Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >i3 8350k - Recommended minimum gaming >i5 9400F/9600k - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >i7 9700K - Extreme solution for absolute max FPS >i9 9900K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing >i9 7980XE - HEDT
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >GTX 1660 - standard >RTX 2060 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 1440p >RTX 2060 - standard >RTX 2080 - high framerates (requires complementary CPU and monitor) 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 - standard >RTX 2080Ti - better fit for 4K but expensive
General: >Always avoid AMD if gaming >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
I just got a Dell T3500 tower with a W3565 3.2GHZ for £40, what GPU can I pair with this that make sense? I just want to play esports games, I have consoles for AAA games.
It's your GPU, you better sell it to me for peanuts. Just kidding, did you install any new hardware prior to BSODs ?
Ryder Myers
WOW nvidias offers are so much better, they are overpriced faggots, but when you compare them to AMD they actually look good. How did AMD fuck this up so hard?
I'll probably get one because I only care to play borderlands 3
Ian Nguyen
From the last couple threads. Thinking of opting for 2x8GB instead, and changing the PSU to something that’s 80+ Gold because I’ve already had one bad experience with a cheaper PSU before.
Any reason I should not get these other parts? I’m just looking for a decent build that’s an upgrade from my 4690 and 970 that I used to have before my ex took it.
Aiden Harris
So are there better alternatives to hyper 212s now? I'm hearing about gammaxx 400, core frozr l and dark rock 2
Colton Collins
Need to replace the GPU on my ancient Sandy Bridge rig. Is it true that newer cards require UEFI to function?
Angel White
Nope, not sure what's causing it but apparently it's an error you get when you OC your processor. The thing is I've OCed this thing the first day I got it and experienced zero BSODs, why it's happening now all of a sudden is beyond me.
Christian Perez
>Always avoid AMD if gaming
Why? Their new processors coming out July looks k.
Carter Brooks
Clean off your PC, both hardware and software, it might help.
Kevin Clark
non gamer here but I wanna get back into it this year are triple a western games actually good now or are they the same old shooter/linear no gameplay dog shit games they always were?
Lincoln Rodriguez
if im just gaming is 16gb enough?or should i pick up 32gb?
Camden Ross
it's b8 m8
Isaac Sullivan
dont pick 32gb for gaming
Carter Parker
I suggest 2060 super with Control game bundle. but that's just me.
Leo Carter
If you need to ask, you don’t
Jason Scott
Cyberpunk looks cool
Adrian Evans
i'll have to check em out, last time I played a "proper" game was bloodborne, nowadays I just play gacha shit before that though I was really into JRPGS, SRPGS, dungeon crawlers etc along with WoW but now that I have some money i'm gonna get a nice gpu and some multiplayer games like monster hunter world, WoW classic and whatever else to keep the loneliness at bay I haven't fallen for that meme but i'll pirate it :^)
Cooper Roberts
Like physically clean off the parts and reinstall Windows?
Daniel Ward
>OCed this thing the first day I got What voltage on the CPU? How are your temps looking?
Luis Rodriguez
Tom's Hardware was owned by NCIX
Noah Watson
chkdsk and memtest for at least 24 hours
Robert Hernandez
>calls western games "linear no gameplay dog shit" >plays Gacha shit
IIRC it's maybe 1.3V because Gen 1 Ryzen overclocks like shit. Temps are normal. Most of the time it's 30C-35C idle but it occasionally treads into 40C idle but then it quickly goes back down. I'm not using the stock cooler, I'm using a Cryorig H7
Brandon Morales
imagine not playing destiny child in the year of our lord 2019 AD
Justin Roberts
Usage: 1080p 60fps gaming Budget: around $1050 pcpartpicker.com/list/yWhMRJ I want a stable 60fps at least for 5y
wait for zen 2 in less than two weeks dude also don't ever ever pay for windows like that you can either pirate or just buy an ebay key for less than $10
Charles Barnes
is meshify mini c the best matx case? cheap, good build quality, fits nh-d15 i'm going to be upgrading to Zen 2, are there any good cases that's going to be launching then?
Aiden Reyes
Overpriced for RTX 2060. Get one that's around $320. The most you ever want to pay for a 2060 is MSRP for $349. The 6GB of VRAM might not be futureproof for 5 years, but the performance will hold up. Just hope that next gen console ports don't push the VRAM floor above 6GB.
Nicholas Powell
Going full AMD (cpu + gpu) What am i in for?
