/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Liam Ramirez
Liam Ramirez

Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g

Want help?
State budget & CURRENCY
Post at least some attempt at a parts list
List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing:
Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming
R3 2200G - Light 30-60fps gaming (dGPU optional).
R5 2600 - Good 60fps+ gaming CPU; great value
R5 3600 - midrange; good for all but the absolute highest end GPUs
R7 3700X - Overkill FPS for most GPU/monitor pairings
R9 3900X - Gaming+Streaming/Extreme Productivity.

RAM:
Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks ONLY for a typical dual channel CPU
CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 minimum
AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP

Graphics cards based on current pricing:
1080p
RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost
GTX 1660 - higher fps / more demanding games
RX 5700 - even higher FPS
1440p
RX 5700 - 75-100fps+ in most games. Wait for 5700 XT non-blower cards for higher end
RTX 2080ti - Highest possible FPS, but poor value
2160p (4K)
RTX 2070 Super OC - budget option. Turing performance scales better into 4K than Navi does.
2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive

Wait for non-blowers if considering the 5700 XT. 5700 blower is fine and comparable to 2060S noise levels, due to being low power.

General:
PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
Yes, adaptive sync (freesync) is important
A 256GB+ SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
NVMe don't give faster boot/load times than a fast SATA SSD
"Bottleneck checker" sites don't work
Don't use Speccy
See "more" for VRM chart

more rentry.co/pcbg-more

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pcpartpicker.com/list/Vsb2pG
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rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/1440p-144hz
pcpartpicker.com/list/Zg7Yjy
pcpartpicker.com/list/jzR46s
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youtu.be/raDZ5d_0VU0?t=817
youtube.com/watch?v=Ssuqhyqah2k
ebay.com/itm/254293445085
youtube.com/watch?v=ke3OnFlOUnI
pcpartpicker.com/list/MLTmnH
pcpartpicker.com/list/MYxf6s
uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bdKJYT
pcpartpicker.com/list/n63RZR
newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232752
youtube.com/watch?v=Ud8Bco0dk6Q
youtu.be/EZ3kJ4oCKqo?t=1471
jowforums.com/thread/71832390/technology
youtu.be/unyD3Qdh7Kc?t=369

Parker Nguyen
Parker Nguyen

So Seasonic is objectively the best right?

Kayden Lopez
Kayden Lopez

No. It's not 2011 anymore.

Jeremiah Martinez
Jeremiah Martinez

Nice D.va dakimakura. Where can I get one?

Jordan Bell
Jordan Bell

Is it worth waiting for Zen 3 and AM5? If I buy a AM4 motherboard right now, is it basically going to be obsolete next year?

Zachary Green
Zachary Green

Yes.

Robert Flores
Robert Flores

Zen 3 is 7nm+ AM4

Jaxon Phillips
Jaxon Phillips

Am4 supported THROUGH 2020. DDR5 is not ready yet. If anything, DDR5L would be available next year, with full DDR5 rollout in 2021. If I weren't so lazy I could give links, but I am.

Ryan Cox
Ryan Cox

To the guy with the iGPU problem, I agree with the other user and you should rma both cpu and mb.
You also mentioned paste getting into the pins? That is most likely the cause of your problem.

David Anderson
David Anderson

Why is every panel 27" now?

Caleb Ramirez
Caleb Ramirez

3600mhz cL17 or 4266 cl19 for Ryzen 3900x?
Those are the only2 I can get my hands on

Nathan Garcia
Nathan Garcia

Will the RMA not notice there was paste in the cpu socket if I clean it well?

Anthony Davis
Anthony Davis

1440p is wasted on lower res

Cameron Cook
Cameron Cook

reasking
difference between buying from amd website 5700 vs buying sapphire 5700
is the manufacture different?

