/pcbg/ - PC Building General

I need a Keyshot + Rhinoceros 3D machine around $2000

Shall I pick a Xeon Machine or wait for new Ryzen?

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>got a new vega 56
>the coil whine somehow transfers not only outside the case, but also through the wires in my headphones
>so while in game if it's a quiet scene you can hear the coil whine through headphones
Any idea how I can isolate the headphones so they don't carry thew coil whine?

>seething drones report the legit thread that has the nvidia super news and make a shit one thats not even updated
cringe

Copypasta from sqt: If I get an NVMe drive, will it effect the performance of my GPU as it's PCIe and might take up valuable bandwidth...? Also, are there any mobo limitations to NVMe or will any shitty board with an M2 slot support 3500MB/s?

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Return it and buy super

i5 6500 with 1060 6gb still relevant for casual gaming on a 1080p 60hz rate?

Might as well wait for Ryzen, it's just a few days anyways.

yeah

He's right though.

surely there must be a another way

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No he's just projecting

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You really think that's the same guy? Do you really believe there's only one anti-intel person on Jow Forums?

Try asking support of who you got it from. I've never heard of anything like that.

If you don't mind stutters, yeah.

We don't know yet. Probably not since 3600 looks like it gains a lot of performance from enabling PBO.

He actually made that post himself about being banned, while evading a ban, just so he could screenshot it and claim it's someone else.
It's a false flag.

reposting 2060 prices at geishalz
zotac amp 2060 non super starting price was 400eur for comparison.

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Making a MicroATX build, should I go for the Meshify C Mini or Define C Mini?

I want good airflow but I also want it to be fairly quiet

kek gamersnexus actually added an undervolted and oc'd vega 56 to their benchmarks in the super review video, fuckers must have been desperate to claw back some enthusiast clout

that said, the benchmarks showed that the vega 56 is blowing the 2060 basic out of the water and more or less on par with the 2060s which is pretty impressive

Got a link? This would make me feel better about my Vega purchase

which gpu should i pick either 5700 or 5700 XT?
my cpu is
Intel Xeon E3 1231 v3 @ 3.40GHz
Haswell-WS 22nm Technology
is it a bottle neck?
i dont want nvidia because poor linux support

pcpartpicker.com/list/b3nMRJ

How garbage is it ? Trying a build for the first time, wanna have something strong for the next few years for gaming. Dont know if I will be able to stream with this setup though

I just bought a 2080 for 699$ but I have 14 days to return it. Should I and buy the new one?

youtu.be/a5-vCnUC7bM
5700 to OC

>pretty impressive
Is it really all that consequential when the supers are more or less being launched on their price competitiveness rather than pure performance?
Genuinely asking, I'm not too familiar with AMD's range.

>is it impressive that you can buy a card right now that can compete with the latest and greatest for £300 BRAND NEW and potentially close the gap even further if you get samsung memory (which gamersnexus didn't test, just a good generic OC which most people are using) even though said card is EOL and 2 years old
I see what you're saying but yes, it is impressive

you could go mesh and get 2 be quiet fans

>the benchmarks showed that the vega 56 is blowing the 2060 basic out of the water
Stop lying. Vega is losing to every single game except some vulkan or amd sponsored ones.

>losing
yeah by like 3 frames despite the 2060 being brand new
if you're 18 and a 30 year old cripple can bench 225 while you're being 230 then you're getting mogged hard

So how are Navi expected to stand up if the 1070 equivalent (?) can beat the 2060 super (aka 2070 mini)?

5700 xt was better than the 2070 so it might be on par with the 2070 super but I highly doubt it, 5700 will probably get raped by the 2060 super though

wait for zen 3 reviews, 8 threads won't be enough for gaming and streaming

why not call it 2060 ti and 2070 ti?

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>lways choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recomm

No. the first PCIE lane is X16 for graphics. and the M.2 connector is x4, so thats 20 total, unless you have a 10 year old system running older pcie, you wont notice any difference.

to take full advantage of your m.2 drive, check that it is X4 or ULTRA. if its X3 or X2 then it cant get the maximum speed of 4GBPS.

They're making a "refresh" of the 2080, whereas the 2080 ti already exists.

Are you retarded? 1650/900 is already chocking the card and needs +200% power target to run

And what would they call the 2080? 2080Ti?

