Meanwhile >5700XT's performance is already on par with RTX 2070 Imagine anything from 5800 and higher, while twice cheaper than the """""competition""""".
>while twice cheaper than the """""competition""""". sure, but 5700xt is already only 10% cheaper than COMPETITION
Sebastian Jackson
Why don't they use infinity fabric on GPUs, 5700XT x2 GPU would be OP
Zachary Garcia
Why are AMDrones so delusional?
Dominic Harris
>.ru I'm not going to click on that shit, nigger. Leak doesn't make sense if you consider that the 5700XT was originally named RX690, proving that it is a polaris replacement at double the price and the 5700XT being it's highest tier. We'll probably see a 5600(XT), 5500(XT) tho. Also the RVII would be made obsolete. Also, if the 5700XT is indeed just a mid-tier card instead of the highest NAVI, they wouldn't have made a mid tier anniversary edition. Leak is fake and gay.
Zachary Reyes
Price discrepancy between 2070 and 2080, and especially 2080 Ti, is huge. So Radeon equivalent of 2080 Ti will definitely be nearly x2 times cheaper, in that regard.
Isaac Phillips
If they can already use infinity fabric with Vega why not use it with RDNA which is way better than GCN
No rt/dxr no buy. Its bad enough they suck power and slower than their equivalent card from nvidia competition as well
Fuck sake gpus are shit lately and I say that as someone with a 2080ti Lmao 4k 240hz is off the table I didn't even get dp2.0 and this useless virtual link
Andrew Long
Because RDNA is made for gayming while GCN/Vega/RVIICustom Apple solution is much better for workstation loads.
Charles Allen
I was thinking the same thing. They have everything they need to make an insane dual GPU card. >IF has had it's kinks worked out >Fast as fuck VRAM would make fantastic speeds for IF >7nm node size for CPU and GPU means crazy good yields
I'd love it if they made one. Like a Radeon 5970 refresh
Nathan Kelly
>No rt/dxr no buy imagine being this retarded and falling for shitty nvidioid gimmickry
Michael Lee
They basically did this with the new Mac pros cheese grater Lmao the 2080 ti is below 900usd ow what shithole do I love in? Their not selling and gathering dust so their been sold off cheap
David Morgan
>2080 performance for $250 yes, i heard this before. then navi happened.
RDNA is GCN. Its not a new ISA, just a reordered CU.
Carson Hughes
It's a universal capability like dx12 dxr and vulkan rt Amd just can't be fucked running it in software on their gpus hence that vapourware crytekc demo on a v56
Nvidias rtx is literally using that standard + their own hardware accelerated ray tracing. I wouldn't consider it playable though 1440p 30fps low is unplayable
Eli Morales
>no gimmick, high power, same price >gimmick, low power same price such a hard choice. performance wise it's going to be RVII situation again.
Leo Martinez
>it's from muh "official government" therefore it's true LMAO being this retarded. The fuck has a government interest in what mid tier gpu's AMD is releasing, lmao at you brain.
Ryder Diaz
>RDNA is made for gayming while GCN/Vega/RVIICustom Apple solution is much better for workstation loads lol
I'm not blaming anyone buying nvidia cards because of performance/watt, i'm laughting at retards buying nvidia cards because of muh gimmick that literally only like 4 games actually use.
>being this fucking retarded >not understanding that various pieces of hardware are evaluated by regulatory commissions before they're allowed on the consumer market This is no different from a new phone showing up in FCC documents when its being tested for compliance with all radio regulations. Why are you even here?
6 and number is growing, DXR is what kill console parity Jow Forums luddites only ones who can't see it AMD while supporting it by hardware refused to support it in drivers for who knows what reason, probably so marketing comparison won't be made how badly it runs because they give you RTX price without any RTX.
Eli Butler
It's generally a good indicator on how cool/hot a card runs and generally reflects well on arch efficiency.
Jose Moore
>AMD GPU for gaming No
Ryzen is good (finally) but NEVER use an AMD GPU for gaming
Yes, user. Moving from 4x16 SIMD to 2x32SIMD does not change what the ISA is. Going from single scalar to multi scalar CU does not change what ISA it is either. Its GCN family. You can't argue with the optimization guideline explicitly detailing feature set and instructions.
Cooper Davis
Enjoy your shitty drivers.
Aiden Hernandez
in a year. do you even know how long it takes to develop a game? it's a huge number for such a short time.
Michael Perry
AMD is going to release 21 brand new cards from the 1 chip they showed?
Is this the brain power of Russian hackers?
Leo Nelson
5700 series is way better than what nshittia offers
Oliver Mitchell
What I find odd is how people complain about gcn being a thing but then don't mind Nvidia using Cuda since God knows when and not changing it.
Isaac Price
>thinking some shitty russian commission is in any way trustworthy and legit also this basically proves my earlier point
Cameron Johnson
Yes and Coffee Lake is actually Pentium III so what's your point?
looks legit, and since they are working on certification now it's probably not very far away, probably early 2020 pricing and tdp still going to be shit, so who cares
Mason Phillips
whatever that makes you not a buyers remorse
Luis Morris
>not understanding the difference between hardware architecture and ISA Why do you little retards even bother posting?
Isaiah James
Again, you DUMB reality-denying piece of stupid milking lolcow shitfag, this is OPENLY available on an OFFICIAL site of Eurasian economical committee. It's a part of the listing on the "cryptographic and encryption devices/gadgets", meaning that these are highly likely going to be used either for mining or for GPU-accelerated tasks (folding @ home or some enterprise shit, who knows). That is NOT the point, however. The point is that it's OFFICIAL and thus 100% real, abso-effing-lutely confirmed.
