5G Broadband general

it will absolutely kill you and your children. As did 4G, and 3G before that, and 2G before that, and...

So are phones already having 5g capabilities or do I need to wait for the next Gen badge for replacing my old one

t. telecoms shill on a proxy
explain the NTP study oh wait you cant

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Hey user, I haven't seen you in a few days. How is work going?

Have you given any thought to my question from the other day user?

5G and all microwave radiation is absolutely toxic to all biology on this planet. Read a book called "Going Somewhere" by Andrew A. Marino.

All the science shows that there are harmful effects caused by microwave radiation, but the telecoms industry selectively edits out results or intentionally sets up studies so the disease caused by microwave radiation wont be seen, for example, in one industry funded study they put large rats in tiny cages, making the stress response from radiation invisible.

the recent NTP study is a huge blow to telecoms trannies which is why they try to distract, deflect and obfuscate at every turn, even dumping scat porn when the threads dont go their way.

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why are you powerless to stop the avalanche I am causing?

Do you frequently feel that your actions have major effects on the world user?

>However, the NTP’s work, which has been widely publicised, has created a media storm, largely as a result of ambiguous communication. The NTP suggests, on its website and in its communications, that this work was aimed at studying the risk of mobile telephony at the request of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which is the authoritative public health authority in the USA and arbiter of the appropriateness of public exposure thresholds. It clarified that the exposures were not comparable with the use of a mobile phone [9], then explained that it had not studied Wifi and 5G, which would be the subject of future work.

>For its part, the FDA indicated [10] as early as November 1st that it agreed that these results cannot be extrapolated to mobile phone use, but that it “disagreed with the conclusions of their final report regarding the “clear evidence” of carcinogenic activity in rodents,” pointing to weaknesses in the study. It also states that “we must remember the study was not designed to test the safety of cell phone use in humans, so we cannot draw conclusions about the risks of cell phone use from it. We also must thoroughly evaluate and take into consideration the totality of the data, and do so within the context of the complete body of evidence rather than drawing conclusions from the results of a single study.”

>if it is indeed dangerous what do you suggest I do to protect myself and help stop the ongoing rollout?
Microwave radiation is dangerous and 5G did not change that and it's also not all that different from existing microwave radiation sources. And guess what, if you have a cellphone or a laptop and you use WIFI you're exposing yourself and your family to microwave radiation.

The good news is that you can reduce the amount of microwave radiation in your home by simply not having a cellphone and not having a Wifi router. The bad news is that 5G will be placed on things like street lamps and next to people's homes. And that's bad. However, it is totally laughable that most of those protesting 5G have a callphone and a wifi router.

>fluoride
Fluoride's a known deadly toxin and it's dangers have been known for centuries, not just decades. I know it's hard for American's to understand that a toxin is bad for you since that toxin is in US water-supplies. However, you may want to really think about this simple question: Why is the US dumbing people down by poisoning the population with fluoride when the rest of the world is not? Why does EU require makers of toothpaste with fluoride to label it "Dangerous, do not swallow. Keep away from children"?

answer the question

>the exposures were not comparable with the use of a mobile phone
This statement misrepresents risk to the brain from the whole-body exposures used in the NTP study. While the exposure limit to RF radiation in the US is 0.08 W/kg averaged over the whole body, the localized exposure limit is 1.6 W/kg averaged over any one gram of tissue. Body tissues located nearest to the cell phone antenna receive much higher exposures than tissues located distant from the antenna. Thus, when an individual uses a cell phone and holds it next to his or her head, exposure to the brain will be much higher than exposures averaged over the whole body. When considering organ-specific risk (e.g., risk to the brain) from cell phone RF, the important measure of exposure is the SAR value of 1.6 W/kg averaged over any gram of tissue. In the NTP study in which animals were exposed to whole-body RF at SARs of 1.5, 3, and 6.0 W/kg, exposures in the brain were within 10% of the whole-body exposure levels. Therefore, in the NTP study, exposure intensities in the brain of rats were similar to or only slightly higher than localized human exposures from cell phones held next to the head.

>omitting that it only used OLD 2G/3G signal modulation
The amount of modulation of a signal is just as much of a factor in biological effect, if not more. 5G signals will be absolutely hyper-modulated, as well as heavily densified.

