Rabb.it shutting down

Rabb.it shutting down

>linkedin.com/pulse/hitting-wall-amanda-richardson

tldr investor dropped it last second

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Whats with this pervasive startup culture? Its so much just burning through investor money with no fucking plan whatsoever as to how they actually are going to make any money, using some gay bloated javascript framework for everything, and it's all just a bunch of buzzwords. muh lean, muh pivot, muh canvas.

i really don't know but i like the fact that some investors lost money over this brain fart.

I always wondered how they could possibly make money besides selling user info. And it would be bound to run into DMCA problems once it got popular enough.

e-dating retards btfo

;__;

we should turn Jow Forums into a dating site so it becomes more profitable.

retards already use it to erp on boards where it doesn't belong

kek

I love how she was shocked that the plug was pulled on a project that she freely admits had absolutely no chance of making money.
I was making a selfhosted site for watching videos with friends when I found out about it in 2017. My friends kinda liked it. It worked okay, but the quality could be poor because it was shitty low bandwidth "real-time" encoding. But I could see a mile down the road and I knew they wouldn't make money one something corpos like Disney see as piracy.
So I kept making my site, and two years later I'm watching chinese cartoons with friends in actually perfect sync (within a couple hundred ms) at a good bitrate, and they're shutting down.

Remember kids, if your product is basically "piracy", you can't make money.

So uh what did this actually do? Run a IRC channel next to a stream of some TV channel? This requires a fucking company of 50+ people? This is a dozen man operation at best. Just glancing at their webpage this has been running since 2014-2015. 4-5 years without any plan at making a profit. This company seems either retardedly run or an outright scam. Take shitloads of VC money then just live the high life in a meme company with meme salaries for half decade. Seems like this woman was brought in to figure shit out and when she couldn't and asked for another round of investing they just said fuck it and cut their losses.

>streaming anime

This is unironically good news for me because I'm in the works of making something along the lines of what rabb.it does without the account based bullshit.

the absolute state of Jow Forums

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something like this?

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>This company seems either retardedly run
They made constant UI changes that nobody asked for, also trying to make it into a social media site rather than a tool. It worked so well in beta; clear buttons to lock your room, lock the remote, etc. They got rid of that.

In the beginning you didn't even need an account to join

Used WebRTC to control a VM with Firefox on it. You can pass the remote (the mouse/keyboard control) to people.

Yes exactly like that but with more functionality. Not only YouTube but I also have options to play videos from Twitch Clips, Streamable, Instagram, Twitter, even PornHub.

The goal is to be able to play any video from any source, which you can pretty much do now if you have a .webm/.mp4 link.

remind G2A then, they seem to he making an awful lot of money.

Forgive me for being skittish, but I've never linked to the site publicly and I'd rather not start on Jow Forums of all places. This site is only used by a couple dozen people at the moment and I'm the only account with any playlists on it. Also the help page is woefully out of date, the privacy policy isn't linked anywhere, account creation has a small annoying bug where if you click the email confirmation link on your phone or something, you have to log out and in on your computer to get the role upgrade, and there are some other small but embarrassing bugs. So although it's nice and works well, it would feel like inviting a stranger into my cluttered home if I linked it.

That's pretty much what my thing does, but finding open links without hotlink protection is difficult (only really YouTube works but you have to load their js which feels gross) I tried to do it for a while before settling on just hosting videos myself. Then I found out how much of a bitch it is to self host videos because browsers are very strict about video codec and they don't do basic things like let you switch the audio channel.
So I went and built a service that hooks into sonarr/radarr or just scans files on disk, and turns them into mpeg dash form. It's been a long journey. Good luck with your thing, user.

I guess drug lords make tons of cash too. I was thinking more about legit corpo America.

Thanks senpai. I heavily considered going down the "download the video then stream it route" due to things not working in my favor in early development. Looking back that would've been a really bad move since there's so much overhead involved in that for a realtime streaming service.

Hotlink protection isn't too hard to figure out if you know how to counter malicious behavior. I got a few tricks I won't disclose :)

5 years ago it was way worse. then Sacca and the other amgels started telling people to fuck right off before even hitting series A.

about a year ago or so a startup decided to rent a house next door to me in Berkeley (even the dumbest fucking startups used to be able to afford SF) and I think they JUST secured series A funding like 2 days ago (although they shouldn't have imo, it's NOT a good idea).

you should hear the shit they say.

