TILING WINDOW MANAGER SUCK

>t. seething tilingfag

Silencing I guess?

>tried xmonad today for real. Currently, 1 hour into it.

wow user, the chink spent a whole hour before deciding an entire workflow is worthless.

kek no https
gtfo fucking faggots tiling wm is the only way in 2019. fucking timewasters

B A S E D

Literally nobody thinks that emacs is a good editor. That's why every editor offers a vim mode but none offer an emacs mode.

No one uses emacs keys who use emacs. Xah uses xah-fly-keys, for instance.

Have fun squishing all windows except one to delude yourself into believing you're making efficient use of screen real estate.

Great for quick fap sessions.
xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/Personal_dir/porn_movies.html

Why? if the editor is that awful that everyone rebinds the whole thing what's the fucking point

wtf

Why does default keys matter if they are easily customizable?

>It's another "Jow Forumstards spend their time larping and arguing about other peoples' preferences instead of doing anything, absolutely ANYTHING worthwhile"- episode

I've got no clue who this guy is but he seems like a true aficionado of porn as an artform and I respect that.

This guy is a legend
xahlee.org/sex/masturbation.html

I'm with him. Sometimes I only want to view a small portion of a window because most of it is useless. I think one day I will make a window manager that allows you to clip off chunks of a window so the OS/application still thinks they're there but they don't show up.

For example, say you have a web browser with a webpage open that has a fixed header. You might only want to view one tiny portion of the webpage, not even the scrollbars, but you don't want the page itself to know you've shrunken it. Or you might have a music player and you only want to view the play/pause button so you could shrink it down to that. Or you might have some sort of graphing program but you only want to see a portion of the output. Or maybe you only want to see a small portion of data in your terminal or your text editor.

Rather than hoping a program gives you permission to do these things, the window manager should enable you to do it for yourself.

>Around age 13 or so, i remember i read that heart beat can reach 200 while in orgasm (for young person). For most of my teens to early 20s, i recall that i constantly measured this. Yes, my heart beat has reached 200. I don't remember for sure, but i think 210 is not unusual.

I want to be his friend.

>I think one day I will make a window manager that allows you to clip off chunks of a window so the OS/application still thinks they're there but they don't show up.
so dwm ?

tiling window managers are shit but only because it's a sin to have more than one window in view

Does DWM let you just cut off part of a window?

dwm.suckless.org/patches/cropwindows/

This guy is the original troll, made the lisp mailing list seethe and also got banned from the #emacs IRC channel.

Why do people need more than one computer? I get if it's different monitors plugged into one PC, but two or three different computers?

Taiwan belongs to the Austronesians not Han squatters.

Nah, he's just some random self-absorbed faggot who was constantly annoying with cheap bait remarks and got rightfully banned. And now he is the one who is seething.

1- he isn't right, he's just dumb.
2- You aren't right, you are even dummer.
3- You relay on the opinion of some random autists chink because you are unable to think four yourself. Shame.
4-Maybe you have bad experiences with:
4.1- Badly configured twm
4.2- Badly configured Xorg
4.3- You use only GUI programs
4.4- You have nightmares with terminals or plain text files
4.5- You expect too many fancy stuff of a twm (complaining of "esoteric keys"? A emacs user!?, fibonacci layout? WTF he was thinking?)

Conclusion: Go back to Windows (not a wm!, the OS)

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Based vim mnemonic keys, I want they everywhere

tell us more

does he really use emacs, or?...

>i don't need that, i need extra pain and complication to show i'm a power user.

And America belongs to the natives and Australia belongs to the aboriginals?
>t. seething chink drone

Not him, but yes.

Well shit. I'll have to give dwm a shot. Window cropping should be the standard. Users should always have control.

How did he do that? I think he seems earnest in his beliefs, much more than modern trolls.

> A full-fledge WM like KDE, Gnome or even XFCE is less painfull
> Having trouble marking GUI programs match the same theme, icons and windows decorations
> Never finds a pleasant match between those UI elements, too many options, gets overwhelmed
> QT and GTK apps don't like each other, needs 2 different programs to be configured
Sure, editing a plain text file is harder than that budy.

>aesthetics over function
lmao

Thats for (You)

Imagine having so little to actually do with computers that "matching" colors is considered an issue.

>messes up emacs bindings
There's his problem. He's running 2 operating systems and they're fighting each other.

>Protecting this hard
much stuff, so much

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>> QT and GTK apps don't like each other, needs 2 different programs to be configured
No they don't.

>71633389
>be me
>LXQt/openbox
>use mostly qt programs, but also some gtk ones too
>get a gtk2+3 theme
>get gtk theme plugin for qt
>get icon theme
>spend a few minutes making openbox and lxqt themes
Literal computer retard. If you want so bad your computer to look good and consistent, then look it up and just do it.

