail or not be made then it does effectively block the ad rather than hide.

Congratulations on thinking VMs are just running a full commercial OS in some GUI program you absolute fucking retard

>just don't install malware
What a genius idea. You must be very smart. Keep this to advertising because you clearly have no idea about any level of cybersecurity

Honestly it's insane how a small handful of autists, like gorhill and that based easylist dude, are such a pain in the ass to a billion dollar industry. I'm genuinly curious what kind of offers these guys have been given to allow certain ads.

UMatrix or Ublock?

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umatrix and ublock origin

>Until pihole can block video ads on mobile applications

I thought it could already do this?

>It would be a very lightweight VM.


just use docker?

>mobile applications
>not using Youtube Vanced or some other crap
To be fair, I dont use or watch anything beyond porn and Youtube on my android so I don't know what you're on about.

Fucking hell, is it µblock or ublock?
Fucking autistic nigger software programmers using "µ" for their stupid name should be hanged by the balls.

>Jesus it’s like you have no capacity to understand others may have different needs from your own
I think that's a sign of autism.

user, why not use both?

The pihole has a single core VM that I've assigned 1024MB RAM and a few GB for the disk. And those specs are overkill. It runs on a fucking Raspberry Pi because it's just a DNS server with built-in filtering.

based chromium snake eating its own tail

>piHole
>cybersecurity
Kys, larper

>vm just for a pihole
Stop being retarded.
>those specs are overkill.
Exactly. Why are you wasting resources then?

They should go for something useful like ad guard instead then

I prefer to microsegment services whenever possible, even on my home network. Consolidation is for physical network devices and suckers. Docker is a fucking meme and security nightmare so I stick to VMs.

My host is at ~40% RAM utilization with about 19 GB free, so the difference between the pihole using 512MB or 1GB is inconsequential right now. The host CPU cores can be oversubscribed without issue since the pihole is basically idling unless I'm running updates or something. Giving it a thin-provisioned 16GB disk when I have >2TB free on the SAN is also inconsequential.

Resources are only wasted if they can be better utilized elsewhere and/or there's additional cost associated with the excess.

fuck and here I though that element picker actually blocks things form even loading, how can I do that?

>or there's additional cost associated with the excess.
Your PC is using thrice as much power as a raspberry would to do the same work

I have a dozen other VMs, of which 5-7 are always on. I'm not going to buy a physical device for a fucking pihole service, especially when I was already using the VM host before I created the pihole VM.

I could understand your argument in a scenario where there aren't any servers or other VMs in the home environment, but trying to make a case against virtualization on account of power savings is fucking retarded.

>trying to make a case against virtualization on account of power savings is fucking retarded.
If you really believe this then you're retarded.

You're retarded for disregarding resources being needed for producing the raspi.

>producing the raspi.
Nobody cares

I know, but the nature must be preserved..

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Should I use these filters?

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>Jow Forums post count drops to 0

Ideally you would use both (or a hosts file as a replacement for pi-hole). It helps blocking requests from other programs, specially ones that use embedded web browsers like Steam and Electron-based software.

Speaking of Steam, the web part of the client connects to Google Analytics, which pi-hole/hosts file blocks.

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>1Gb RAM for dns list downloader

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>it's just a DNS server
If we want to be anal about it, not really, since it still needs an upstream dns server as a source. Building a pihole+unbound (or anything similar) sending requests directly to root name servers is probably the closest you can get to a standalone dns server.

use both

512 mb of ram, 5 gb hd, you can run pihole, unbound and openvpn server on a headless vm like this and all works fine, anyone who says otherwise is a retard

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>not just using both
And how does Raymond expect me to block ads on devices that dont support uBlock? What a douche

based gorhill bending the jew to its knees

Pi Hole is literally the worst ad blocking solution. I can't believe people in Jow Forums are defending it. It slows down your network by a factor of 10 because it adds an extra hop in the network and doesn't run on specialized networking hardware.

not true, just learn to configure. add this rules to your iptables
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s 192.168.1.0/24 --destination-port 443 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -s 192.168.1.0/24 --destination-port 80 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -s 192.168.1.0/24 --destination-port 443 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable

This

>slows down your network by a factor of 10
compulsive lying at its worst

ayy lmao

>You don't need protection outside of your browser
Oh no, it's retarded

>slows down your network by a factor of 10
So you have absolutely no idea how DNS works do you?

>he doesn't know

You must be illiterate.

based and ubopilled

user, the difference between your computer asking a public dns server a query and a pihole or other dns forwarder asking a public dns server a query is ~1ms. parsing an acl beforehand adds a trivial amount of latency if stored in memory

Don't worry, I was told that gorshill is feeling very suicidal right now and is practicing some very perculiar suicide method right now, where he ties up his hands and then shoots himself twice in the back of the head from 2 meters away.

The Pi Hole is an internal DNS and all other traffic goes through the router?

I should have just went to their website. I thought it was people being retarded enough to use it as an extra router.

if there's a device that can't have ublock, then it shouldn't be on my network

see, this is the problem with getting a frostie from wendy's during the summer. you have to eat it really fast otherwise it gets too mushy

ublock doesn't protect the whole device though. Only what you do in the browser...

no, you can use it combined with a dns like unbound

yeah that's why I have ufw...

I don't understand why people don't just adblock with their router? Use adguard dns with openwrt adblock with ublock origin. Why stop at just one filter when they're all free?

Pihole is pointless when modern routers have better specs

ufw can use a host file to block ads?

people be ignant