>we must look at industry funded studies and nothing else says the industry
lmao

Any random blog that agrees and amplifies the NTP study is true any honest information. Any criticism of the NTP study is evil telecom shills working on depopulating the planet via spooky waves.
There I saved you guys 20 posts of arguing with user.

based and war-gaming the 4Chans pilled

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>industry funded studies
It's kind of telling that if you look at the overall results for microwave radiation studies you get a figure like 60% not dangerous and 40% dangerous. Then you look closer and it's 100% safe in industry-funded studies and 100% dangerous is independently-funded and the ratio between industry-funded and independently-funded's 60/40.

The most interesting thing to do - if any of you want to actually learn something - is to look at the microwave radiation studies done in the 1970s and the early 1980s. The concern then wasn't "it is dangerous", it was "how can we apply it's harmful effects in weapons". And there was no cell phone industry to provide counter-studies claiming microwave radiation was super safe back then.

>muh NTP study
never read it, don't care. The nature of microwave radiation hasn't changed the last 20 years.

the military didnt have a vested interest in immersing all biological life in microwaves back then though.

Jow Forums is scared of all new technology unless is starts with "i".

Something, something, angry user rant.

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this confirms 5G is safe and we should irradiate infants with 200 antennas per square meter

>5G industrycel trannies already coping to the max

Some countries already have 5G. Just let them running for a while and see if their population is dying of cancer. Why use studies on samples when you have the real deal on entire populations.

Israel, one of the highest IQ countries in the world, flouridates its water.

If da joos are using flouride as a way to brainwash the goyim, why do they drink it themselves?

>Israel, one of the highest IQ countries in the world
lol

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>9. north korea 102

you'd think a significant portion of your peoples starving would lower that average

Get your education from web comics, that is really smart

I've always found that number to be interesting since it indicates that starvation =-4 IQ on average (people in South Korea and North Korea have almost identical genes yet there's a 4 point difference).

Fluoride get’s stuck in parts of your brain. It mineralizes. I know you are a worthless neet with no knowledge of biology whatsoever so let me explain.
Fluorine is an element that has literally no use in living organisms. It’s true that a lot of retards on the opposite spectrum as yours have made fluoride into a conspiracy but there is still no reason for the goverment to forcefully make everyone drink it. Unless you are a slob with no oral hygiene.

THREADLY REMINDER FROM YOUR INDUSTRY TELECOM SHILL FRIENDS AT /sci/
pastebin.com/VuLYa82S

Correlation does not equal causation.
You are implying IQ is only defined by genes and wether you starve or not.
Boy this thread is full of retards.

I preform waveform analysis for a living and while I cant speak for millimeter wave as its somewhat new to my industry I can say is that electromagnetic waves contain a lot more energy than many people realize and I wouldn't be surprised if they affect our health in some negative way especially as prevalent as these waves are in our lives not just from cell towers but other sources as well such as bluetooth, radars and satellites.

Enjoy your brain cancer shill.

imagine someone wrote this pastebin

>I can say is that electromagnetic waves contain a lot more energy than many people realize
Which is easily calculated from a simple formula which has been used for more than a century

>OMG GUISE (((THEY))) ARE FRYING BABYS IN THEIR MOTHERS TUMMYS AND CALSIFYING YOUR PINEAL GLAND WITH 5G MAKING YOU A MINDLESS ROBOT!! I AM SUPER SERIAL!!!!

KEK ;^)

it's extremely dangerous, the jews who are gang-stalking me and hiding the truth about the real shape of the earth are behind it. Stay woke and always wear your anti-HAARP headgear

Why are you shilling so hard?
If you have a bias then either provide evidence to your argument or go away.

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it's extremely safe, the anonymouses who are gang-stalking the telecoms industry and hiding the truth about the benefits of microwaving my endocrine system and ingesting estrogen are behind it. Stay woke and always wear your Mossad dilation station access card.

Schizo trips

>Why are you shilling so hard?

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>telecoms trannies
You people live in some parallel bizarro world I swear. No boomer telecom company is interested on anything Jow Forums has to say.

Jow Forums is literally the center of the world
why are you liberals so out of touch?

that's exactly what a chemtrail-loving big pharma jewish telecom tranny would say

vote hilldawg my fellow 4Channarians

you got us

dump scat now, dilation in 30 mins

Richard Lynn is full of shit and all those IQ charts like this map always posted on Jow Forums are bullshit.