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Josiah Butler
Josiah Butler

I'm hoping it is the cause, gonna try to clean it tonight

Jordan Gonzalez
Jordan Gonzalez

still cant buy 3900x anywhere in UK
REEEEEEEEEE

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Bentley Bell
Bentley Bell

You can only hope they don't. It really depends on your luck.
Maybe the tech won't spot it

Michael Rogers
Michael Rogers

4266 ofc

Brayden Williams
Brayden Williams

I am self employed. I edit video and do photo work taken as RAW files from my DSLR. Local Microcenter has the Threadripper 2950X 16c32t for $500. Vs the 3900X 12c24t for $500. Which am I better off with?

Jonathan Lewis
Jonathan Lewis

considering buying a blower
ever

Xavier Walker
Xavier Walker

3900x or just buy an iMac Pro.

Jeremiah Perez
Jeremiah Perez

but I want 1080p

Bentley Wood
Bentley Wood

Today i will remind then

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Adam Long
Adam Long

pcpartpicker.com/list/Vsb2pG

Using mostly for photoshop and occasional gaming
I've already bought the GPU and RAM.
Anything else I should change?

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Aiden Myers
Aiden Myers

That's zen 2+ though.

Angel Edwards
Angel Edwards

Hope the problem gets solved after cleaning it and I don't need to RMA.

It's not a lot of paste tho, look:

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Owen Fisher
Owen Fisher

Comfortably waiting for my 3700x and 2070 super to ship

Ian Ramirez
Ian Ramirez

Why the hell do they have to change sockets every two years and they're not retrocompatible

It's not like the mid end AM5 Ryzen will be bottlenecked by the speeds of the Am4 socket

Owen Green
Owen Green

AMDfags on actual suicide watch

Ayden Price
Ayden Price

Msi gaming edge x570 WiFi
Vs
X470 taichi
Change my mind.

Dylan Peterson
Dylan Peterson

paying a premium to end up LCing it
no thanks

Zachary Martinez
Zachary Martinez

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Gabriel Foster
Gabriel Foster

buy it from france or ireland
it'll probably arrive to your home before your local retailer manages to restock

Caleb Murphy
Caleb Murphy

Come back in a year then

William Taylor
William Taylor

There's no zen2+ you fucking retard.

Samuel Collins
Samuel Collins

would zen4 be the new chipset then?

Kayden Perry
Kayden Perry

Come back in a year.

Xavier Johnson
Xavier Johnson

Did you follow this guide?
youtu.be/EUWVVTY63hc?t=24

Levi Myers
Levi Myers

why do you retards keep removing the pcpartpicker saved configs from the op ?

Lucas Ortiz
Lucas Ortiz

One of us. His 3D waifu is fine too.

Cameron Brown
Cameron Brown

looking for a good gaming monitor for under 600. Ideally 1440p, 144hz, either going to be getting a rtx 2080 or the ti. Is there a "sweet spot" for monitor size? I see a lot of 27", should I stick with that size or go for bigger if its within budget? Also, what about HDR? Worth it?

Angel Collins
Angel Collins

bought a Creative x-fi titanium ages ago
still soldiers on like a trooper
good card

Ethan Murphy
Ethan Murphy

Burh. Get a 5700 XT. RT and DLSS is a meme.
jowforums.com/thread/71828594/technology

Wyatt Cox
Wyatt Cox

Alternatively recommend a board without wifi but with adaptive RGB in the same price category, x570 only.

Dominic Collins
Dominic Collins

Lmao

Cooper Parker
Cooper Parker

350 for the card, if you're lucky
250 for the kit
barely beating a 500 dollar card

John Williams
John Williams

JUST GOT A 3900X ON NEWEGG
WOOOOOO

Hunter Hill
Hunter Hill

Be the op if u want a thread with that gay link in it

Yeah rgb is so much more useful and important

Nathaniel Ramirez
Nathaniel Ramirez

Tfw bought a 2200g and now the 3200g is just more 12eur

Ayden Evans
Ayden Evans

I already have fans for it, and in that budget tier is mostly a baseling feature. I shouldn't have mentioned it because most likely it's there. But feel free to recommend a mobo, on par with those two in a similar price range. I want it for a 3700x, and the built in wifi is very attractive.

