ITT: Planned Obsolescence

It's the best option we got bro it's human nature bro why would we ever try to make things better bro what, do you hate America bro?

Free market my dude, just wait until the chinks start producing 1M hours light-bulbs.

I can live with it on household products.
Whats really frightening is the alternative spin of keeping people sick when it comes to the medical business.

>arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/curing-disease-not-a-sustainable-business-model-goldman-sachs-analysts-say/

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED_filament

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It legitimately is as long as you have an informed consumer base. Meanwhile everything else just fucks even more people over at no additional benefit.

No, this was a spring, just like normal incandescent bulbs.

good goy, buy a new ride, new! better than the previous model of ride!

>hepatitis C has a cure.....
>a CURE
>but using it will not make us money so we won't use it

Jesus fucking Christ.

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This is so fucked up it is beyond words
>inb4 this thread is raided by libertarians

G is for Gatorade®, it's what plants crave™.

> Join me after the break
The fuck does this even mean?

This is what you get for having a dumb nigger government that listens to the kikes running big pharma.

>>Recognize that number 1 was a trick. If you decided on any particular number, you've already planned for your application to become obsolete.
This is mental illness. Anyone who's worked in any professional capacity should realize you shouldn't expect more than a few years of compatibility, especially with software aimed at consumer devices.or anything remotely platform specific (in reality everything)

In cases like that the government should step up. Theres no reason the government cant mandate out of production or out of patent drugs to be produced by a government body.

The real crime is that doctor lobbying groups have lobbied to restrict funding for residencies, which hospitals keep artificially cost prohibitive in partnership with medical schools. Doctors are fucking scumbags baka.

Do you not see that capitalism is about fuckin the consumer up? That is why there is advertising and lobbying and why trillions are being poured down the sink for such unproductive pursuits. Last I checked it was like 1/6 if the world economy is just advertising. And that creates a bunch of confused retarded consumers who don't make proper decisions.
The consumers will never win, they have been completely defeated. Capitalism treats wealth as the new god, and most of the world's wealth is no longer in the hands of mere consumers. The very god you made moves against you.

It will consume everything in its path, unhindered by morals and only rarely slowed by ethics
But even then its better than the alternative

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This thread is spiking my anxiety why did I come here? I know this shit is happening and I am just trying to hack together an education and career before the middle class finally dies and my family is thrown into poverty. I owe my dad so much, he is only getting older and I need to hurry up and support myself so I can support him FUUUCCK DAMN IT I WAS DOING SO WELL WHY AM I CRIPPLED BY ANXIETY

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Imagine unironically believing this.

I FUCKING RECOGNISE THAT IMAGE
YOU SHITPOST ON POL TOO HAHA
FUCKING DIE REDDITOR

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>people are misinformed so there's no point in properly informing them! Stop trying!
>WAAHH WHY IS CAPITALISM SO EVIL?!?!!
K.

>pol poster
>recognises an image anyone can use
summerfags are disgusting

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once you have spent 3-4 years on that shithole you can -sometimes- recognise the same people based on the image, their political view, and their style or argument/typing (and their flag). you do realise this website has a fixed population, right?

have sex

I got myself a Brother printer and buy Chinese $2 cartridges that work just as originals. Also, I cover cartridge sensor with ductape so the cartridge works until it's dry and not until sensor notices that ink hits predefined levels and I have to change it halfway through the life cycle. Easy peasy lemon squeezy, fuck those greedy fuckers.

>once you have spent 3-4 years on that shithole you can -sometimes- recognise the same people based on the image, their political view, and their style or argument/typing (and their flag). you do realise this website has a fixed population, right?
>sports-related post #71,798,579, 4channel.org

A flawed system in need of another round of reform (the first occured thanks to the Industrial Revolution era abuses that produced government regulation and socialists, plus the realization you needed living paying customers to buy your shit, so it looks like we're due again). But the alternative has proven so irreparably dysfunctional that it's not a viable option.

This just reminds me when CFLs were new and they lasted ages, then the newer bulbs were made and they only last a fraction of the time.

