Is Freedom on the Internet dead?

Is Freedom on the Internet dead?

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No one wanted to host your CP, faggot.

zeronet

we had this shit thread yesterday and nobody cared. fuck off

Cry some more

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>Peer to peer
>Censorship-resistant

Torrents are p2p as well... They're anything BUT censorship-resistant because all it takes is one peer in the whole swarm to be a narc for the MPAA or the government.

And what of Tor? Same thing. All you need is one single nark to run a Tor server for you to connect to and BAM! You're tracked while falsely thinking you're safe. That's how the CIA does it.

waaaaaah is muh interet freedum dead waaaaaaaaah

t. someone who doesn't know how tor works

>Thinking he knows how p2p technology works
>Respecting whoever's on the other end of the connection
Zoomers these days are way too gullible.

GNUnet is the future. It's also normalfag proofed.

Again, you have no idea how tor works.

Congrats! you're fucking retarded

>Samefagging over someone who's right
Poor OP got btfo by the truth

>OP doesn't know what's a poisoned torrent
It's a torrent in which one of the seeds is actually a computer owned by a private investigator hired by the MPAA, usually found on torrents for popular movies. Thanks to that one peer in the swarm, everyone who's not behind a VPN will get a DMCA letter.

There's also been a case in which the FBI has actually made one of its own Tor servers in order to track down people who use onion sites to peddle CP. Doing this also helped the FBI take down Silk Road, thanks to all the "anonymous" connections being made to their server and being logged.

I agree

being this retarded

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>Still refusing to know what poisoned torrents are

ooooh.. torrents are the boogeyman

maybe p2p makes you shit your pants because you live in a surveillance obsessed shithole

tor is resistant to these kinds of attacks, it was designed for this.

>Being proud of living in Ukraine
How does it feel to have Crimea returned to its rightful owner?

Proof?

Yes, governments have taken over.
No, silkroad was taken down because Ross had 0
security skills, and tried to hire a hitman.

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So you honestly think that it's perfectly safe for you to use Tor, even if you make a connection to an exit-node run by a government agency?

And you think it's perfectly safe to download a poisoned torrent without a VPN? I pity you retards, especially when you have no proof against my facts and only resort to insults.

smells like cheese pizza

hard pass

>CIA sets up a Tor node
>Encrypted connections are routed through it from encrypted addresses to encrypted addresses
>???
>muh poisoned torrents (nobody was talking about torrents)
What are you droning on about dumbass?

security.stackexchange.com/questions/98017/why-is-tor-over-https-insecure

All p2p networks face this problem

So what's the problem in using Tor + https everwhere. You still haven't explained.

According to your link that would be foolproof.

I use a vpn and tor.

>He can't read sources
Now who's retarded?

>Using a VPN
>Along with Tor
Now you're thinking.

It seems like you can't read.

In the link you posted both replies are advising https + Tor, or even better onion links when available.

tor is not the same thing, you fucking computer illiterate. im not sure if this is just blatant misinformation or pure retardation? fucking hard to tell on this board at times.

>or even better onion links when available.
Exactly, since exit notes aren't guaranteed to be secure.

The use of exit nodes can be considered as p2p connections for use as a proxy, so technically, it is similar. Not the same, mind you, but similar. They're just illustrating how p2p technology doesn't really circumvent censorship or espionage, as long as one of those peers is a computer owned by the very party that you're trying to evade.

That doesn't mean they can "poison Tor" as if it were a simple P2P network. It's not the same thing at all. I think you typed something retarded and now you are trying to cover for it.

No but privacy is. If it's not the botnet browser spying on you, it'll be the ISP. If not them, then an alphabet agency. To add to all that, the basement hacker logging all your keystrokes backed by a screenshotter pozzed phone and pc. Either be tech primitive or just not give a fuck. My opinion, it's best to side with a major botnet conglomerate than anyone else. Realize that governments are powerless against large conglomerates, even the US doesn't have as much informational power as a large conglomerate like Alphabet.

Actually, yes it does because Tor itself is not a VPN. SO if you use Tor without a VPN, your IP will get logged by the exit node.

You seriously need to do more research on security.

>thinking tor is safe
Tor has long been compromised. I would avoid all forms of p2p these days if you don't want to have a pozzed machine.

>There's also been a case in which the FBI has actually made one of its own Tor servers in order to track down people who use onion sites to peddle CP
based fucking retard. they compromised everyone using javascript and browser exploits using 5up3r 70p s3kret "techniques". yes, they were javascript exploits.. and people got off from going to prison in some recent cp cases in the US because the FBI/police wouldn't reveal how the NIT/exploit worked. oh yes, the feds did a good job. top fucking kek. oh, and whats this of austrailan police running two child porn sites at one stage in cooperation with the FBI? oh my! such moral high grounds to preach from. oh yes, they were "protecting" the children. my sides. in orbit. your tax dollars hard at work.
> tor is compromised
> provides no evidence to support his low IQ / knuckle dragging claim
colour me surprised. hello, mr. officer. shouldn't you be running your cp honey traps on tor instead of shitposting on 4skins?

1. I don't use Tor, I work in network security.
2. If I used it, I would use a VPN, thst's a given and not the point of the thread.
3. A VPN would only protect you at the entry point so your ISP doesn't know you are using Tor. Even without a VPN the entry node doesn't know what you are doing, it only knows it's going through Tor. Doesn't mean shit.

The exit node on the other side only knows the site you are browsing and the info you input into it if it's not encrypted. It doesn't know your IP or location.
That's the whole point, to obfuscate the traffic. ISP knows your location but not your activities, exit node knows you activites but not your location. There is a large chain of encryptef traffic between both points.

As I said, nothing like P2P.

Sounds like you're typing from your jail cell on charges of CP.

Too bad you're too illiterate to see that link posted above and make the correlation that exit nodes are less secure without a VPN, or less secure than browsing actual onion sites.

> durrrr
> i have no proof
then shut the fuck up, you compulsive lying cunt. there are third world africans that have never used a computer that are smarter than you. what a dribbling spastic. just fucking kill yourself. what a dumb cunt.

I linked you Too bad you're unable to comprehend what you're reading.

Stay mad while you're still spied on.

>Being this angry
Maybe you should quit CP while you're still a Freeman. So you know, once you're behind bars, you'll be treated worse than murderers and rapists. At least dealers and murderers are seen as useful idiots

So tired of ad bombardments for dragon dildos. Like seriously personalized ads suck

>Now he ignores my reply and focuses on trolling the low hanging fruit
You are glowing

This.

>And all the world will be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed.

> oh no, tor still isn't compromised
lol. you're just pretending to be retarded? how adorable.
> being this much of a police officer
get back to your tor website, pervert. we know who you really are.

>He's still in denial that Tor is compromised as long as he doesn't use a VPN before connecting to an exit note
You really are stupid.

>he doesn't realize it's not only alphabet agencies that has compromised tor
Enjoy your pozzed machine

>Being mad when he's wrong

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Fuck off

Tor is perfectly safe as long as you don't use JavaScript like a fucking retard

You sound mad for having done and not having used a VPN, after connecting to an FBI exit node to look for CP.

How was your prison shower, bro? Feeling raw?

>Knows that autistic screeching isn't an argument
>Autistically screeches anyways

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You still don't understand how Tor works.