Robert Brooks
Robert Brooks

i'm upgrading from a nvidia gt 540 and would like to use it this summer before being cucked by work in september
is the
wait for nitro+
really worth cucking myself this summer?
legit question

Wyatt Butler
Wyatt Butler

still available if anyone wants one

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Joseph Robinson
Joseph Robinson

Built my PC and started playing yesterday. My friends can hear all my YouTube and game noises when I'm discording with them. I'm using a mic splitter with earphones, do you guys have any ideas what's wrong?

Andrew Gray
Andrew Gray

pcpartpicker.com/list/WZzvgw

Rate please. Coming from an old Sandy era 6c12t Xeon with 16GB RAM and Nvidia Quadro FX5800. I have so much work on my plate lately that my encoding times and literally preventing me from finishing more work (and thus getting paid). I don't know what CPU cooler would be good either. Is stock enough to handle a 3900X under 100% load with PBO in full swing for literal days on end?

Zachary Howard
Zachary Howard

Enjoy your fps drops worse than a 3700 lmao

Henry Powell
Henry Powell

That ram looks absurdly expensive, isn't it just 3200 cl16?

Xavier Brown
Xavier Brown

Hello and Welcome to Cuck Deals!

Carter Foster
Carter Foster

Still have only $28.
My i7 2700k system isn't going to sell for enough to buy one, either.

Evan Young
Evan Young

How you're using the splitter

Tyler Morris
Tyler Morris

no, that's the c14 b-die kit

John Hughes
John Hughes

Ah, guess I googled poorly

Jaxson Brown
Jaxson Brown

Get your ears checked and put the volume down a bit

Chase Barnes
Chase Barnes

only case to wait right now is if you're looking to buy a 2080S, the mid range cards are out and benchmarked.

Matthew Long
Matthew Long

Are your headphones open back?
Dial up the slide on discord mic settings

Easton Moore
Easton Moore

Like an echo or like full blown relay? Maybe it's somehow using stereo mix

Isaac Peterson
Isaac Peterson

if you only need 32gb ram, you'd be better off getting 4 8gb sticks that are single rank instead of 2 sticks that are dual rank

Ian Ortiz
Ian Ortiz

push to talk you nigger

Aiden Bailey
Aiden Bailey

aaaand it's gone
if you missed it, better luck tomorrow!

Luke Smith
Luke Smith

not interested in nvidia lower price/perf

Jose Jenkins
Jose Jenkins

What does single rank and dual rank mean

Aaron Howard
Aaron Howard

voice activation with properly calibrated treshold and headphones > push to talk savagery

Eli Rodriguez
Eli Rodriguez

after watching some 5700/XT reviews i came across someone mentioning sapphire vega 56es for 250€ (in germany) with someone else adding that flashing those to v64 bioses means getting close to 2070 performance (of course excluding rtx memes).
im currently running a 4690 and a r9 280x, would that v56 be reasonable with this chip (and potentially a newer system later down the line, with amd being fine wine and all that), maybe even without the flashing (which has people decidedly being undecided on wether its worth it)?

Nathaniel Adams
Nathaniel Adams

Non-blower 5700 XT and 2070 Super fucking when?

Mason Green
Mason Green

single rank, one set of memory chips
dual rank, two single ranks on one stick of ram, takes additional processing time to access memory because it has to calculate which rank to access

Colton Gonzalez
Colton Gonzalez

S2716dg

Jason Wright
Jason Wright

DLSS may be a meme, but the verdict isnt out yet on RT

Liam Green
Liam Green

It was discussed here as well, and you need the pulse variant for some reason which is a bit more expensive than others.

Brandon Miller
Brandon Miller

i thought i'd have to spend over 2k for high end gaming but looks like it cane be done for less than 1500

Grayson Williams
Grayson Williams

My PC has two Jack's and I use a splitter to so my earphones can enter both jacks
Open back?
No it isn't using stereo mix

Aiden Watson
Aiden Watson

How much of a performance loss would I get running 4 sticks of dual rank RAM? Money really isn't an issue as is and I wouldn't mind just buying 4x16GB of CL14 3200MHz now. I'm RAM starved on my current machine when working and it's a shitty feeling.