Sounds based and redpilled

>Complete esoteric set of keys you need to memorize just for the tiling-window mechanism.
Who says the standard used in Windows and I guess some other popular DEs is not esoteric? Just because it's used in some commonly used DEs doesn't mean it's the most intuitive solution possible. i3 keys were very simple to learn since they borrow from vim keybindings.
>Encroach on each app's keys. This means, you'll spend time to config each app, or diddle with the global mode key setting.
I haven't used any software that relies on the super/windows key. Super easy to have in mind the fact that super+whatever is WM actions, everything else isn't.
>Completely screwing emacs's keys.
Emacs is already an OS + WM. If you're an emacslet just start raw Xorg and launch only emacs in the session since that's all you should need?
>Worst of all, the tiling windows idea itself is too idealistic. ... as soon as you have browser, image viewer, image editor, text/voice/video chat programs, math/scientific apps, …, each really needs its own optimal position/size.
Nah, it's you who's being too idealistic. If you don't use retarted and bloated "apps" that have too many visual bells and whistles, you'll be fine, the "natural optimal size and position and arrangement of app windows" is overidealized and doesn't matter.

Emacs bindings don't even conflict with most other wm bindings as long as you use super as the main modifier.

>muh bloat

Xah Lee is a cool guy, in a similar way to Terry Davis and Erik Naggum (if you haven't heard of him look him up)

I'm not really agreeing with his points or maybe I have a different workflow, but it's nice to check your own assumptions from time to time.

They are 3 completely different people.

>>Worst of all, the tiling windows idea itself is too idealistic.
>Nah, it's you who's being too idealistic
I kind of see where he's coming from, but for most of these cases you can use an appropriate layout.
Personally I can't think of a single program that I'd want floating. It's always either tiled or fullscreen/tabbed. Except for dialogue windows.
Of course having twenty windows open and arranging them in a fibonacci spiral isn't useful or efficient, and the more windows you have open the more you have to micromanage - there's no way around it. But I have never encountered a situation where a non-tiling wm would have improved the situation even slightly.

They are different but they have some things in common.

windowmaker is better than any tiling wm, prove me wrong

They matter because I don't want to waste my time shaping my editor into something actually usable, you colossal faggot.

Lmao who tf is this chink? He's pretty based desu.

What do you use which comes with amazing defaults that happen to be just the way you want?

He is right, but his way is no better. Use a stacking wm, but don't overlap windows. Use a lot of workspaces with fullscreen windows. If you need 2-4 windows simultaneously, arrange them in a tiled layout yeither with keybindings or an aero snap like function), then leave them in that layout.

And then a newly opened window fucks up your layout.

>You use only GUI programs
I agree, tiling makes sense with terminal windows, but doesn't work at all with graphical interfaces. So why not use a tiling feature in you terminal? Screen and termux exist, you know.

I've dubbed the "Windows/Super key" the "Window key" in my head, because I use it for WM keybindings.

I almost exclusively use graphical applications and a tiling wm works fine for me, better than a floating one.
Hell, even Emacs plays really well with it. You can spawn multiple external windows and have your wm arrange them, together with other applications.
It's funny that this chinknigger is complaining about wm bindings "interfering with Emacs" because they literally don't. I have yet to find an application which uses the super key.

where can i get a chinese girlfriend that likes tiling window managers

>Personally I can't think of a single program that I'd want floating
Most small dialog windows are extremely annoying when using a tiling WM. I don't want to click on blueman or nm-applet in the system tray and suddenly have it take up half the screen.
Same with just quickly opening a terminal for a single command or two.

If I want/need to use a tiling layout on a workspace, its most probably one that I'll be using for quite some time. More likely than not, it'll be a browser, vim, and maybe a teminal window (If I were to need more terminals, I open some tabs in this one).
If I open another window, it either will be closed right away (e.g. pavucontrol) or doesn't belong on that workspace at all, in which case I will open ot on a different one (e.g music player, email client etc.)

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Stop liking shit I don't like
Fuck off randy

Xah is literally an insane autist. Half the stuff he says is nonsensical crap. Better to read tea leaves than listen to his advice.

Most WMs support floating/dynamic mode. Popups all default to floating if your WM is sane so that's a non-issue.

>you want 2 mouses. One for each hand
oh boy

Is your programming diet science oriented Jow Forums?
xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/Personal_dir/xah_lee_diet.html

check out haiku-os nigga

u can tab them attach them resize them like legos

there are keyboard shortcuts to switch between windows in the current tab group and tab groups

youtube.com/watch?v=EO1Obko6mwQ

they fucked it up with proportional resizing though, what a bad feature

Vim, of course. What kind of idiotic question is that?

>almost never took out contact lenses

eughhhhhh

it feels bad enough wearing them late into the night (and having to unstick them from your eyeballs).

a girl went blind from leaving disposables in for months.

But user, my Windows PC looks good and consistent out of the box :^)

He sounds just like a little crybaby, unable to learn something new. Pretty pathetic

>the power of weapons-grade autism

Out of the box? I assume windows 10, so...
Liar.

Windows 10 aesthetics is kino, though.

>modal editing

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You know it is the superior way, baby. No funny pictures will ever change that.

But windows 10 alone has 6 different menu styles.. windows 9x dialogs, windows xp and 7 programs, some remnant windows 8 metro crap and the translucent plastic fest that is the new windows 10 style. That lack of consistency and the excessive basedtalk is what made me jumpship to embedded 8.1 for my gaymen PC. (most of the time i just slide out the hard disk from my thinkpad and connect to it, so it's kinda void... linux)

>But what this means is that, the natural optimal size and position and arrangement of app windows on your screen is sacrificed.
ye stopped reading there.

you are delusional

nowhere. chinese girls are only interested in status

>I am stupid

tiling window manager is absolute garbage. also DE shortcut keys are a joke

Agree, raw tty is superior.