>Assemble a part list pcpartpicker.com/ >Example gaming builds and monitor suggestions; click on blue titles to see notes pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/ >How to assemble a PC youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable) CPUs based on current pricing: Zen2 CPUs are already confirmed by AMD to be worse in gaming than the cheaper equivalent Intel. Only consider them if you care about multithreaded stuff. >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >i5 9400F/9600k - Great gaming CPUs >i7 9700K - Extreme solution for absolute max FPS >i9 9900K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing >i9 7980XE - HEDT RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty NAVI is already superseded by the RTX Super lineup before it's even out 1080p >GTX 1660/ti - standard >RTX 2060/Super - high framerates (requires complementary intel CPU and monitor) 1440p >RTX 2060 Super - standard >RTX 2070 Super - high framerates (requires complementary intel CPU and monitor) 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 Super - standard >RTX 2080Ti General: >Always avoid AMD if gaming >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING imgur.com/a/RTbKAxD >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
Reminder that: >AMD had 9 more months to develop Zen 2 >Zen 2 uses a 50% shorter transistor architecture than i9 (7nm vs 14nm) >Zen 2 uses more cores/threads And despite that its performance is still WORSE and it's more EXPENSIVE.
Christian Bell
The point of mobos aren't backwards compatibility. So don't make that a point. If you don't like it and it has no uses for you with its new features just get an older board. Got myself a b450 recently used because I know what I need. Buy a mobo for your needs not useless features you don't need.
Ryan Reed
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Christian Gonzalez
Yeah its also a brand new architecture that hasn't been tweaked balls to the walls like intel did. Intel has reached its limits. Zen 2 hasn't even had its first refresh yet. Don't for get with and you get same performance for half the power draw. Your doing a poor comparison by not taking all factors into account.
Eli Ramirez
>someone saved the amd maymay I made sheeeit nigga, I made it
I get that you're an Intel fanbitch, but none of those are arguments against the actual product. If Zen's overall better (which in all probability it will be), then it's better, period. Who gives a shit if AMD got to use a smaller node or had more time? THE PRODUCT WILL BE BETTER.
Cope
Owen Garcia
>Are there any recommended x570 boards? >I've seen the list and it's fucking huge. Check prices and see what's your use case. We can't tell you. But if you pool your options we can pick one for you. This makes your choice much easier.
>Who gives a shit if AMD got to use a smaller node or had more time? THE PRODUCT WILL BE BETTER. This Imagine paying a premium for dirty cheap ancient 14nm tech. Your paying out the ass for last decades leftovers? Tsk tsk tsk
Alexander Baker
>Check prices and see what's your use case. We can't tell you. But if you pool your options we can pick one for you. That's fair. Thanks, user.
I'm actually rooting for ayymd but I can't help myself poking fun at amdoredtv shills and their make believe numbers pulled straight out their ass
Dylan Flores
power consumption?
Julian Flores
I did too, fa/g/
Lucas Kelly
no, the number in the name of the product
Charles Murphy
I'd only use this list if you're planning on running your CPU at stock, I think it becomes a bit contentious when it comes to OCing for some of the older boards in particular
It's a good starting point tho
Daniel Cook
French prices are out : 3200G - 119€ 3400G - 180€ 3600 - 240€ 3600X - 300€ 3700X - 390€ 3800X - 470€ 3900W - 590€ What were the announced prices again?
I've been eyeing 3700x or 3800x. I also said a few days earlier that I expect the price for 3800x to be something like this or 353.5eur+25%VAT is 441eur plus profit margins gives us the price we're looking at. You didn't expect the EU countries to sell for MSRP did you?
Chase Jones
thank you for the input user, I'll take what you said into consideration. I'll probably also wait until the monitors announced at computex release and choose one based on that
Charles Rogers
what I really want is g-sync/freesync low-latency TVs/big displays. I would love a gaming-certified projector too. I like bigger screens, which is why I'm most likely going up from 1080p 24" to 1440p 32" class.
Owen Lee
Keep fighting the good fight user, no matter how many times you get reported by ass blasted AMDrones.
Aiden Ortiz
I'll probably get one of these monitors in november sales, or will wait for new IPS lg ultragear ones LG UltraGear 38GL950G, 27GL850G, 27GL650F Just sharing what I'm thinking of buying, somebody correct me if my choices are bad (ignore the MSI monitor)
The leaked benchmarks have already suggested as much but the difference is fairly minimal (~5905 vs 6074 on a geekbench comparison I saw) compared to the huge difference in multi threaded performance.