Oliver Sanders
Oliver Sanders

Nixeus edg27s v2 400 ameridollars

Ryder Stewart
Ryder Stewart

well, i explicitly found the pulse at mindfactory for 250 (which had me surprised as well)

Ayden Nelson
Ayden Nelson

What do you do that you need equipment this powerful?

Ryan Martin
Ryan Martin

Lucky, around here that costs more. Although having a polaris card, I won't upgrade soon since I would need a new monitor as well.

Luke Perez
Luke Perez

be me
waitfag for 10 years
timetospend.jpg
buy vega 64 nitro+ with 2600X
5700xt and 3600x come out
should i return them and wait for AIB 5700xt?

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Adrian Perry
Adrian Perry

For a 3900X, is DDR4 3200 CL15 worth the extra $75 versus a pair of 3200 CL16?

Liam Walker
Liam Walker

no

Justin Allen
Justin Allen

Nah 600$ means he should go ips

Eli Ortiz
Eli Ortiz

rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/1440p-144hz
No idea how good it is but it might be useful

Michael Cook
Michael Cook

i checked some other places and the card is usually around 300 instead, so would this be a good buy in general with thinking about flashing memes later?

Benjamin Miller
Benjamin Miller

if you need the capacity then that's all you can do
I also got 2 sets of 2x16gb for my build
but to answer your question, I haven't seen a benchmark yet comparing single and dual rank with new ryzen and x570 so I'd just be guessing

Jose Davis
Jose Davis

go for 3600

Levi Wright
Levi Wright

Depends on how much you paid for Vega. If more or less as much as XT costs, consider returning your stuff. Or stop thinking about it and be happy.

Aiden Nguyen
Aiden Nguyen

Take a whole shit load of pictures at 10K x 10k. 4k videos, slo-mo shots, you name it. Started with family photos, weddings and parties but recently discovered a gold mine for parents who want video of their high school kid playing sports to send to their prospective college in hopes of a scholarship. Word travels, and now I have like 30 people who all want this sort of stuff. The 3900X and dual 2080Ti's sl DRASTICALLY cut down on my rendering and encoding times. Less time crunching means more jobs done means more money made.

Eli Garcia
Eli Garcia

Can I drop any ddr4 into an amb system even if the memory box doesnt have an (((amd apporved))) sticker?

Hudson White
Hudson White

430 euros
cheapest i found incl shipping and tax

Samuel Scott
Samuel Scott

bought the cheapest b450m mobo
It supports up to 3900x and lets me ajust timings for each ram channel separately
bought the cheapest 2x8 3000 ram
can get 3400c16, probably 3600c17 too if it wasn't for the imc
bought the cheapest Apu
can do 4ghz with stock voltage or 3.85ghz with 1.26v, and runs BF4 on Ultra 60+ fps without a gpu
Rich snobs BTFO'd

Josiah Gray
Josiah Gray

I guess it is but look up the whole thing because I didn't pay too much attention to it when others mentioned.

Ayden Kelly
Ayden Kelly

are any of the new gpus released in the $150 bracket? i'm going to be buying a gpu in the month or so

Adam Edwards
Adam Edwards

At least swap out CPUs. You did overpay for the GPU, so if you can bear having an unusable system for a couple months because you don't have a display out, return it as well.
What I'd do is buy a reference XT and install a Morpheus on it to not have to wait, but you're probably not into that.

John James
John James

if the motherboard is AM4 then yes, is not like you can drop a ddr3 stick in a ddr4 socket or the other way around they are made different

Samuel Morgan
Samuel Morgan

The $150 bracket no longer exists. Your entry ticket is $300 now.

