Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming >R3 2200G - Light 30-60fps gaming (dGPU optional). >R5 2600 - Good 60fps+ gaming CPU; great value >R5 3600 - midrange; good for all but the absolute highest end GPUs >R7 3700X - Overkill FPS for most GPU/monitor pairings >R9 3900X - Gaming+Streaming/Extreme Productivity.
RAM: >Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks ONLY for a typical dual channel CPU >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 minimum >AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: 1080p >RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost >GTX 1660 - higher fps / more demanding games >RX 5700 - even higher FPS 1440p >RX 5700 - 75-100fps+ in most games. Wait for 5700 XT non-blower cards for higher end >RTX 2080ti - Highest possible FPS, but poor value 2160p (4K) >RTX 2070 Super OC - budget option. Turing performance scales better into 4K than Navi does. >2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive
>Wait for non-blowers if considering the 5700 XT. 5700 blower is fine and comparable to 2060S noise levels, due to being low power.
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Yes, adaptive sync (freesync) is important >A 256GB+ SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >NVMe don't give faster boot/load times than a fast SATA SSD >"Bottleneck checker" sites don't work >Don't use Speccy >See "more" for VRM chart
pcpartpicker.com/list/t8v3q4 rate using mainly for photoshop and gaming already bought GPU and RAM considering dropping the taichi for a cheaper X570 Gaming Plus
Tyler Wright
I have storage, case and power supply
Nathan Stewart
>pcpartpicker.com/list/t8v3q4 That 1660ti is overpriced. You shouldn't pay more than $230 for one. You can get a 5700 for only $55 more than that. You can get a good 1440p@75 monitor for $260. $400 is insane for that unless I'm missing something about color accuracy.
GPU...? Get a CPU that isn't slower than a CPU which costs half as much as that?
Lucas Martin
Now that the dust has settled, are you willing to buy a 9900K for a 3% increase in FPS?
it's too late, I already got the GPU, and I'm pretty sure I don't have to check the receipt to see that the 362 USD I spent about 2 months ago isn't returnable
which of the x570 boards here would be best? x570 phantom gaming, x570 gaming x, x570 gaming plus
Joseph Walker
lol no if Zen 2 came out last year I would have gotten it, got an 8700 at a discount, no complaints though, this thing isn't a housefire. The 9900K is a joke.
Jaxon Gray
I've been using Intel for years, never had a AMD cpu. I'm interested in the 3700x but I see that they don't OC well and I like to OC. Is it a bios issue with the x570 or does Ryzen just not OC well?
I held off on getting a 9900k and got a 3900x. My only complaint is the bios for X570 boards is still kind of wonky.
Elijah Gray
That's stock. We are looking at 10% difference when oc'ed as he says which is well worth it.
Parker Garcia
X570 AORUS PRO can't go wrong with Aorus.
Jace Sanders
Cope just get it, slap on a beastly cooler and rip it what's the point though unless you're an autist who likes to OC for the heck of it? The redpill is that Zen 2 is best used with X470s.
Luis Ward
So will the stock cooler do well enough on the 3600?
Daniel Nelson
>gigabyte Oh user, you card.
Hudson Baker
>$500 9900k >$380 9700k >$70 mobo for a 3700x >ignores the cost of a 3900x build imagine reading what a manipulative lying shill from r/amd has to say. Kys
Joseph White
Yup, the cooler is pretty solid. If you keep it stock then you're fine.
Bentley Perry
>still memeing about Gigabyte boards being shit Aorus is among the best right now, drop this meme right this instant or I will rain hellfire down on you. Fucking muppet.
Nicholas Davis
>$70 mobo for 3700X Yes, both buildzoid and level1tech confirm you can comfortably run your 3700X on even a cheap B350 board. Keep seething, Chaim.
>memeing about Gigabyte boards being shit I'm not memeing, they are shit.
Do not listen to Gigabyte is garbage.
Chase Foster
which of the three then? the first has wifi, and the rest doesn't but this is a relatively easy to fix problem with a USB wifi adapter
Carter Rodriguez
Can you help me to set up a pc for 900€ I already have storage, power supply, case. Thx
Aaron Young
>12% and 14% faster in shitty games >slower in good games no
not fair to say $70 for board though. The good boards are all at least $90. But still cheaper.
8700 was the best of them (before the new vulns). cause yeah, lower power. People doing 250W overclocks for 5% fps gains are retarded. They could buy a new better CPU in a year with how much they blow on electricity.
Post proof And component analysis isn't proof; BIOS matters. As far as I've seen, Gigabyte boards are still overvolting the shit out of CPUs.
Gavin Flores
Why include the cost of a Z390 motherboard for $200, when all the results from the 9900K are without overclocking. Might as well use B360, and a lower end cooler for $20.
