5700 is overpriced

>5700 is overpriced
>5700 should be a $250-$300 card
>we waited 3 years for a polaris replacement and got a $350 card to replace the RX 580 lol
>5700 XT should have 12gbs of vram with a 384 bit wide mem bus for $400 then it would be a great deal.

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Sp the engineers and finance xperts shluld have asked you?

You probably never asked yourself why everybody is stupid and you are the only smart one.

Im just saying what the cards should have been.Obv they wont be priced there

also I coundnt post my original post because the "ai" saw it as "spam"
So I couldnt explain myself so I just gave a short version of it

No it should be $200

I wouldn't pay more than $150 for 1080ti performance

it should be, but I tried to be semi resonable.
If there is a $200 navi card watch is be 20% faster for 3 years of waiting

>refresh of a refresh of a refresh of refresh of a refresh of a refresh of 390x

Why would anyone pay more than $100 for 2080 performance with 12GB of VRAM? $400 is a rip off

mate youre just being a retard rn.
a 5700 (NON XT) is a mid range $200 gpu lol.
1080 performance for $200-299 in 2019 is not something stupid to say. the 1080 is a $500 card from 2016 (yeah it was $600 bla bla bla, they dropped prices)

>blower design
Come on man, these cards won't just be blowers right?

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$300? Why would we price a midrange GPU for $350? A midrange GPU should be sold at $500.

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>a 5700 (NON XT) is a mid range $200 gpu lol.
2060 is a $150 low end GPU, then. lol

"amd's blower cards are cool and quiet"
"and the average consumer will struggle to cool a blow down fan design"

Yeah AMD putting blowers on those cards is autistic

Man im sad to see my TU106 60 card marked as a 70 card go away :(
It was such a good deal as all nvidia fanfags called it

you are one autist
I bet youve known computers for like a fucking year and think you know the whole pc world

>ironic quotes that are actually the truth
amazing how that backfired

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ITT poorfags

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Every GPU is overpriced. I paid about 300€ for my GTX 570 and it was second fastest gaming card NVidia offered at the time.

thats about average for a 70 card. But $500 for a 70 card (2070S) is pushing 80 card range. Which a 2070S is not an 80 card its an... actual 70 card unlike the normal 2070 which was a fucking TU6 card for $500-600

11 GB of GDDR6 RAM? Why would we put 8 GB on a midrange GPU? I can't believe you're suggesting we put as much as 6 GB on them.

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Fuck it, want 24gbs? Man do I have the card for you

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Why sell for 250 if the goyim will pay 350?

Fake. 2060 FE ain't that hot nor loud.

as they did with the rx480, they will likely do a refresh quickly to keep pace but never blow you away. most people buy the low end parts, so they are perfectly hitting the price to performance ranges.

Perhaps AI was not wrong.

Do they even need GDDR6 over 5 at their performance level...?

mfw Navi actually btfos whatever nvidiots have to offer at price point even with jet cooling solutions
Gonna sell my 1080 aorus and get sapphire 5700

We can thank nvidia for pushing the price of the various perfomance price brackets.

>fake news
cope

yep.
Navi is so based, it outperforms even with a blower cooler.
Nvidiots are stunned and haven't been able to come up with a narrative yet.

>$500
More like $800 tbqh. Tu106 is entry level stuff.

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>over priced
>better price/performance than any nvidia card this gen
>better price/performance than any of the rtx 2060Super/2070 tier

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Bros, when do the open air design for the 5700xt cards release? Is it shortly?

Next month

Can I get a source / quick rundown?

Also do you think I should just buy everything apart from the gpu and just wait patiently while not being able to assemble use it? My first computer and I'm excited so I kinda have autism and want to get it all at once and play with it but Im scared if stuff goes out of stock what do I do?

Would they have been better off just using 14nm? It's 20% less transistors than vega, they probably could have used HBM again due to cheaper die costs and offset most of the power use differences.

Samsung 12nm, maybe. Probably would have only been 10% higher power consumption and 10% worse performance.
TSMC 7nm is a big jump in density but not so much in performance as you can see with Radeon VII.
But I think TSMC 7nm is cheap enough that it's worthwhile going with.