Jonathan Rivera
Jonathan Rivera

What I'd do is buy a reference XT and install a Morpheus on it to not have to wait,
am i getting cucked price wise compared to nitro+?
especially if they go for a custom PCB with better VRM which may prevent me from OCing better

Jonathan Nelson
Jonathan Nelson

Probably, the 5700 and 5700 XT both outperform the 56 by a fair amount. the CPU is alright. If you're living in Germany, cheapest is 370, and cheapest 5700 XT is 420 (lol), although that requires modification.

Christian Smith
Christian Smith

Ofc

Isaac Cox
Isaac Cox

Thought they were cheaper than that now? In the UK I can pick one of these up for about £380 so assumed $400

Ethan Reyes
Ethan Reyes

I've been on Nvidia gpus for a long while but thinking of getting the rx5700.
Are the fine wine memes true? Will it make superior performance gains as amd updates the drivers compared to Nvidia? (And I'm talking about current gen, not legacy support which can be notoriously sketchy from nvidias side)

Jonathan Perry
Jonathan Perry

RX cards still. A 580 should be about that price and will still handle anything you throw at it

John Moore
John Moore

AMD reference PCBs are typically excellent. And non-premium AIB models won't have a much better one if at all. Whether or not overclocking is 100% unlocked without needing an AIB BIOS is unknown right now, so there's that.
But really, just return your card and wait if you can.

Adam Hughes
Adam Hughes

time machine to 2019
games still look bad on minimum settings

Chase Lopez
Chase Lopez

Not him, but just to clarify: I think the reason you have to look for the Pulse variants is because those most likely use Samsung HBM memory, which only some of the 56s have, and is crucial for flashing the 64 bios. I personally have a Vega 56 with a 64 bios, and if it wasn't for the HBM defect my card has, I would be very pleased with the performance.
If I was in your shoes, I would wait to see how the non-blower 5700/XTs are priced, and then make a decision. Those Vegas are only getting cheaper, if you end up going that route.

Jason Ward
Jason Ward

the 5700 and 5700 XT both outperform the 56 by a fair amount.
i got a vega 64 not 56
cheapest 5700 XT is 420 (lol), although that requires modification.
heard the blower ain't enough to cool the XT and i'm not sure if it's worth changing the cooler if i end up paying more than custom 5700XT
btw i'm from france

Josiah Peterson
Josiah Peterson

Anyone have experience bumping the GSKILL F4-3000C14D-16GVK's up to 3200?

Last time I tried just bumping them up to that the system IRQ_LESS_THAN_EQUAL'D after a few minutes. Maybe needs 1.4v instead of the default 1.35?

Bentley Davis
Bentley Davis

would a 2600x bottleneck a 5700?

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Luis Martinez
Luis Martinez

ok. what about the $200 bracket? what is the dominant card there? I want to know what to keep an eye on in case it goes on sale on prime day

Elijah Campbell
Elijah Campbell

why would you want a CPU bottleneck you dumb clown

Tyler Murphy
Tyler Murphy

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Evan Nguyen
Evan Nguyen

56 oced is literally 64

Blake Reyes
Blake Reyes

Maybe needs 1.4v instead of the default 1.35?
yeah, and you can go up to 1.45v without issue

Tyler Davis
Tyler Davis

you're good on 1440p
maybe slightly on 1080p

Andrew Mitchell
Andrew Mitchell

you didn't answer my question
I sure hope not

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Camden Hughes
Camden Hughes

i got a vega 64 not 56
The extra CUs don't really matter in gaming workloads. 56 performs virtually just as well.
heard the blower ain't enough to cool the XT and i'm not sure if it's worth changing the cooler if i end up paying more than custom 5700XT
Depends on whether or not you care about cooler reusability and generally having an overkill cooling solution instead of a slightly audible one. You do get what you pay for.