Jaxson Jones
slight disappointment but money saved
Elijah Powell
Could I stretch out my i7 4790k for another 5-6 years? I only do 1080p high settings gaming, have 0 interest in going for 1440p or anything. I have a 1070 now for a gpu, so I know that can last me 5 years at least. Just curious if I should dump the money on a new cpu + mobo or should I be good for a while?
Camden Allen
I just realise that 2600x has the same core count and core speed as 3600 but it is $20 cheaper. what the hell.
Carter Perry
do i want to getr 590 or something else? AMD gpu naming are confusing
Wyatt King
570 at ~$120 or Vega 56 at ~$275 are the only worthwhile amd card purchases.
Gabriel Powell
3 years max but probably 2 years if next gen consoles actually have powerful desktop tier ryzen cpu's and not shitty mobile variants.
Carter Campbell
Cheapest twin fan 2060 is like €400 here but I was offered an MSI Gaming X 1070ti for €220. Y/N
Nathaniel Walker
>What is IPC
Dominic Foster
>What is IPC
Something that gives Intel processors HIV
Wyatt Sullivan
check review on the 1070ti
Jack Brown
sucks cause i want to get ddr4 ram but my mobo now doesn't support it and if i want a new mobo for new ram i have to get a new cpu due to it being a LGA1151 socket so i can't reuse my 4790k. fuck, is ddr4 even worth the upgrade? just came into some money so now is my only time really to upgrade my rig and make it last another 5 years.
Caleb Torres
I used to have a regular 1070 with the same cooler and was really happy with it and was just wondering what to expect from the "ti" spec bump. Still a bit behind the 1080 I'd guess?
Owen Turner
If my cpu temp rises by about a degree a second until the PC shuts off after a minute or two it's probably my cooler pump that died right? All my other fans and what not are running fine.
Cooper Evans
R5 3600 for ~$200 RX 5700 for ~$379 GPU options are no better than Nvidia's at the mid-high end. If you're not willing to drop yuan/HK$ for Lisa's bustier stuff, then the RX 570 4GB for $110-120 is what you'll want.
Adam Perez
a lot of games are memory bandwidth sensitive now so yeah ddr4 is worth it (at least ddr4-3000 if you're buying ryzen). if you're upgrading now for the future you should be safe on the cpu side with ryzen 2 coming out in literally like a week and a bit. on the GPU side well we don't know what the consoles will be like and console GPU is always the baseline. if console suddenly go all in with RT tech for cinematic games then chances are devs will milk the fuck out of RT next gen and you'd want sufficient hardware for that.
Christopher Hughes
you think i should upgrade to a Ryzen 5 3600 from my 4790k when it comes out? the price is very appealing and in my budget if ill just grab a new mobo and ddr4 ram to go with it.
Landon Evans
i would recommend the 8 core ryzen just to be safe because the next gen console will also be using 8 core zen 2 (ryzen 3000) processors and if they're actually just lower clocked desktop variants then you'd be at a disadvantage with those 6 cores after a few years and you want it to last 5 years.
Juan Ward
Had anyone here used IC graphite thermal pads? Seems much better as there is no sticky gooey paste and you can supposedly re-use it.
Juan Hill
benchmarks show that it's good but good paste is still better
Connor Robinson
Reviews I've seen differ like 1-2c so it's within margin error IMO, the benefit of having a re-useable and easily applied thermal pad should make up for the minor temp difference (if any).
Nolan Howard
Hi /pcbg/, semi-poorfag here. I want to upgrade my CPU(currently my desktop has i3-2120, rx580, 8gb ram, ssd) as a stop gap until I can save up enough to buy a newer desktop in another couple of years.
My goal in upgrading is VM performance (I do half my stuff on VMware) and gaming. I want 1080p mid-to-high and *maybe* some VR. I have two options:
Which one should I get? My motherboard is an H77MA-G43... its socket compatible with the i7 but I don't know if there's anything else I should be aware of. I have a stock cooler (is that good enough for an i7?) and high quality 650W psu.
Why do all of Logitech's wireless mice develop double click problems? What the fuck man
Mason King
Wired ones do too
Kevin Diaz
>>Always avoid AMD if gaming Why is this? I thought you guys are saying intel BTFO and amd win?
Adrian Sanders
It's basically a 1080 with minor cutbacks, overclocking the memory and the card itself will bring it up to speed with a 1080
Carson Cruz
its dumb. decent thermal paste will be cheaper and better.
Michael Watson
They all do But in my experience just taking it apart and blowing on the switch with compressed air fixes it 100% of the time
Isaac Scott
In the ball park of $350 (ideally less) what's the best USED card I can get? I'm thinking about going 4K and also buying a VR headset. I have a lot of fun with the Vive at arcades and my friend is selling his pretty cheap. Feel free to be mobo/psu/processor agnostic, I'm probably building an entirely new system.
