Navi benchmarks leaked

About that, videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-lower-the-price-of-radeon-rx-5700-series-ahead-of-launch

So, in one bench it matches the 2070S, on the other it beats it, and the power consumption is less.
Nice rebrand novidiots.

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Still not enough, this 2 cards are worth $300 and 200 tops, they are still overpriced.

Looks like the same as usual, depends on whether you value price or performance

And it loses in the rest of the benchmarks

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Oh for sure. AMD looks like the people's champion, but they're still overpricing these small dies to all fuck. The Xt should be at most $300 and then it's a god tier buy.

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Not even close to being enough of a discount. Including taxes, the cheapest RTX 2060 (which offer the same perf and perf/watt as a 5700) goes for $349, and you're saying that a 5700, that'll go for at least $422 is somehow going to sell?

>5700XT loosing to a 2060 foundry edition
probably a matter of driver optimization as always with AMD, especially since RDNA is so different to GCN
give it 4-6 weeks

Did you fucking read the article? the 5700 is down to $349 specifically to compete with the 2060. The XT anniversary editions are more than $449.
But by these benchmarks, the 2060 would still perform better unless you're at 4k where 2GB more vRAM matters.

Did you read the fucking post?

It's $422 AFTER taxes, same as cheapest 2060 AFTER taxes being $349. MSRP means fuckall.

where can I find a 2060 for 350 after taxes

What shithole has a 20% sales tax? and does that same shithole has regular 2060 for sale at $289 after EOL?

I thought I was fine playing 1080p60 with my rx480.
But then I realized I pretty much missed all the japanese RPGs since FF9.
I didn't buy any console since then, so that's why.
Good thing they're all on Steam, right?
Wrong, you need a 1080Ti to play those shit games.

Oh well, it's $355 now, was $349 yesterday.

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so it performs like a Vega and is priced like a Vega?

Does the 2060 super at least has 8GB?

yes.

Performs like Vega, uses less power, costs more. AMD just went full fucking retard with their pricing after RX series.

>5 years later AMD still can't beat 1080ti
woah

>what do we do now, nvbros?

We buy the 2070 Super?

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EOL is a bitch, I called it before because no fucking way stores would lower the price on limited stock hardware even with a superior version releasing immediately after.

At the very least it shouldn't sound like a jet engine.
And I have a vega64.

1080 Ti was a $700 card
and it was less than 2.5 years old

No one should buy any of this overpriced garbage. No Nvidia or AMD. Fucking kikes.

This shithole. And no, Nvidia cards usually don't really get cost significant cost cuts, on the other hand you can find some very tempting AMD deals once it nears EOL. I've seen new Vega 56s go for as low as ~$250.

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Give it a few weeks/month.
The only thing that could happen is that either NoVideo or AMD will lower some prices.

FC5 is clearly engine or CPU limited more than GPU limited considering this test

>be AMD
>rate a 590 at 175W TDP
>release a 5700XT with 215W TDP
>uses 5w less than a 175W TDP card
Am I supposed to be confused?

wasn't it 225W?
150W for RX480, 175W for RX580 and 225W for RX590

shit you're totally right boss

For Navi they stated both TDP and TBP. I think TDP was supposed to be 150W for 5700 and 180 W for 5700XT. Nvidia only does TDP.

It looks like the 5700 AIB cards will launch on the 17th.

Still better prices than Nvidia.

People only want cheaper AMD cards so Nvidia will 'have to' price theirs lower.

Yeah it's 225W TDP but supposedly it uses less in games with the new "game clock" which is automatic voltage/clock control.

Making me interested in that 5700XT, to see how well it undervolts. Wouldn't be surprised if you can get 2070 performance at 2060 power consumption.

AMD might actually be right that the blower is fine when power consumption is that low.
GPU is probably only using around 170W there.

Didn't they say they patched out power tables for navi?

It competes with the 2070, which is really all you could expect given AMD's official statements and marketing slides.
Looks like undervolted VII is still going to be neck and neck in terms of efficiency though.

Lisa Su is great at whipping the R&D departments into gear, but she is absolutely retarded when it comes to aggression in the market. They could 100% steamroll Intel in every segment of the CPU market and even significantly undercut Nvidia if they actually picked a competitive price point. Navi needs a hard price cut, and fast.

>AMD might actually be right that the blower is fine
they limited the fan RPM, messed with the fan control algorithm again and made some tweaks to the cooler itself, so it might not sound like an actual leafblower for a change
I'd still absolutely expect the temps to be well over 80C
this sunday is going to be fun

Oh for sure. In the CPU side, I don't think the prices are too bad, but they could have been better without the existence of the 3800x(terrible CPU please don't fall for it).
On the GPU side, I thought it was going to be another Polaris moment but this time it could have definitely worked. Consider this: by the time Polaris launched, Nvidia released the 1060 for just a little more and at the time completely blew Polaris out of the water. Now, AMD could have released the 5700XT for $300 and I can guarantee you people will flock to it en masse. This time Nvidia can't release anything for $350 and completely destroy it unless they the madmen do an unlikely move of dropping the 2070S to that price. At that point we all win except them.

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with the price cut Navi looks good
Vega is still best performance for the $

Afaik this is the same blower that was on Vega 64, a 250-295W card.
It was actually a great blower, it just couldn't handle THAT much heat.
On a 170-225W card it should be fine.
People who undervolted their Vegas to 160-210W said it was fine and didn't understand what the fuss was about.

Price cut is a rumor and likely wrong.
Probably a rumor made by Nvidia shills to make the $450 5700 XT beating the $500 Super seem like a bad buy since it's not actually $400.

Just wait for optimized drivers.

Nvidia always wins.
AMD street shitters will always be on the losing end.

How many of these do we have to go through before you fucking retards finally understand?
AMD is for people trying to get decent performance on a budget. They can never compete with Nvidia/Intel.

How does it feel to be blinded by the top end product?

Vega 64 is 315€ right now new

Wait for those undervolts.

Reminder that even if AMD priced it at $199, 1660 would've still outsold it.

Yes, and?