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Angel Cooper
Angel Cooper

i asked for help on a build a few months ago and an user gave me this, i'll mainly be using it for light gaming and programming with some emulation so i don't need it to be super powerful but i want it to be able to handle most games if i feel like playing them pcpartpicker.com/list/Zg7Yjy
i'm trying to keep it under $750 USD so i'm reusing my current hard drives, 256GB SSD and 2TB HDD, and was going to use the stock cooler but i'm starting to rethink the latter, are there any parts i can swap out with something better and still keep it in the same price range? i'm going to order all of the parts on prime day but i have no idea if any discounts are going to be offered
i'm also getting a viotek GFT27DB for the monitor (mainly just want a new monitor for a higher refresh rate and resolution, i don't plan on gaming in 1440p at the moment but i might upgrade in the future) but i'm keeping it separate from the build

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Robert Gonzalez
Robert Gonzalez

Not him, but the next step I would get over the 580 is either a vega 56 or a 1660ti. Don't know about prices. Anything between is not a significant upgrade.

Christian Perry
Christian Perry

that ghetto rig
lol
Depends on whether or not you care about cooler reusability and generally having an overkill cooling solution instead of a slightly audible one. You do get what you pay for.
eh, i waited 10 years, i think i can manage 1 extra month
granted sapphire doesn't delay their nitro+

Ayden Mitchell
Ayden Mitchell

reminder: Memory and IF tuning bring more performance than just an all-core overclock.

Nathaniel King
Nathaniel King

He can go 1.5v if there's a fan blowing direct into the rams

Blake Peterson
Blake Peterson

emulation could benefit from a better cpu so maybe you want to go with the 3600 instead but you would need to an msi board instead to upgrade the bios without an older ryzen chip, you can use the b450 mortar or tomahawk

Jace Martin
Jace Martin

Overclock everything, faggot. Useless post.

Alexander Rogers
Alexander Rogers

Does the 3200g perform $13,50 better than the 2200G?
Pulling the trigger today.

Kevin Rodriguez
Kevin Rodriguez

how much are we talking for 1080?
I mostly play what people refer to as esport titles so I'm sorta just looking for at least 150 fps to suit my monitor. Also I don't really play AAA titles but if I did, I should still be able to pull at least 70 fps at 1080 yeah?

Kayden Roberts
Kayden Roberts

might as well.

Andrew Reyes
Andrew Reyes

Which PSU and watts for a standard Ryzen 3600x + Vega 64 build with room for upgrading to an new card in the future?

Matthew Campbell
Matthew Campbell

Not at all.

Wyatt Reed
Wyatt Reed

dont go for 64 unless you can get some really good deal on it.

John Collins
John Collins

dunno exactly, maybe you'll from 170 to 150 fps than if you had a say 3600 or 3600x

Jose Edwards
Jose Edwards

i'm only planning on doing occasional android/DS/GBA emulation, other than for emulation, is the rest of the build ok? i'm looking at cpu coolers but i don't know which one to pick so if you have any advice on one of those that would be pretty helpful

Jeremiah Sanchez
Jeremiah Sanchez

What's the difference between motherboard Firmware and BIOS? For some reason my motherboard has pic related on its support page.

Motherboard is the Asus Pro WS-X570 Ace.

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Henry Flores
Henry Flores

am i well future proofed for the next 10-15 years?
pcpartpicker.com/list/jzR46s

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Xavier Williams
Xavier Williams

Do the 3000 igpus perform the same as the 2000s at the same clock

James Cruz
James Cruz

Also I don't really play AAA titles but if I did, I should still be able to pull at least 70 fps at 1080 yeah?
yeah easily

Jaxson James
Jaxson James

Not him but would the 3600 be good enough for most emulation or would there be a benefit from getting the 3700x instead?

Nathan Ward
Nathan Ward

No.

Adrian Murphy
Adrian Murphy

They are the same GPU cores. Only the CPU got changed. However the 3400G iGPU is clocked 150MHz higher than the 2400G. Not to mention the memory improvements and IPC gain that 7nm has brought

Andrew Brown
Andrew Brown

That just looks like you took the most expensive shit you could find and tossed it in a build sheet. Expensive doesn't mean good.

David Morris
David Morris

LMAO
tf is this shit? trying to get 50 people to play on the same tower?