Colton Evans
how stupid are you? if anything customs and certification in russia is pinnacle of bureaucratic machine, they fight you for every cent and document every letter.
Isaac Murphy
Judging by the expiration date, it seems that the line's release dates are planned to be stretched out from 2019 to 2022 at the very least, so Navi GPUs for 3 years.
Thomas Robinson
>it's not reiteration because this one is different
Landon Parker
>what is 3950X
Lincoln Diaz
AMD. Is going. To release 21 new cards. When they only showed us a single 230mm chip. >"We like small chips" >Dr. Lisa Su, 2019 Computex presentation I have no doubt they have a half-sized Navi chip for the $180-250 market
What I think is this is nothing more than marketing FUD and you're a retarded nigger vodka-drunk dumb little retard.
Matthew Cruz
You don't even know what you're trying to argue at this point. Coffee Lake and a fucking Core2Duo are both X86 ISA. Hardware arch is an implementation of a given ISA. GCN is an ISA with multiple differing hardware implementations. Navi is part of the GCN family because it is still the same ISA.
Dominic Sanchez
that's just standard time frame, import rights will end in 2022 so it only means no new cards will be imported by that time if not prolonged not indicative of anything concrete
Again, its not the same chip, also different architecture. They will probably completely ditch any traces of GCN in the next NAVI's. NAVI 10 is basically GCN+
Gabriel Wilson
I told you several times now: the info is official and sitting in open on an official governmental site. It's 100% confirmed, at this point. You, on the other hand, currently completely shitting yourself in front of the entire web. Keep at it, kid.
Christian Bell
Power comes as a consequence of pushing clocks as high as possible, no different from Polaris based cards. A die with more CU and lower clocks could deliver more performance without power consumption totally exploding. They'll probably have a 295w card like always.
Austin Morgan
Ok bye thread full of shitposting paid shill retards!
Enjoy your smoothbrain garbled nonsense understanding of the world!
Ok bye you little idiot retard slow-boy! I'm always fucking right and I will be until I die!
Mason Rogers
>official governmental site Dude, the CIA has fucking docs about ayylmaos on their "official governmental site" it doesnt mean shit especially coming from russia
Easton Anderson
>2060 >5700XT 5700 is 2060's killer, not 5700XT. 5700XT is pit against 2070.
Matthew Gutierrez
Solid fallacy there, user.
Jace Perry
2060 shitper is just 2070 minus two SMs they're basically the same
>Ok bye thread full of shitposting paid shill retards! >Enjoy your smoothbrain garbled nonsense understanding of the world! I don't know why you are such a colossal faggot. I do not even disagree with you and i'm not the other faggot you responded first. However, you are a giant fucking fragile faggot. Thes leaks are probably fake and gay and we will NOT see a anything above a 5700XT on the NAVI 10 chip, just so my position is clear.
Hunter Butler
you can't import not certified hardware to russia, it has to be listed the fact that navi will get other cards was pretty obvious, quality of those cards is unknown, probably RVII 2 tier considering small navi TDP
Brandon Turner
Absolutely.
Jose Perez
Its not the Navi 10 die, guy. There are already entries in AMD's drivers pointing to different Navi dies. This entry isn't fake, and it isn't a leak. This happens to literally every GPU and CPU ever released. It happens to pretty much every electronic device before its sold on the market.
What a great thread.
Henry Long
Kys.
It's not a "Russian site", you dumb fuck. The "Russian language" on it is just a PART of it. The Eurasian Economical Committee consists of a fuckton of different countries, it's a pan-Eurasia organization. Keep shitting yourself, you reality-denying buttblasted noVideotic morons. I'm screening all of your retarded buttmad right now, and I'm going to shove it in your stupid dumb faces when thing's starts going out to other places. Get fucked.
The more you'll keep on shitting yourselves right now by REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEing in a "DURRRR, IT'Z RUSHA, SO IT'Z FAEK!" manner, the more delight it'll be bringing to us all when things start coming out and you'll be shat right in your stupid underage kiddie trollie boy faces. Get fucked, again.
>it isn't a leak >literally nobody else in the world knew about this until posted here, because no anglosuxx speaks or understands Russian language or visits official governmental sites that have Russian language >DEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRPPPP, NOT A LEAK I SAID, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Nolan Clark
Lisa said it's not GCN and I'd rather trust her than some retard on a chilean leaf-eating island.
Jose Butler
Nice non-argumentation, fagshit. Go and fuck yourself in the ass with barbwire soaked in brine, with no lube whatsoever.
Aaron Price
>but but but GCN bad
Jackson Rodriguez
It is GCN, you can't argue against AMD's own optimization guidelines. GCN is an ISA, and AMD did not create a brand new ISA.
Well yeah, but nVidia is gonna one up AMD with their super refresh which makes Navi doa.
Jace James
Yeah but with shittier drivers and prices so nshittia BTFO
Sebastian Diaz
>still doesn't understand the difference between hardware arch and ISA How old are you, kid? Talking in circles like this is laughably low brow. Vega is a new arch from Southern Islands. Both are GCN, because despite their hardware differences they have the same ISA. Navi, despite having hardware differences from all other GCN implementations, is still the same ISA.
Hunter Foster
The "leak" may be bullshing, but isn't it well known that Navi 20 is comming next year?
Wyatt Evans
Navi (uArch) is designed with GCN(ISA) but is radically different from past GCN (uArch)