>overhead involved in that for a realtime streaming service.
How much? I store my media on Wasabi now, and they have free outbound traffic with really reasonable storage rates. My service doesn't store any videos at all, the users are required to figure that out. I just keep playlists of links and provide synchronization of the media player. "Just", but it was a lot of work to get all that right lol.
>Hotlink protection isn't too hard to figure out
Can you bypass referer protection and keyed single use stream protection? Those are what put me out. The obfuscation tricks can be worked around, those really can't afaik.

>How much?
Well, think about it. The server has to download the video file so thats a lot of variables in play right there (bandwidth, file size), save it to a directory, and then stream the video to clients. Imagine if a user requested a video and had to wait like 30 seconds for it to play because the server is downloading it. Now think about hundreds of users doing that at the same time.

The way I have it right now is that I'm literally grabbing URLs off other sites (via API calls etc) and presenting it to clients. It's the smoothest way.

>Can you bypass referer protection and keyed single use stream protection?

Referer protection I've skipped entirely, thats not a problem for me. Single use stream protection is also not a problem either, but I'm a little iffy on that as I haven't tested it yet on a bigger scale.

good, stop using obscure sites

Anybody have ideas on how to set up an alternative for personal use?

My only thought would be like an nginx/rtmp setup that you'd essentially stream to using OBS and then just have a fake-IRC on the side or something.

They made it obscure on purpose so copyright holders wouldn't bother them.

Okay you were doing exactly what I was initially.
>Referer protection I've skipped entirely, thats not a problem for me.
How? Are you not using a web client? You get url, send to browser client, browser makes request with your site's referer, request denied.
>Single use stream protection is also not a problem either
How? You grab url with a one-time key in it, their server logs the IP of the requester for the link, send link to client, client denied because it's the wrong IP. Bypassing this requires the client to get the link themselves, but anyone using keyed urls is also using referer protection, so your ajax from a browser is denied.

Here's an answer to both questions.

CORS proxy.

If you're proxying the requests then you've eliminated lots of the benefits of only passing links. Now you have to handle the bandwidth going out and in at the same time. Granted, you don't have to store much, but bandwidth is more expensive than storage at high utilization.
That's why I cut the middleman and started using sonarr/radarr to get content myself, and decided users would have to do the same, or figure something else out. The sonarr/radarr route is comfy though, since shows just end up added to my site automatically.

does it say when its closing down?

Probably when the site fully breaks from lack of maintenance or when the service provider cuts them off due to non-payment.

but streaming isn't even the best part of rabbit, its screen sharing. you can do things other than watch videos, you can scroll through amazon or read articles or whatever else

>tldr a woman CEO with no economic backup plans got her fundings withdrawn and fires everyone in the company within hours
ftfy

it was a brilliant idea for a site, 2bh. just the poorest execution possible

You can do that with any webrtc screen sharer. There are tons of them. Before that you could use shit like Skype to do it. The problem was always stream quality and lag, which Rabbit didn't solve.

this article is so convoluted. she doesn't even say outright that its shutting down or when.

how does webrtc work? I liked that rabbit had a dedicated browser so nobody could see my history and shit

Rabbit literally used webrtc to do all the streaming. They didn't really invent anything. The sandbox was novel, but Jesus Christ the overhead. Much like the entire site.
If you're worried about people seeing your history, then use a dedicated browser or something. Or just don't worry about it. Nobody cares that you fap to hentai or furshit.

u-uuuwaaaa~ OmO i-i let my boifwendu do a cummy cum in my boipuccccwie ~!!! and he didn't wear a boicondom O////O a-a-am i gonna get fagpreggers now?? 3: i is a too young to be a boimother >///< c-c-can i getsies a boibortion? O////

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getmetastream.com/
This is an alternative.

Meanwhile, these guys popped up (no pun intended) a while ago after rabbit changed the UI. twitter.com/popcorn2934

how do I use it though? I'm on the webrtc site, see a bunch of shit about coding and nothing about screen sharing

Webrtc is the browser technology. Of course if you search it you're going to get dev references.
Try just looking for screen share websites. You can self host using Nextcloud with the Talk plugin if you're a brainlet.

idk what that means....

isn't that was /soc/ is

user detected

I am a loser, but idk what you mean by user

So this is just a worse yuki theater/swamp cinema?

How is that a plan? If it has any fucking success it won't be obscure, will it?

On top of that, this seems like another SaaS crap thing that is really better off as just software. Stream to your friends directly, problem solved without botnet or annoying pricing.

good riddance

literally retard designing the UI

rabb.it will be replaced with Twitch/amazon prime chatrooms and some webrtc p2p streaming platform that i will release later

I don't want your site, link the code

Watcha doing rabbi-t?

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