Andrew Rodriguez
Andrew Rodriguez

Serious talk
i hear a lot of "9900K still beats 3900X on single core and gives better fps for AAA gayming"
how true is it?
larpers and fanboys need not apply

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Luis White
Luis White

For what should i upgrade my gtx 970? I want to do GPU passtrough so nvidia is out. rx 580?

Asher Diaz
Asher Diaz

I've got an X570 Motherboard and a 3700X. Do both PSU power cables need to be connected for the CPU power?

I am getting a Platinum EVGA P2 650W PSU which is supposed to be excellent, but it doesn't have the secondary 4 pin plug for CPU power. Am I missing out on much?

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Angel Davis
Angel Davis

On the absolute top end, the 9900k outperforms the 3900X for games yes. Some games heavily favor Intel more than AMD so Intel leads by 15+ fps. In others it's as close as 2 fps or AMD winning. Most of the losses are at 1080p. Of course as you place more strain on the GPU, you get more even performance.

t. Owner of an R7-3700X paired with 2080Ti and was on the fence about the 9900k.

Evan Williams
Evan Williams

its a case of 2% better for 20% higher price

Hunter Martinez
Hunter Martinez

bottleneck in AAA gaming on highest settings is gpu

Bentley Williams
Bentley Williams

That's for doing shit like LN2 overclocking. You only need the 8 pin to boot and run normally.

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Brayden Garcia
Brayden Garcia

it does, yes
it's not a massive advantage, but it's not negligible either
you can go with either CPU and you'll be fine, don't stress about it

Caleb Williams
Caleb Williams

Yes.
Take note that theres ALWAYS a bottleneck, so you want your gpu to be one

Adam Phillips
Adam Phillips

it depends on the games that you are playing but if you want another cooler then something in the $30 price range should be pretty good, the cooler master hyper 212 black or be quiet pure rock are good choices and much better than the stock cooler
no idea but if i had to take a guess i would say that the 3700x is overkill for emulation, most people still use older intel chips with 4 cores for emulation and do just fine

Xavier Turner
Xavier Turner

how come the diff in fps then?
ok glad to hear that AMD still dominates the bang for bucks bracket

Justin Russell
Justin Russell

What are the chances of a small Navi GPU like a 5500X?

Cooper Garcia
Cooper Garcia

AMD just announced 5700 and 5700XT
do they plan some new GPU in the next few months (like they plan 3950X for sept) or is this it?

Chase Edwards
Chase Edwards

NZXT Kraken X62
Ballistix Sport LT 16 Go (2 x 8 Go) DDR4 3200 MHz CL16 SR
Seagate BarraCuda 4 To (ST4000DM004)
Corsair RM750x 80PLUS Gold
Corsair Crystal 570X RGB
MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI
ASUS GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER ROG-STRIX-RTX2070S-A8G-GAMING
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Wraith Prism LED RGB (3.6 GHz / 4.4 GHz)
Crucial MX500 1 To

With which GPU should I replace the current one in this build ? Can upgrade the CPU if needed too. Anything else worth noting ? Will build it in 2 weeks mainly for 1440p gaming, don't know what it will looks like so I'm open to advice for everything perfomance/looks wise. Thanks for the help.

Connor Sullivan
Connor Sullivan

Anyone have a good case reccomendation?
I need something with decent airflow/space that's under 19.5"in height and with the power button on the front so it will fit in the slot under my desk.

Christian Wilson
Christian Wilson

I hope they bring out something good to fight with the GTX 1650/1660

Ian Cox
Ian Cox

Get a cheap 1080, get a WD HDD and an 860 Evo SSD

Asher Carter
Asher Carter

get a ryzen they said
it will give a smoother experience they said
no stuttering, suttering is only for intel they said
youtu.be/raDZ5d_0VU0?t=639

Joseph Perry
Joseph Perry

how does ryzen 2600 oc'd + rx 590 sound with seasonic s12 ii 520w?

John Rogers
John Rogers

Meshify.