Thank you, but are you referring to the drive itself? It's the 970 EVO Plus so it's listed as X4 and the mobo is the MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC.

i did as well im gonna sit on it till last 2-3 days then return it and pick up a high end model 2080s they slapped a 100$ off original 2080 price so it should be a better buy

In other words, as long as the mobo supports the nvme drive the nvme drive itself is the only limiting factor since like you said, any crap mobo has more than x20 (assuming you can count that way and just add 16+16+1+1+1).

How much would you guys pay for a used gtx 1080 mini? I was thinking $300 USD is pretty fair

Because the base 2070 is getting the bullet

£0
for me, its the 2070 super

I already have the asus strix version of the 2080 do you think its worth keeping?

But you can’t even get a 2060 for $300

sorry pal I need that rtx (tm) goodness

Strix 2080 is the same version i have but seeing the performance increase from 60 and 70 S make me think if i should have just waited.Plus we might have to wait a month after 2080s is released to get the strix version of it its ultimately up to you if you can wait.

I have a 280x with 8gb ddr3 ram, if I want to upgrade to 16 is it a waste to spend the money on it at this point when I know I'll have to upgrade other things in the future and get on ddr4? I dont care about anything higher than 1080p gaming.

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>retailers in Australia saying they won't have stock until the middle of the month

just fucking kill me bros

i7 9th gen + RTX 2070 super
Dunno wether to stick with 1080p for 144+fps at highest settings, or go with 1440p but with much lower settings in order to get the most FPS possible.
Main worry with 1440p is that I'll have games running at 120+fps and some running at 60fps, and i've heard that once you hit 120+ going back down is the same as going from 60 to 30. (This is compared to 1080 in which every game can be run at 120+ with no issue)

Go with a 1440p 144hz if you're getting a 2070 Super

Daily reminder that amd = pajeets.

Pajeets shit into their water supply before they drink it, therefore, amd users drink and bathe in shit water.

The previous pcbg was removed because amd pajeets couldn't accept their nature. The only thing that distracts them from their body odor is shitposting about how the 3600 will beat the 9900k.

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If you have a 144hz monitor already and feel you're attached to getting 144fps at all times, it's not worth upgrading to 1440p monitor if you don't want to go below 144fps ultra.

I have a 1080p 60hz currently, thats why i'm unsure if I should make the jump or not. I'm told both going 1440p and 144hz are hard to go back from in their own rights.
I also play a mix of games with some favouring the highest fps possible and some just favouring graphics.

pcpartpicker.com/list/MmtHw6
Obviously, I'm gonna replace the 2060 with a 2060 super, but will super work well with the rest of these parts?

If the games you play requiring high frame rates are competitive type games I can't stress enough the difference 144hz vs 60hz can make on your aim in a FPS for example. I'm trying to play on a 60hz setup at the moment while my gayming rig is ded and waiting for Ryzen 3000s to build a new one, and it's fucking awful.

1440p 144hz, easily doable m8
worst case scenario you'll step down on one or two settings on really unoptimized aaa trash

With a gsync/compatible freesync monitor the smoothness is bumped up when you run at ~90 on a 144hz compared to ~45 on a 60hz, even leaving aside the fact that diminishing returns at higher fps means the difference is less noticeable.
1440p 144hz is a bit more expensive than 1080 144hz, so if you don't feel confident with the benchmarks you see of the 9700k+2070 super on youtube or review sites, it might make sense to go for a 1080 144hz for less than 300 dollars rather than spend 500 or more on a 1440p 144hz that you won't get the full 144hz on consistently enough to justify it in your opinion. There are however monitors out there that are 1440p but a frame rate between 60 and 144hz, like 75hz or 100hz, and those are definitely achievable by a 2070 super for the next few years at high settings.
But once again, it's up to you to decide if the 2070 super gets enough FPS at 1440p to justify it in your opinion. I would say that it probably would, and it would make more sense to spend on upgrading just your graphics card when a new generation or two comes out down the road than it would be to have to upgrade both monitor and gpu.