Bentley Morales
Isn't it a fair bit cheaper?
Christopher Jackson
At the very least you waited for confirmation.
Kayden Martinez
Would it having 2 less fps in fortnite while being 50% faster in multicore REALLY be that devastating to you, user?
who would give 70$ more for 0.1Ghz (boost is all that matters senpai) >b-but BINNED brainlet
Aiden Hernandez
Will there be any reason to buy NAVI now that Super exists?
Hudson Nguyen
i think most of us are waiting for reviews. I just hope that bios enabling OC came out so we can see the reviews for OC
Connor Rivera
They are brainlets, the binning between the 3700X and the 3800X will be practically identical. Also I've seen dumbasses saying that the 3700X will be worse at overclocking when it has a lower TDP
Daniel Moore
It's still a question of price. Nvidia more or less just cut down the amount of room AMD have where their products at RRP are the clear winners. And just the fact that they've created buzz over the supers as "navi killers" at all is a victory for them, because casuals don't typically have the time or ability to decipher the truth from marketing or fanboy fantasy. (Although these days when you can just watch FPS counts on popular games with lots of different hardware configuration on youtube, it's less so than it was in the past).
Andrew Baker
I have a GTX 980 and a GTX 1060. They are extremely similar in terms of performance but is one better for VR than the other, or is it worth upgrading? I was hoping to avoid the 20-series.
Luis Adams
Considering the $50 difference between 3600 and 3600X, is it worth it to get the 3600X or are the benefits very minimal?
Juan Price
>I was hoping to avoid the 20-series. Why?
Anthony Rodriguez
why does AMD always fall short and over exaggerate bros...... it was supposed to be their turn
Jacob Hughes
Probably worth waiting on reviews to really get an answer for that question but from what we know right now I'd say it'd be better to go get the 3600 and use the extra $50 to get a decent CPU cooler if you want to OC your CPU later on
Jayden James
Thanks
Lincoln Powell
wait for reviews, literally just 3 days away
If the leaked specs area true then they are pretty much the same, do take note that NAVI won't work on linux or that's what I read scouring the web for more info. Looking at prices rtx2070 is falling nicely in price and will cost the same as super 2060 if not even less (talking about rog strix and higher end cards) and 2080 has been falling in price and has better performance then 2070super. 750eur was starting price for rog strix 2070, now they are at 520-550eur,so 2070 super will cost over 700 eur. I can get a decent 2080 for that price and it's still better then super.
Benjamin Price
I get the impression that the prices are inflated due to being developed during the crypto bubble. I'm open to a 2080 maybe, but $1400 or whatever for the Ti is ridiculous.
Wait for reviews and make a decision from there. With the exception of the 2060, they all have bad price/performance, and it only gets worse when you get to the 2080 and especially the ti
Jackson Perez
it's a month old bro other than that, i see zero artifacts in game
Ian Butler
And everyone will as usual buy Ryzen while Intel sales go to shit even harder and Intel dissolves.
Who knows, personally i would go with a 3600 and a big silent cooler, when i bought the 2600x i went with that one because it had a better stock cooler and the price difference was like $20.
Liam Reyes
>With the exception of the 2060 Even the 2060 is pretty bad value. For 350USD, the card should be 1080Ti perf, following a 780Ti ~ 970, 980Ti ~ 1070 pattern.
Landon Gray
Anyone excited for the super series?
Zachary Price
No, at least not for a while.
John Hill
If you wanted to make celebrity deepfakes, what would you go for processor/gpu-wise?
Samuel Scott
piledriver setup for sure.
Logan Anderson
Excited, not really. I'll probably end up buying the 2070S in a few months though since there's nothing better
Joseph Clark
I thought the 3600 was gonna be $200 USD At least now I can get the 2600X and not regret it.
Should I make the Cooler Master H500 or the Fractal Design Meshify C my next case?
Levi Martinez
it is going to be 200. are you retarded? >frogposter okay, carry on sir
Angel Adams
thermaltake p90
Brayden Wood
Too expensive and looks retarded
Charles Thompson
h500
Elijah Gray
I can't recommend the CM H500 enough but it's a beefy case size wise. Awesome out of the box thermals though, especially if you're not using any 3.5" HDDs and can take the HDD tray out too.
Zachary Hill
Why are you so fucking hostile? So far, it HASN'T been $200. I'm basing my post off the prices that have been revealed so far. What's wrong with that?