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So this is what paranoid schizophrenia looks like...

you're genuinely fucking retarded

Schizo-blame posting is the current new meme this month.

>NO YOU CAN'T EDUCATE CHILDREN OR TEACH THEM CRITICAL THINKING THAT'S SOCIALISM!!!!111!!!@!

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Did anyone even read OP's link? Even the OP didn't. The guy who wrote the article breaks down why 100,000 hour bulbs don't actually last 100,000 hours because they turn piss yellow and dim. They probably just relabelled them 30,000, be ause that's how long the old ones last anyway.

The 30,000 hour ones cost like 1/5th as much, too.

Can you not read? Of course the cure is still produced. The report is saying that finding OTHER cures is probably not worth it.

>listen
>not controlled by

Schools and Universities are all designed to waste your time and teach you nonsense.

Honestly planned obsolescence should be punishable by death, but before that we as in we the human race should gas the unironic kikes running the light-bulb / led cartels.

Spoken like a true brainlet

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The absolute state of Muttland.

They are intended to farm tuition, nothing more.

30k hour light bulbs? The last pack I bought were the best ones in the store. They had a 1.1 year warranty.... *based on 3 hours a day use*. So, yeah fuck you, kid.

Ironically there’s a very effective libertarian argument to be made against planned obsolescence & the withholding of cures. It means taking a very... future-oriented, ecocentric stance on humanity, resources, and waste/disposal, but it can be made. And frankly, it’s the most intellectually honest, moderate solution to many of the problems we currently face on this regard. It adheres to the metaphysical ideals of the constitution (winning over conservatives) whilst seeking to increase efficiency & overall well-being, as well as emphasizing ecologically-friendly alternatives for the sake of securing the well being of future generations (winning over.... everyone else). I haven’t fleshed it out seeing as there are so many fucking problems as is so this is vague, but it’s entirely possible.

The truth is that no form of government is great. It's not because of flaws in the system, it's the flaws in its subjects. Humans will always be greedy faggots.

Maybe orangutan's for profit private universities, but public schools and accredited institutions exist to educate people and teach them learning/thinking skills. You may call that brainwashing but that's just because you're trying to cope with your own failings as a student.

Capitalism has nothing to do with government. It's a market theory. Politicians failing to regulate markets is a failure of politics not some market theory.
Capitalism in theory sounds just as good as Communism, but in practice both really only lead to a lot of bullshit. And even so Jow Forums is the wrong place to discuss any of this.

Your post is the height of ignorance and naivety.

>no u stupid
What a great counter argument you made to his remarks. You totally convinced me that he is wrong and you are right and we should all just abolish schools and universities because they don't do anything anyways. Either bring up actual arguments or fuck off to whatever shithole you crawled out from.

Oh my sweet summer child. You need to grow up and see more of the world. Don't make others rich so they may fill your head with their worthless propaganda. This is the only compassionate warning you will ever receive in your short life.

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A completely informed consumer is a unicorn. Most people are dumb as a wet sack of hammers. That's why we need consumer protection laws. When the quicker lads among us notice a business is predating on idiots (and growing extremely powerful in the process), we must tell them to cut the shit, with new laws if necessary.
Somehow along the way here in the states, the Republican party became the party of "if you question business, you're unamerican". With half the government backing predatory enterprise, big corporations have basically had run of the place. At this point stopping the biggest ones won't be easy, but I'm seeing many signs that more moderate Republicans are realizing the mistake since the tables have been turning against them with deplatforming. There may be hope yet.

Not him but I graduated six years ago. Outside my core classes (computer engineering) I had to dodge propaganda constantly, and pretend I thought socialism was a fantastic plan to avoid pissing off professors.

I can guarantee I've seen more of the world than you :^)

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Curious change of subject. Do you feel you have not seen more of the world or do you feel threatened as being seen as someone who hasn't seen more of the world? What is your guarantee then?

You're saying so little with so much.

