Network transparency with Wayland

>gitlab.freedesktop.org/mstoeckl/waypipe/
>mstoeckl.com/notes/gsoc/blog.html

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Is that even a good idea in practice, though?

That's similar to technology used by Windows, MacOS, VMware, etc. It's a matter of optimization after you get the basics right.

That's neato!

impressive alacritty konsole works pretty well
i never used ssh -X how do i compare the performance or did it worked like this as well with no tearing??

Welp, that's it. Does Sway work on NVIDIA cards? If so i'm switching right the fuck now

no and it likely never will

i wish kde and gnome had the same attitude towards nvidia, the fuckers want to make it difficult, they are the only one not adopting it. amd and intel are bretty good now with a recent kernel
please share a video of how it works for us brainlets, its still alpha iiuc so i dont want to waste time installing it

That's just remote frame buffer tho

whatever the implementation is the challenge is not about basic functionality but making it work nicely across so many scenarios
thats why things like vnc programs have so much difference in quality and trade offs

video?

wayland is still DoA and a decade too late.

sure buddy

so is wayland +sway actually any good or is it a big dumb meme?

it's good if you're not a big dumb meme and understand that new programs can have limitations and that you might need to dig a little to find all the env's and configs you need
stay on x if you're a grumpy muh unix philosophy (cough x 1m+ lines of code monoliths) muh network transparency or muh games

all i do on muh gahnuu plus linnuks lapttop is browse the web and watch vidyer + animez on mpv.

What is the advantages to running wayland + sway over i3 + xorg? I know xorg is apparently a pile of hurt with millions+ loc that no one wants to touch or even update cause of how badly maintained it is, but is wayland really a replacement for my use case? is it faster? cpu efficient? etc etc?

i think any killer features are still to come, hopefully as a product of the improved design of the whole system. a good example of such a setup is ddevault's wio (rio in wayland) toy project. a good example of something that really wouldn't work in xorg, but is pretty manageable in wayland with little work

So for browsing the web and using the web, I should face no bugs or anything ridiculously broken for absolutely basic features? im not concerned about it working with new released random apps

try it yourself and let us know, just add sway as an additional session and play with it
if you really want to learn about wayland and its trade-offs and advantages over x start reading a lot and have an open mind
just know that there is so much fud youll want to hang yourself after
its not a silver bullet but its the future and since there are so many big players involved every limitation will have a solution one day, its early days for real world usage
im using wayland since 2017 because i understand its limitations and so far i never had to change to an x session, i like the challenge too and i report bugs

firefox, termite, mpv, are all supposed to be working. so if that's your setup you should be fine
you should really check on a per-app basis: a lot of the problems with the wayland experience arise on an app-by-app basis. some apps are written to work with wayland, and some will get pushed through xwayland (which you don't want). i would recommend you check every app you use for wayland support and go from there
emacs support when :(

>try it yourself and let us know
if youve been using it since 2017 just tell me so I dont have to waste my time? wtf this isnt a trick question I just want to know if its broken or not.

>if you really want to learn about wayland and its trade-offs and advantages over x start reading a lot and have an open mind
not everyone has this amount of free spare time but I get you

>its not a silver bullet but its the future
is it really though, the thing im worried about is what if Xorg finally decide to fix their bullshit and do a huge clean up, now you get xorg being extremely extendible with more features than wayland -> wayland dies?

>just tell me so I dont have to waste my time
with that attitude/fear of experimentation and so many easily googlable questions: dont use wayland, youll just become yet another Jow Forums troll
>about is what if Xorg finally decide to fix their bullshit and do a huge clean up
many x maintainers left to start wayland because they gave up on the codebase, it cant be salvaged its too much legacy and the wrong design (for today, and thats just an opinion), nobody wants to maintain it anymore
but it is fine to use it today and it will be for the next decade
so stop overthinking and go watch some porn

well desu i dont want to experiment cause im not willing to spend time breaking my working system which i like.

however i'll tell you this, i'll install it on a vm so at least tell me if it works on a vm? if it does and i like it i'll adopt wayland + sway.

>im not willing to spend time breaking my working system
wayland is not 4u, no offense but if youre still worried about 'breaking' your linux system its because you need a little more experience with it

KDE has the same attitude, they won't implement nvidia specific features themselves. That's why nvidia is developing the egl support for kwin.
Or by "same attitude" do you mean being fucking children and adding switches like "--my-next-gpu-wont-be-nvidia" and telling people who might need to use cuda to just fuck off?

>Or by "same attitude" do you mean being fucking children and adding switches like "--my-next-gpu-wont-be-nvidia" and telling people who might need to use cuda to just fuck off?
no, calm down

We already have X, it works great, I’m not switching to Wayland. Fuck you.

>here install this perpetually beta GUI layer it’s totally cool but it might break your system but what are you some kinda faggot?
Not very convincing Pajeet.

>network transparency
So... that thing that X had in the 90s?