If AMD was ahead they wouldn't need to lie and use scummy tactics to shill their CPU
Christian Reed
what are you going to be using it for? what monitor are you planning on getting?
Benjamin Torres
Didn't read, I'm not gonna show 'proof' when all it takes is a simple Google search. Just lol
Adam Sanchez
>Buying a 9900k to pair it with a crappy B360 board with chink shit VRMs that will cause a literal housefire Cope, crappy B360 boards won't even allow the 9900K to reach it's boost clock.
Luke Brown
>when all the results from the 9900K are without overclocking That's a blatant lie. Most boards enable MCE by default and many of those benchmarks are with MCE enabled. MCE is overclocking and the results of all those benchmarks aren't stock.
Thomas Price
Trying to make a pc for streaming and gaming: pcpartpicker.com/list/8D894C this is what I have so far, but any recommendations for video cards? budget is around $600-$700
Logan Davis
COPE AMD SHILL, INTEL 9900K AT 1.2GHZ DESTROYS POOZEN 2 AT 5GHZ UNDER LN2
Easton Jackson
>buying Intel >buying a non K Intel user, what the fuck are you doing? Get a 3600 and save money. The money you save can get you a better gpu.
Jordan Bennett
2080 super
Jeremiah Hall
Silly. Go 3600 with 5700 and 2x8GB DDR4-3600. That should be your starting point.
>streaming >i7-8700 wat? 3600+5700 is the best value but for streaming you probably want at least a 3700X. 3700X+b450 mortar+RAM+5700 should come out to around $850. So a bit above your budget, but not sure what you expected for a streaming PC.
I guess you could technically get away with the 3600 and use GPU video encoding, which saves $130.
Is the Ryzen architecture just so different that every Ryzen OC's like ass? I OC'd the fuck out of my 8350, got that bitch to a stable 5ghz.
Xavier Edwards
Can someone explain to me whats the point of 2070 if rx 5700 xt is about 150$ cheaper. No meme answers please I'm looking at new gpus and wondering what's the catch.
Juan Williams
First time making a pc, so I wouldn't know a "good" price. But that sounds pretty good.Thanks a lot, user.
Dylan Torres
Just bought an RTX 2080 for ~same price as new RTX 2070 Super. Granted prices should go down eventually to 2070 levels but that'll be ages. (AUD).
Grayson Martin
And that 8350 gets destroyed by Ryzen 3 1200 from 2017.
Never said the 8350 was good, but it was an OC champion.
Lucas Howard
And this is on x570. I wonder what a x470 could do.
Aiden Adams
Uh there's no aib until late august user
Hudson Diaz
>14% gains Those are unusually high gains from an OC. What's this from?
I'm happy with my Vega 56, but that 25% more FPS with the 5700 XT wouldn't hurt.
William Torres
People kinda stopped caring about megahurtz race since 2002.
Wyatt Sullivan
jayztwocents found out that overclocking Infinity Fabric procduced gains.
Justin Williams
>but that 25% more FPS with the 5700 XT wouldn't hurt. >plays in 1440p >turns off AA and trash post processing >comfy 144fps on my vega I'm not chaning my waifu for some cheap whore.
>$700 Cheapest X570 board or wait for B550, Ryzen 3600, Radeon 5700, 500GB MX500 SATA SSD, some decent PSU and case.
Daniel Thomas
So ignore temperature and noise comparisons until AIB cards are out. No one should be buying reference cards unless they plan to mod the cooler on it somehow. They're absolute trash blower coolers that have no business being used on any card in 2019, and AMD is retarded for using them still. 5700 and the XT are both good cards that are very well priced. Their coolers are absolute shit right now. Wait for AIB models, and get those. Ignore temperature and noise charts, because they're fucking useless.
A long time. Indications are that DDR5 will be backwards compatible with DDR4. Same 288 pin count. So the 2022 CPUs using DDR5 may be able to use DDR4 as well. DDR5 is a pretty minor upgrade. We already have DDR4 running at super fast speeds with Zen2's improved IMC. Biggest difference in DDR5 is just a bit of power savings.
The AIO is a massive waste of money holy shit. You could get a RX 5700XT and replace the cooler with an Arctic Accelero instead to have better performance for cheaper. The NVMeme is a waste of money too. Just get an MX500, SX8200, or Inland Premium if they sell it there. Use money saved to get the 3700X instead.
Hunter Peterson
>$150 AIO for a CPU that would run just fine with even Intel stock cooler Save the $150.
Jose Long
help me maybe 1440p is fine
Brandon Nelson
Acer V277U 1440p@75 4ms ips $230
Grayson Martinez
Thank you, can I use the stock cooler from a 3600X instead?
Connor Perez
3600X comes with an even better stock cooler
Nathaniel Price
Yes. If you're on a budget upgrading it just isn't worth it. I only upgraded mine on a 1600 to a NH-U14S because I'm a Noctua autist.