Graphics cards based on current pricing:
>Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty
>Prices are FUCKED BEYOND BELIEF. "Midrange" starts at $350-400.
1080p
>eBay RX 580 8GB - $100-$130 used don't even bother looking at RX 570s this is rock bottom
>GTX 1660 - standard
>Vega 56 (GTX 1660 Ti - if you can't find a Vega 56 under $300 USD
1440p
>Wait for RX 5700/5700XT/5700XT Anniversary Edition benchmarks on 7/7
>RTX 2060 Super - standard Nvidia offering
>RTX 2070 Super - high framerates
2160p (4K)
>Wait for RX 5700XT/5700XT Anniversary Edition benchmarks on 7/7
>RTX 2070 Super - standard Nvidia offering
>RTX 2080Ti - best fit for 4K but expensive

Thanks lads, i'll start looking into good 1440p 144hz monitors that are either gsync or freesync with gsync compatability.

so the vegas are now completely worthless, right?

2060 super blows the 64 out of the fucking water

Vega 56 is still viable as long as you can find it for cheap. This isn't true for every country in the world.

which of these would be better with the 2060 super?
amazon.com/Display-FreeSync-Certified-Productivity-Warranty/dp/B07PZX54QC/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=pixio 275h&qid=1562106949&s=gateway&sr=8-1
or
amazon.com/MSI-Non-Glare-FreeSync-Optix-MAG271C/dp/B07F9YJK76/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=msi 1080p 144hz monitor&qid=1562107148&s=electronics&sr=1-1

I'd pick up a 3600 instead of the 2600 too.

I would go 1440p 144Hz as it can be used in a future, beefier build, but if you're on a tight budget, just go with that 1440p 95Hz monitor. Big dicked resolution plus medium dicked inverted seconds is better than small dicked resolution and big dicked Hertz.

I was thinking of doing that too, but all of the good 1440p 144hz monitors that aren't TN trash are expensive as fuck

pixio probably, 27" 1440p is a better fit than 1080p and you get ips too

>ban evader
Oh look, user's having a schizo episode

>Europe
>Vega 56 - at most €275+shipping from Amazon.de
>2060 (not super) >€350

Of course the new super cards may be a good deal in the US but I don't think they beat Vega's price-performance ratio in the EU.

Sapphire Rx 570 mini itx 133€ new is a steal. Worth as much as a 1050 but with much better performance.

>Used Alienware M18x R2 for $100 a good parts buy? I know it's old but it should still hold up okay for the price. Seller says he fucked with the video card heat sinks to fix a problem that is probably just a frayed ribbon cable so if he didn't break it worse it might just work with a new cable.

>Update: found out from the seller's new feed that the video card heat sink repasting was in 2014. Not sure why he decided after 5 years he didn't want to mess with it anymore.

Update 2: It just werks lmao

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Threadly reminder to all /pcbg/ OP makers to add to the copypasta the following URL:
imgur.com/a/RTbKAxD
after
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

Thank you for your cooperation.

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Seconded

Vega 56 is not cheaper than the normal 2060 in Canada right now. And even when it is, it's barely $30 CAD less. Vega's prices are extremely variable by region.

The motherboard guide.

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I'm not sure how accurate this is, I wouldn't want to grab a Tomahawk B450 and OC on it with a 3900x for example

Imagine unironically posting shit from reddit and thinking you're in good company. Get out.

current mobo is on the absolute shit tier list, why do I always cheap out on mobos

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how much worse is the pixel density on a 32 inch 1440p monitor vs 27 inch?

why would you want to overclock a highend CPU on a lowish motherboard?

I am the reddit guy

That's not the point of the list though, obviously you want a higher end motherboard if you have a 3900X, but it's just denoting that you can still overclock on that board because it has good enough VRMs

My computer powers on but it won't boot. Fans are spinning, motherboard lights are on, getting a single POST beep (long?) which I believe means all checks have succeeded, but there is no video output. The issue is definitely from either the motherboard or the processor but I can't figure out which one. How can I troubleshoot this?

Check and see if your card is plugged in correctly

>Check Display Cable
>Check card
>Check drivers
>Check bios
in that order

>useful info ins't useful because it's from reddit
Wow imagine being this much of a smoothbrain.

Even if it's useful info reddit is still cringe and every redditor is a fag

Yikes.

HOW MUCH ºC ON THE SOC MOS IS OK

We did it Reddit! Here is the v1.1

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LESS THAN WHATEVER THE MAX IS
PROBABLY 115

It's definitely not the graphics card since it did the same thing in a different PC. I reused the motherboard and processor from that PC so it must be caused by one of the two.
It's not the display cable or GPU, I can't check the drivers or BIOS because it's not booting at all.