No one is arguing about how liberal universities are. You still learned computer engineering. Those ancillary classes are intended to round out students who haven't been exposed to other perspectives, but unfortunately they sometimes turn into SJW circlejerks that even the most liberal individuals like myself are disgusted by. However, those still aren't the core experience at college and your engineering learning wasn't hindered by it, so the other user's retardation still stands.

Based schizo posting right there.

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>reversion to flavor of the month meme slur
So, no guarantee then. You may return to Jow Forums now, sweetie.

>why cure a mental illness when you can promote it as normal.
>why cure it when you can have it's sufferers pay doctors to mutliate them, and pay for a never ending stream of hormones and drugs

Bro you're the one who patronizingly said to see the world when your idiocy was exposed. Maybe form a real argument next time if you want people to not be so meanie bo beanie to you.

>Oh my sweet summer child.
go back

So you went to a gas station to buy light bulbs. That doesn't change the fact that 30,000 hour bulbs exist, cost $5, and are widely available. They used to be labeled 100,000 hour bulbs.

Tbf US colleges are a joke. If I go to university to study computer engineering (and spend 30K or more a year to do so) I don't want my time to be wasted with race theory 101.
EU universities are superior in this regard, at least when it comes to bachelors.

I also noticed that product quality dropped tremendously, nowadays you're lucky if it doesn't break one day after the warranty ends.

Even though capitalism is the best system we have, it has some serious built-in flaws, such as planned obsolesence. Planned obsolesence is a waste of resources, labor, capital and the environment. Just so that someone can make a few extra bucks. The free market is perfectly capable of creating perverse incentives and wasting resources.

I've had a GPU break just after warranty expired, and it sure felt like planned obsolesence. The whole thing is fucking bullshit

I can guarantee I've seen more of the world than you :^)

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Good thing your degreelet guarantee is worthless :3c

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>cool daylight

You....you monster!

That's not inherent to Capitalism, just the logical consequence of people throwing shitfits when you even think about saying maybe we should regulate markets and not let them fuck consumers up the arse. So really it's just a consequence of allowing corporate bootlickers to continue to breed.

Incandescent bulbs got worse - they don't last as long as they used to do.

>buy thing
>thing sucks
>dont buy thing again
was that so hard

There's only two words needed to rip your entire shit argument to shreds you boot licking neocon.
Phoebus cartel.

>It legitimately is as long as you have an informed consumer base.

True.

Which is why it doesn't work in fields like health care.
Unless the entire population has a medical degree people will get scammed by for-profit hospitals and insurance companies.

It's for offices.
Keeps you awake.

Capitalism creates the incentives for planned obsolesence. As much as I think that we should try to fight it with regulation, I doubt it will be perfect (the incentive is there, and manufacturers will find workarounds)

>buy another thing
>the other thing sucks too

Capitalism is a shit system but it's the best we have and if we start saying yeah regulating doesn't do anything because companies will always try to get around it we might as well discard any and all laws and close down all jails because people will break them anyways.

>Capitalism is a shit system but it's the best we have and if we start saying yeah regulating doesn't do anything because companies will always try to get around it we might as well discard any and all laws and close down all jails because people will break them anyways
Did you read what I wrote?
>Even though capitalism is the best system we have, it has some serious built-in flaws
>I think that we should try to fight it with regulation

The reason why it's total bullshit is: I fucking paid for those brainwashing classes. I paid through the nose, and less critical peers of mine bought the bullshit hook line and sinker. They'll go on to vote like a retard and speak nonsense on public policy because they didn't actually gain any critical thinking skills. They've not been rounded, they've been hammered into a form.
Like the other user said, this seems to be a very American problem.

Sorry I'm tired and I actually misread what you said just discard that comment.

mr. mao is the one producing the bulbs that have "5 year guarantee, money back" but the company is only in business for 6 months at best

I can tell you with 100% confidence that is an exclusively American problem. Honestly it's astounding how many times you can tell someone here is American because they rage on and on about shit that literally only happens in the US but talks about it as if it was a universal problem from Brazil to China.

don't bother with someone indoctrinated about having a "side"
he's just fighting the corporate overlord's battles

I feel like a very, very obvious case of planned obsolescence is the non-replaceable battery. Shitloads upon shitloads of devices come with built-in batteries that are not in any standard format and are not intended to be replaced by the user. These batteries, of course, degrade with time no matter what you do and as such the device will at one point end up with a useless battery - or even worse a bloated battery which is a dangerous fire/explosion hazard and cannot be easily removed. There's no point in even enumerating everything which uses non-replaceable batteries these days, it goes from the obvious like phones and tablets, to video game controllers, actual laptops, bluetooth speakers and all kinds of other gadgets.