Either 17th or August. Not sure which.

So what are the price drop predictions? Is there any chance for 2070 (not super, not reference) to be sold for 400€ anytime soon?

I was hoping for at least some price competition, but it does not seem like anything significant is going to happen.

Just get your 5700xt and call it a day.
Priced like 2060 super, actually performs somewhere between 2070 and 2070 super.

500mm2 chip. nvidia actually can't go lower, amd sure could've done another $30 down to make yourself indisputable mid range king

Based and moneypilled

how many MH/s on eth?

>7nm
>still can't beat Nvidia on raw power
someone needs more White heterosexual males in their core design team

it's already best value in terms of $/fps

Just crossflash a 5700 with XT vbios.

>Using a fucking Blower
>Still lacking in emulation
>Still has issues on efficiency
These are things AMD still sucks at to this day.

They're certainly better than Nvidia's offerings with Turing but still not the price/performance of Polaris MSRP at launch.

So, any news on next gen? Probably be a couple years for a new architecture and we have heard nothing so likely they haven't even started

>RX 5500 series is a thing
>RX 5600 series is a thing
>RX 5800 series is a thing
>RX 5900 series is a thing
your point?

>RX 480 at launch
>$230
>trades blows with GTX 980

>5700XT at launch
>$399
>trades blows with GTX 1080ti

Seems reasonable... The 5700 could arguably have been priced lower

how do faggots like you not constantly forget to breathe

everytime amd releases a card it goes like that:
>amd should release a mid to high mid for 300 if possible for 250
>amd should have slapped 64 gigs of ram
>amd should have fucking obliterated nvidia with a low tier gpu
>amd this
>amd that

fuck those cunts

not its only going to be blower cards, there wont be other version from other companies, just these blowers.

The XT trades blows with the RTX 2070 Super but it's a step below the 1080 ti in most titles. The 1080 Ti is more or less on par with the 2080 and no one is saying the XT beats that.

Can you provide one good argument for why the 570/580(590) replacement shouldn't cost around $299 max? $349 and $399 for reference cards is too much. It only seems like "good value" because it's compared to nVidias mopoly pleb milking prices. We really need a price war.

(Also, europoor here, I checked the prices in my country: the 5700 is $443 equivalent, and the 5700XT is $506, for blowers - yes, nVidia stuff is even more, the regular RTX 2070 is a bit more than the 5700XT)

And the RX 480 was also a step below the GTX 980 in most titles..

That was more or less my thoughts but the XT isn't really positioned as a 590 replacement but more like the 56 or an old gtx *70 card before they crippled them.

gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-vs-AMD-RX-480/2576vs3634

gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/3918vs4045

What you're saying makes sense but I have doubts. I don't want to belittle the XT but I still have trouble believing it's beating last year's flagship if Radeon still feels they need to drop prices.

Wait this argument is flawed, the RX 480 performs equal to a GTX 970. It's stupid to even compare it to the GTX 980.
gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-AMD-RX-480/2577vs3634
gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-5700-XT-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2080/4045vs4026

If these are accurate the XT should be an absolute beast.

You have to look up the launch reviews for the RX 480 to get the full picture. I remember them well enough. AMD pitched the 480 as offering 980 performance for $230, but at launch they didnt really deliver, it was closer to the 970 in most titles.

But since then the 980 has been punished for the 4Gb memory in newer titles.

The Vega 56 is about $326 equivalent here now. I'd get it for the great overall value, but it seems to struggle to max out FPS in some esports titles, so that's why I was thinking of getting the 5700 or XT, but they're just too expensive. I don't need it now-now, just before Cyberpunk 2077 drops, because my 200-series card isn't going to do that without immersion-ruining low detail levels.

I say wait for after market cards for both sides. Since both offerings are more competitive than before, there should be a mini price competitions in the next few months when after market cards hit the shelves and another price cut by the holiday seasons.

The problem is that i need cuda support, so i have to stick with nvidia.

ROCm has some sort of solution for converting CUDA code.
But it's not 100% hands off. It needs capable hands.