Literally don't bother with paying for Windows. You could spend $5 for a grey market Win10 Pro key and use Microsoft's official media creation tool for making a bootable Win 10 installer.
I bought a $5 Win10 pro key about 2 years ago and have used it for about 6 installations, shit's cash.
Go on eBay, tons of sellers that offer instant delivery or just steal from your university.
Zachary Bennett
This is my current setup, as well as a PNY GTX970 that's currently not connected. Do you guys have any suggestions for a good, long durability PSU? I'm looking to change that and the case. My build is currently on an Enthoo Evolv ITX, so any tips as to what to look out for when getting a new case would help.
Thanks. What's dumb? Not wanting to bother with applying and removing paste to literally save a few dollars? As I mentioned the reviews I've seen show little to no difference, at most like 1-2c.
Colton Hernandez
> Not wanting to bother with applying and removing paste to literally save a few dollars? First, it's not that much of a hassle, second it's cheaper, thrid it gives better performance. To prefer the alternative in this case, you need to be a giga retard who can't handle applying paste AND you need to be the kind of autist that thinks you need to re-apply it every month.
Henry Roberts
>Do you guys have any suggestions for a good, long durability PSU? Anything with a 10 year or more warranty
Blake Bailey
Try getting something rated for more than you actually need. The PSU will run cooler if you do this and for that reason would probably last longer. Some people do this just for the benefit of not having another fan always running in their system too.
But hey I've been using a 400 watt chinese mystery brand PSU in an old FX 6300 + GTX 650 Ti system for 5+ years without even cleaning the PSU. So honestly you're fine either way. Just blow it out and occasionally open it up for cleaning.
Nicholas Hill
But it comes back?
Anthony Scott
>even A320 works with Zen2.
Holy fuck, this is awesome. now non-X SKU's would probably drop in nicely with X370's.
Asher Wilson
ayo senpai anyone who has that leaked price sheet of the x570 motherboard lineup?
Jaxon Garcia
look at the bottom left of the pcb, looks like something out of the early 2000s, chinese capacitors are back in business
This. Getting an overdimensioned semi passive PSU is the best investment I've made in ages. It might cost a few bucks more but you get what you pay for and spread over a 7-10yr warranty period I doubt it would be much cheaper getting two shitty PSU's instead.
Just curious though, do PSU's generally react to thermals as well as load? I read about someone frying their Seasonic by manually activating the fanless mode and since the power consumption never went above the limit the fans never started and shit got overheated. Sound like user error though and they shouldn't be doing that without manual tinkering.
Gavin Barnes
I'm trying to overclock my 2200G's onboard Vega. On bios, dynamic SOC voltage is +0.144v and GFX voltage is +0.00625, which is the smallest value that it lets me. I did that so it doesnt raise the voltage when the iGPU is being stressed, thus maintaining the RAM's soc input. With these settings, I get these readings on HWiNFO. There's two different readings of SOC voltage, how do I deal with that? Btw it's not stable yet, it just doesnt BSOD when gaming, instead only the game stops responding and closes.
Fuck I should have bought an A320 and saved some pennies. I got baited.
I have no experience but I can say that PSUs are probably more durable than you think. Consider how many small office PCs there are pushing their PSUs to the limit that are running day in and out for years while filling up with dust.
it doesn't. look at the tomshardware review. 2060 is on par with a vega 64 or faster and the 56 was much slower. also vega in general is outdate and obsolete.
Parker Adams
Does Ryzen work well with Yuzu, or is Intel better for emulation?
I know it does with CEMU, Dolphin and PCSX2, but it runs badly with RPCS3?
Levi Barnes
Do you VRM pros think the 12 core ryzen 3000 CPU will work fine in my x370 ROG VI Hero board?
Matthew Walker
I just bought a 5 year old HP g8 server off of amazon. Am I a giant retard?
Kevin Flores
Yes, HP is trash.
Isaiah Gonzalez
The ryzen 3600 will work in the b450 board.
Asher Morris
No bios update required?
I have no old chip to update it obviously, since I have the 8100.
Sebastian Harris
everything now runs badly on RPCS3. new windows update ruins TSX and new builds of the emulator tries to abandon it altogether.
Hunter Robinson
of course it will need a bios update.
Josiah Kelly
Thanks anons
Nicholas Miller
That sucks, does AMD still do that thing where they'll send you an old chip to update with?