Ryzen 3700X + Super 2070, currently lacking a motherboard and RAM.
Question time.
I don't really care for X570, due to the fan and the price, but is PCI-E 4.0 a big deal? AMD says it's the best chipset out at the moment, but what would I be sacrificing if I went without? There's a good chance I would get a new graphics card in about 5 /6 years, on the same motherboard, will I need PCI-E 4.0? (Don't really give a shit about SSDs etc). I think I'd rather go with B450/x470 and save £100 which can go on the more expensive RAM Ryzen demands, if X570 isn't necessary.
On that note, which RAM/mobo combo should I go with? It seems Ryzen wants 3600MHz RAM at CL16, however all of the B450 boards I'm looking at support up to around 3200MHz/3400MHz and I don't want to lose performance. Some boards state they support up to 4000MHz (OC) but what the fuck does the OC mean? That I'm OC'ing the RAM or the motherboard? I ask the last part because I was under the impression infinity fabric and RAM clocks were totally coupled up last gen
>graphics card in about 5 /6 years, on the same motherboard, will I need PCI-E 4.0? Yes.
Ethan Wood
Pcie4.0 is meh-tier. I will skip it without hesitate.
Asher Young
aiming to go 3600X (or 3700X if i feel like burning money) + 2070S here too
current plan is: >MSI X570-A Pro (couldnt find anything cheaper in my country) >3600X/3700X (probably 3600X, 3700X seems overkill) >GSkill Trident Z 16GB 3200MHz CL16 >2070S >Kingston A1000 480GB M.2 NVMe
Any B450 with BIOS flashback and decent VRMs like B450 Tomahawk should be fine
Noah Reyes
I dropped a 3700x into my x470 board and had no issues. Don't see a need for pcie 4 yet because lack of stuff using it and I'm not really hammering my nvme ssds that hard
Oliver Young
I see you are building a gaming rig. In that case you really should go with an Intel CPU like the i7 9700K.
Samuel Nelson
I assume you will keep the mobo for much longer than 5/6 years if you're getting a new GPU for it then, so about 10 years? I'd invest more into something I'd be using for 10 years.
Jace Butler
Just get whatever RAM it doesn't matter anymore.
Ian Hill
anything other than 9900k just for the sake of being top tier is fucking retarded. 8700 and 9700 anything died yesterday.
Matthew Young
Don't be delusional. The 8000 and 9000 lineup is still very powerful.
Hunter Carter
Intel shills really trying every trick in the book now
Jordan Thompson
If going for a 9900k, buy a 9900KS. Guaranteed 5GHz out of the box
Owen Murphy
See I have been very tempted to buy the tomahawk, but the supported RAM list doesn't include 3600MHz, even though it may well do so. I just don't want to risk it.
What speed/latency RAM are you using? I'm looking for a board I can put 3600MHz CL16 into.
That's the RAM I've been looking at, it seems like a good choice for the new Ryzens, given the RAM they seem to prefer.
Possibly, but this is the video that has me concerned about RAM and motherboards:
It's "powerful" at gaming, shit at everything else
Michael Walker
Why can't he buy it years later? it's not like he's gluing hardware to the motherboard.
Logan Lee
What is the KS all about?
Andrew Lopez
I'd wait on x570 and see if there's a board with passive or modular cooling in the next 9 months. You don't need to buy the new processor immediately
Isaac Peterson
Why do these x570 motherboards have fans on them? Small fans make a horrific white noise.
Ryder Walker
The new chipset consumes 15W of power as opposed to 5w before.
Elijah Powell
3200 Mhz CL 14 b die since that is what I used with my ryzen 2600. I can OC that to whatever AMD said was ideal pretty easily.
Carson Morris
Is it true B350 board don't support XFR2? I was planning to just replace my 1600 with a 3700X, but if there's a 10% performance loss because of no XFR2 there's no point
Connor Mitchell
Most 9900k will overclock to 5ghz fairly easily tho, so what's the point?
Ayden Anderson
It's just a binned 9900K, if it doesn't hit 5GHz all core OC, it ain't a KS.
Christopher Sanchez
you will be overclocking the ram. All ddr4 is clocked at 2133MHz out of the box, and you have to manually set it (overclock it) to the rated clock in the bios. Also known as XMP. I wouldn't shoot all the way for 3600MHZ just out of cost saving measures, and I think the return diminishes quite a bit after around 3200MHz. I'm currently running R7 2700x with gigabyte rtx 2070 gaming white and 16GB 3000MHz and I'm pretty happy with the performance I'm getting.
Matthew Anderson
Most, not all. Besides, the 9900KS will have a higher shot at getting a better OC beyond 5GHz since it's binned higher.
This is intel's answer to the Zen2 release. Take it or leave it.
Brayden Martin
>If going for a 9900k, buy a 9900KS. Guaranteed 5GHz out of the box Every 9900K does 5.0 out of the box KS is $550 and K just $450-$480 KS - is just a factory OC it's not even a better bin.
Tyler Jenkins
Get B450 now, wait for B550 and change it then, selling the old board, probably the best case scenario, since next gen motherboards should have a different socket and DDR5
Easton Ortiz
Honestly for me even if AMD beats intel on raw numbers I like the way Intel CPUs run games. Feels more authentic over Another Massive Disappointment
Nolan Cook
KillSelf Either a jab at the buyer or a warning on the power usage/heat it generates
Parker Roberts
Yeah, how could we live without the Intel™ patented stutters
Adrian Morales
> There's a good chance I would get a new graphics card in about 5 /6 years
You might want to upgrade CPU at that time as well. DDR5 RAM should be standard at that time, and PCI 5.0 comes in 2021 (or 2022?).
Buying for PCI 4.0 right now as an average consumerfag is retarded.
Adrian Lewis
Ok thanks for the info, very important info that too.
Zachary James
Ah, what AMD users usually do after looking at the benchmarks ;^), I hear ya *wink wink* They have to have fans on their motherboards now too lmao.
