is using a VPN a complete fucking joke when it comes to privacy?
>server CPU's and your CPU has a backdoor
>your browsing patterns are probably more than enough for tech companies like google identify you
>99% of VPN providers don't even work on Jow Forums
Is using a VPN a complete fucking joke when it comes to privacy?
Jason Lewis
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Ryan Butler
if anything, hackers and all sorts of agencies put a focus on VPN servers since that's where much sensitive info flows through
Eli Green
>your browsing patterns are probably more than enough for tech companies like google identify you
check browser fingerprinting. the combo of your PC settings and browser settings create fingerprint unique enough to select you from millions. And all trackers conveyed as ads has been collecting those across most websites for years. So yes.
>CPU backdoors
non-issue imho
Austin Adams
>is using a VPN a complete fucking joke when it comes to privacy?
Not as long as you respect it's limitations and have realistic expectations.
>>server CPU's and your CPU has a backdoor
VPNs are not for hiding from the NSA/Mossad.
>>your browsing patterns are probably more than enough for tech companies like google identify you
That's why you harden your web browser
Xavier Brooks
Non issue how?
Jeremiah Roberts
>non-issue
Umm
Andrew Gray
You don't understand the point of a vpn. It isn't about privacy, it's about safety.
Dylan Miller
>when it comes to privacy?
Brody Wood
Common VPN protocols and encryption have known backdoors. If you spend time seriously researching computer security, you'll learn that VPNs are useful, but not against the government. They are great however for protecting from packet sniffing and service discovery by random hackers.
Eli Morris
As a follow up, I use a VPN for work to connect computers on separate LANs. This is by far the most common use case of a VPN, and it's more about convenience than anything. The security features are mostly there because it would be quite retarded to send unencrypted private info over the net, there's a safety reason your LAN is partitioned from the WAN
Blake Jones
Not him, but we've learned that Spectre/Meltdown and similar vulnerabilities are on the verge of being impossible to exploit.
Elijah Peterson
sure but isn't it more likely that these exploits and backdoors are being utilized on VPN servers rather than random individuals computers? making it less private to use a VPN in that sense
Justin Young
I just wanna download anime and more RAM for my computer desu
Daniel Reyes
they’re mostly useful to avoid receiving letters from your ISP for torrenting shit
Noah Ramirez
Companies can request CPUs with no Intel management engine. And even if they didn't, there's no case that the management engine has ever been used even in a case of child pronography or something. People just call it a back door because they don't have control over it. If you're using Google over a VPN you are a fucking idiot anyway and defeating the purpose of using a VPN.
Nathan Foster
Honestly threads like this just convinced me that the original poster doesn't have enough money to pay for a VPN and is trying to justify their shity browsing habits by accumulating information that would Place doubt on the verifiability of the security of vpns
Ian Watson
>Companies can request CPUs with no Intel management engine
source?
Leo Nguyen
extremetech.com
This is a consumer option, extend that to mass scale companies.
Jace Powell
VPN's only use is torrenting anonymously and circumventing region locks. If you actually use it for anything more illicit than that, or expect actual 100% anonimity / encryption against government agencies then you are a fucking retard.
Caleb Collins
nice I thought it was only US government
William Johnson
this whole thread is bait
OP is right tho
Eli Collins
Don't tell people this
VPN companies will go bankrupt
Hell
Owen Bell
>99% of VPN providers don't even work on Jow Forums
they do if you know where to look
tip. make your own
Adrian Reyes
how so?
Andrew Anderson
>VPN
>Glorified proxies
Wyatt Smith
There's no reason to use your own "VPN" (actually a fucking proxy, you fucking retards, a VPN is total overkill for web browsing and it's a misnomer anyway) unless you have a fake identity the proxy is owned by. Anything you do will be traceable to you, you are literally better off to connect through McDonalds or some public wifi, than to use a proxy registered to yourself. Owning your own proxy is probably the worst idea if you are trying to make your internet browsing secure and private, it's even worse than using your house connection with https.
If you are trying to get around some sort of firewall or censorship, just use different dns and https. If you are doing something that you don't want someone to know about, then you'd have to be fucking retarded to think that paying someone to use their VPN or proxy, or paying for a server that hosts the same, would protect you in any way (all it does in reality is make you stand out and centralize history of what you're doing)
Josiah Stewart
you are on Jow Forums if you use VPN then it is self-hosted. Right anons? RIGHT???