Some devices go even further with this making the whole thing not simply hard/difficult to take apart, but entirely impossible to open up without destroying it.

It's not a uniquely American problem, otherwise Europe wouldn't be overrun with African migrants right now; they never would've fallen for the Jewish "open borders for everyone! Except Israel of course :^)" propaganda.

Humans are fucking retarded and absolutely require protection from predatory businesses or "organizations". Americans, Canadians, Europeans, and obviously the whole of Africa, South America, Middle East, etc, doesn't matter. Most people are literally incapable of critical thinking. Like animal cruelty laws, we need laws protecting the vast collection of simpletons, semi-consciously wandering around, waiting to be taken advantage of.

No, in Europe universities stay on-topic.
If, say, you're studying computer science every single class will be about computers.

Of course when you study sociology or politics you will touch on political subjects.
But then it's your own choice.

Also only the top 10% qualifies for university here.
The other 90% has to go to trade school or start working right after secondary education.
The idea that everybody can go to college/university is also entirely an American thing.

Believe me, I realize this. I first began to understand when I read the AmericanCulturalAssumption page on c2 wiki some ten or more years back.
It's hard to break out of American thinking as an American. Our country feels like an island from the inside. International politics are some far away shit nobody really cares about unless it's making oil prices change. Grasping the fact that other successful cultures exist is difficult.
It's so bad, that just seeing these cultures can inspire disbelief. As an example: A long time back I read a short scifi book, and in this book an alien race had a sort of utopian society. It wasn't really, but it was so far above what I live in that it felt that way. The people had extremely high social trust. The concept of taking advantage of someone was disgusting to them. Communication was easy and reaching agreements quickly and efficiently was the norm. It all felt so comfy, and achievable if we weren't always at each other's throats. I got talking with the author, asking how he made everything fit together so well, how he made the utopia seem real. It turned out he was an expat. He wrote the story from the view of an American discovering a better culture. The aliens were just an idealization of what humanity could be if we let go of narcissism and sociopathy. Obviously this isn't easy, but the US is going in the wrong direction. Here, we encourage and reward both traits. If you want money, you have to look out for number one, and cut throats. It's fucked. We should be teaching how to detect and fight manipulation while building a culture of provable trust. Instead, in the US, we have two sides both saying "Just believe what we say and hate the other side".

You guys don't have any "general education" classes? Didn't know that, interesting. And yeah in America you either get a degree or your application gets thrown out from every single job no matter what.

That said, my point on retardation and lack of critical thinking still stands. Partially-conscious cavepeople make up the bulk of the population anywhere you go. A larger portion in some countries than others, but always a majority.

Whoops, that was meant for

>You guys don't have any "general education" classes?

Unless you mean linear algebra and calculus, then no.

Because 100k and 25k lifespan bulbs caused nothing but consumer complaints and threats of boycott and lawsuit.

The LED itself may last 25k+ but the controller won't, so they were basically false advertising a lifespan their product would never achieve.

If we simply switched to DC for lighting all LED bulbs should last >1 million hours, right?

Only high power application like washing machines and electric ovens require AC.

>go to buy thing
>all things are made to suck

Living in capitalist-based consumerism is like being stuck in a vacuum store with sales clerks who get commissions for each sale and are 1 sale away from a paid vacation.

>*no user serviceable parts inside*

I remember when this phrase started popping up more and more in the 1980s, on electronics.

>no user serviceable parts inside

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Now everything is SMD with a big "fuck off" blob of goo hardened like a rock or look like someone spooged brown/white goo all over it.