Adrian Davis
what the fuck lmao
Julian Adams
>I'm basing my post off the prices that have been revealed so far. >revealed AMD themselves said MSRP is 199USD for US buyers, retard.
Jose Taylor
how long do u guys think the 1660 ti will last at 1080p? I dont think I can fit the 2060 into muh budget (unless prime day discounts it)
Justin Gomez
Parts don't always sell for MSRP value. I still don't get why you're so mad.
Benjamin Adams
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Cameron Perez
Your video card is fucked. Try reseating it and blowing it out and stuff. Maybe run BIOS diagnostics on it. I'm guessing it only kicks up when you launch a game since the desktop works fine, possibly on integrated graphics?
Adrian Campbell
yes, 1 month old ryzen igpu.
Christian King
is it worth waiting for prime day if I haven't bought anything yet but was just waiting for 7/7?
Kevin King
What motherboard do I want if I want to do IOMMU / PCIe passthrough on Ryzen 3000?
Thomas Rivera
hmmm $900 for a ryzen 3700x + 16 gb of ram + 1tb nvme + b450 motherboard in euroland a little rustled right here.
Adrian Murphy
I'm not even the guy who replied earlier. Just keep calling people mad when they call out your stupidity The CPUs will be at MSRP at launch, after that depends on supply
Jaxson Miller
860 evo is 120eur tho so you could skip on nvme and save 25 euros mobo prices should fall if even a little, but yes, high prices, tempting to just sit and wait till november
Carson Peterson
Found an extremely cheap (180NZD) Sapphire-brand RX 580 for sale. Is Sapphire a decent brand?
Connor Barnes
the best one for amd
Gavin Ward
I'm already full on my sata slots, so i need the nvme. I would actually have liked an x470 board but it seems none of them have the usb bios update and too lazy to buy a 1200 and then upgrade the bios, otherwise the gigabyte aorus gaming 7 seems like a solid board, since it's only $30 more expensive than the b450 tomahawk.
Mason Garcia
I've read they plan to put new batches of x470 with the new bios so that we don't have to hassle with it. I'm still waiting on x570 reviews but I'm in the same pickle as you, don't know if the sellers put new bios or I have to pay to some repair shop to flash the bios since I don't want to buy older ryzen cpus.
Henry Fisher
Depends completely on non-reference card pricing.
Kevin Ramirez
The overclocking on the older boards only comes down to good or bad vrm mostly. so getting an b350 that actually has good vrm and such wouldn't be bad at all. The only problem is if you look at all the b350 and x370 series all the vrm's are completely different to the 450 and 470. That's why so many are unsuitable for newer ryzen. I'm sure that's due to it being newer they didn't put their best foot forward. Anyways b450 and 470 are perfectly fine for newer CPUs. Just as this list rightfully shows. As it also shows how shit the 3xx series was. The only reason all the x570 look so good is that's the best they have to offer. This isn't showing all the lower end crap that'll be released later.
Jonathan Phillips
Sapphire cards are among the best. If it's the pulse yeah. That the best rx580 on the market. Best thermals and performance.
This may be the stupidest question ever asked, but does the cable for the actual AC outlet to the PSU matter? Will anything work as long as it’s got the right amount of prongs, or will certain cables do bad things?
Camden Cooper
you want three prongs and three holes on the other end but otherwise they're basically the same.
Owen Ortiz
>the nitro is the best one but the pulse is fine Now that you mention it I heard about it so long ago I might be mixed up. Like the guy said above Only if the cables faulty. You want clean electricity running to your pc. So you don't want any fluctuations. Just don't use a cable you've duct taped together and you'll be fine.
Logan Davis
>So you don't want any fluctuations. A decent PSU should iron that out to a certain degree.
Joshua Garcia
Lol Fuck off you troll.
Oliver Reyes
IT DOESNT WORK ANYMORE WITH STOCK VOLTAGE THIS MONTH OLD iGPU HELP WHAT THE HELL
Levi Bennett
>mfw the best value motherboard solution at this very moment is an ITX board from MSI
Wow, they're actually cheaper here in Portugal. But I guess the lower salaries cancel it out.
Benjamin Williams
Here's a tip:
Buy a better mousepad before you buy a better mouse.
Nolan Roberts
Welp, it's time to emigrate. At least there are still some B450M Mortar around. Praying the benches are good, because the 2600X is about 180€ on Amazon. It's replacement, the 3600X really needs to be damn good. I hope so.