He uses Raven Progressive Matrices results, some very old. For most countries with no data he simply invents the numbers based on "their neighbour's average", for others he bases the number on a single school result, he cherrypicks the data and dismisses those results that didn't fit with his "IQ creates wealth" retarded racist theory.

ourworldindata.org/intelligence
>The methodology of their research has been heavily criticized for not having consistent measures of IQ across countries and for the way estimates were generated. For example, the average IQ of countries without data is reported as the average of neighboring or comparable countries. In addition to this, the way in which samples were either included or excluded in their analysis is unsystematic, potentially biasing their results.

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Hello.

This thread is now saved.

No need to thank me.

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Excellent argument. And that graph of yours, undisputable evidence.

Here’s what I’ve calculated.
UV light’s frequency is very close to overlapping with 5G’s highest frequency.

UV light has been proven to cause cancer, but we still haven’t been able to conclude anything on 5G.
All you shills (from both sides) only have baseless arguments.

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shills warrant no counter arguments

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>le both sides are equally bad
top reddit

Arguments warrant counter arguments. Unless you are a shill of course.
I gave arguments, you did not.
Also nice avatarfagging

top Jow Forums

I only said no side has strong evidence. And you are proving my point by crying muh reddit.

congratulation, you can study in the MIT without problems....

Catchphrases and one liners are not arguments.

Boy half the people in this thread have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Radio/microwaves are non-ionizing, they can only excite molecules and generate heat, they can't in any way cause DNA damage. they don't possess enough energy to strip electrons from atoms. If it can't damage DNA then it can't be classified as carcinogenic. All research on this topic is funded completely by people on either side of the fence so you'll never find an unbiased study.

UV is also non-ionizing. Fuck off with your red herrings.

>All research on this topic is funded completely by people on either side of the fence so you'll never find an unbiased study.
Correct, and there's no point in arguing about the topic either because it's a point of faith for both parties.

>Radio/microwaves are non-ionizing, they can only excite molecules and generate heat, they can't in any way cause DNA damage.

this myth has been thoroughly debunked by the NTP study and also tens of thousands of other studies that telecoms trannies dont want you to know about

bioinitiative.org

What you say is true. But as with everything there are nuances. 5G is just on the verge of UV light, which is ionizing.
Also heat can damage DNA.

UV has been proven to cause cancer. How can it possibly not be ionizing?

>What you say is true
no, it is objectively and scientifically incorrect.

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UV is ionizing you fucking retard.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-ionizing_radiation

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>This myth has been debunked by one study
>all other decades of thoroughly backed research? Nah, forget about it. The NTP study is law.

Okay.

>telecoms tranny humiliates itself for me with its own posts

read a few more words dipshit

>Ad hominem

Huh, really makes me think.

have insurance

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Probably because they don't exist.

if they dont exist why not insure just in case

upper ultraviolet is ionizing, but lower ultraviolet (i.e. the bands we actually ever encounter) is not

still causes harmful (and beneficial) photochemical reactions though

That doesn't prove your point though, seeing as the most common forms of UV we encounter, whether it be from tanning beds or from the sun on a hot summer day, is upper ultraviolet which IS ionizing.

Ultraviolet C or (UVC) range, which spans a range of 100 to 280 nm. The term ultraviolet refers to the fact that the radiation is at higher frequency than violet light (and, hence, also invisible to the human eye). Ultra means beyond. Due to absorption by the atmosphere very little reaches Earth's surface

ostensibly you don't know what you're talking about

everyday UV is not ionizing; every interesting effect from the UV we encounter every day is due to photochemistry

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>5G is just on the verge of UV light
No it isn't you utter utter retard.
Go play with your iToys instead of trying to discuss technology.

Before I start, I'd like to point out that the CDC, FDA, FCC, and National Cancer Institute all agree that there is not enough scientific evidence to support the claim that 5G poses a threat to human health. These posts are going to be length but I'll do my best to put everything in layman's terms and hopefully some of you will leave here with a better understanding of how radiation works and be able to formulate your own opinions on the matter from an informed perspective. As for my credentials, I'm a student in the free radical and radiation biology graduate program at the University of Iowa. Let's look a little bit at what radiation is and the difference between ionizing and non-ionizing radiation. Radiation is just a form of energy, but it comes in different strengths. You've got low energy radiowaves on one end of the spectrum and super high energy gamma waves on the other. Even visible light is radiation. Understanding the effects of radiation at different energy levels is key when thinking about risk. The wavelengths of radiation can differ, it's these differing wavelengths that determine how high energy the radiation is. The shorter the waveform the higher the energy. Another way to describe radiation is by using hertz, a unit of frequency which tells you how many oscillations in the waveform happen per second. For example, 3G and 4G radiation is around 1 to 2 billion hertz or 1 to 2 gigahertz. 5g moves up in the spectrum, using frequencies from 1 GHz all the way up to 70 GHz. If you were exposed to enough of any of these frequencies it would affect your body by heating it.

>These posts are going to be length

Please don't.

Nobody wants to read your crap here.
Try Reddit instead.

That's how a microwave oven works, and why there are limits on how powerful cell phone radiation can be. At the levels that are used for example, on wireless communications that are used for transmitting AM and FM radio or 5G technology, the amount of RF energy that's being transmitted is very, very low and would need to be thousands of times greater to even be felt by the body as a heat source, much less cause any particular harm to the body. But there's a certain point at which radiation has enough energy to do more than that. And actually makes changes to the atoms in your body. If it reaches that point it becomes ionizing, which means it has enough energy to knock electrons out of atoms and do things like give you cancer and damage your DNA. This process is also the reason why radiation therapy can be used to treat cancer, by beaming Ionizing radiation at cancer cells and damaging the DNA of the cells in question. If I, for example took in enough example to raise the temperature of a cup of coffee by 1 degree, and I took it in the form of ionizing radiation; I would be dead within around a half hour of acute radiation sickness. But if I took that same amount in the form of non-ionizing radiation my body would easily dispel or normalize that heat because it wouldn't produce any permanent damage. It would just be in the form of thermal energy which my body can adapt to. There's a point where radiation switches from non-ionizing to ionizing. And the question being raised in this debate in particular is "how close are we getting to that with 5g?" The answer it turns out is not very close at all. Which 70 GHz is certainly higher than 2, radiation isn't ionizing until about 2.4 million GHz.

>Just dont look at the NTP study and everything is fine

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If it's true user, there answer me this: where are all the brain cancers? Where are all the Gliomas? Every day I look at study after study of cancer rates and the incidence of brain cancers since the induction of wireless technology cell phones and there are no significant changes in the rate incidence.

forbes.com/sites/geoffreykabat/2017/12/23/are-brain-cancer-rates-increasing-and-do-changes-relate-to-cell-phone-use/#6684acc825b4

cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/radiation/cell-phones-fact-sheet

Why is this schizo so fixated on a single study? You can find a single study to support almost any conclusion, that's why people tend to look for a body of evidence to support claims. Picking and choosing doesn't prove anything.

bioinitiative.org

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Oops forgot one

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11150357

Can you link me to the actual study instead of just posting a graph with no link for further reading?

You're European, you're lucky. You guys have an easier time protesting. I would gather up people and protest against 5G, if I were you.

bioinitiative.org is the greatest resource on this topic

microwavenews.com/news-center/fact-or-artifact

>more than 10,000 peer review shadda shadda
>none targeting specifically 5G
>also causing diabetes
LMAO are Jow Forumsuys afraid of the bogeyman? Look mang, everyone on the West is gonna tell you 5G is going to rape you, along with your family, your friends, your dog and your soul.
There's nothing to be afraid of about 5G since having a cellular tower near you, a phone in your pants, wifi and microwave at home isn't already fucking over, They're just exceedingly mad they didn't invent it and now this breaks into them loosing two things

1) West's tech superiority (all 5G equipment is supplied by china, say hello to our new Han overlords)
2) The ability to spy on everyone

The whole 5G stuff isn't about the tech.

>2001

>microwave yourselves even more goy, we'll wait 5 years

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>we're already microwaving kike
>we just pick a better oven

>Big Science has an agenda it's trying to push
>Unlike peer reviewed journals, this site that doesn't even name the people running it has no bias, agendas or ulterior motives
They don't even cite sources in their 'accolades' section for fuck's sake. They're making up their own complements.

>official government data is not a source
try reading gormless redditor insect