Luis Lewis
Luis Lewis

My ryzen 2700 can only do 4050mhz at 1.425 volts. Did I get a shot chip?

Wyatt Adams
Wyatt Adams

nothing wrong with the 2070 super lol
its on par/ slightly better than a 1080ti
beats the 5700xt in most situations as well
the only reason to change it would be for price, and in that case you'd want the 5700xt, but if you're building in 2 weeks you'd have to buy a blower model 5700xt which will probably suck DICK for a card with such a high TDP

Adrian Peterson
Adrian Peterson

you sure will with that voltage

Josiah Bailey
Josiah Bailey

How long until we get sale prices for R9s? I'm a miserly bastard and don't want to pay full MSRP.

Evan Roberts
Evan Roberts

Games are not simply graphics on a screen; no game executes exclusively on gpu. The CPU is still needed for stuff like physics, processing AI scripts and interactions and all of this is tied to execute by the frame . If one of these calculations is taking too long, the next frame is skipped and thus FPS drops.
Many of these calculations are coded to be done in a single execution pipeline (single thread) and thus the 9900k and cpus with very high base clock speeds excel at these tasks.

Jaxson Gonzalez
Jaxson Gonzalez

Dell S2719DM
y/n
how relevant is adaptive sync at 60hz?

Nathaniel Morris
Nathaniel Morris

Do i want to pay up to 1660ti or should i just take 1660? 1080//60

Justin Smith
Justin Smith

1.35 max lad.
You bought a low bin chip on purpose you surely can't expect much.

Christian Wilson
Christian Wilson

It stays under 90 degrees C with that voltage though, You think I should return it?

Nicholas Edwards
Nicholas Edwards

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Jacob Nelson
Jacob Nelson

in most cases the 1660 will be enough but if you want to make sure you're good in ALL cases go with the Ti
they're both good cards that should suit your needs assuming you have a processor to compliment it

Christopher Smith
Christopher Smith

860 Evo SSD
isnt the current one better ? Or are Samsung evo SSD the best I can get ? thanks. Also I dont wanna downgrade the GPU, I want my build to last for a few years

Nathaniel Torres
Nathaniel Torres

they tried it on a intel and no stuttering
but stutters on a ryzen
no it's not the cpus fault!
lol youtu.be/raDZ5d_0VU0?t=817

Chase Martin
Chase Martin

I scored my 2600 at 3.9ghz 1.3v (hwinfo reads peaks of 1.32 for some reason).
I can hit 4ghz only on 1.4v but going over 1.35v is going to bite you in the ass

William Johnson
William Johnson

gotcha
thanks

Isaac Clark
Isaac Clark

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Luis Jackson
Luis Jackson

Would a GT 1030 for €40-50 be OK for poverty-tier gaming? I need to get games such as Rising Storm 2 at decent fps with my c. 2012 system.

Bentley Davis
Bentley Davis

fucking robberclobber

James Harris
James Harris

Makes 0 difference for gaymes, just get the 860 evo lol

Grayson Morris
Grayson Morris

sent ;)

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Luis Ross
Luis Ross

Why not get a used, much better card lol
you'll hate yourself for getting it, performance will be shit
at least aim for a 1060 or an rx 570

Gabriel Baker
Gabriel Baker

You know that has nothing to do with Ryzen and instead the multiplayer being jank as fuck on that port? People with intel cpus have also had stuttering problems.

Adam King
Adam King

youtube.com/watch?v=Ssuqhyqah2k
how will intcels compete?

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Jordan Anderson
Jordan Anderson

tell me your secret man, how do you not kill yourself? If I was in your shoes and having made such a gigantic blunder as to "upgrade" to the worst possible combination at a terrible price, I would certainly feel devastated

William Adams
William Adams

You should keep it under 80C though. Also, chip damage is sure above 1.4v

Connor White
Connor White

ebay.com/itm/254293445085
COP OR NAH

Justin Young
Justin Young

looking at comments section of Ryzen 3000 series vs Intel's current line
Holy shit dawgs, the intel fanboy rage is intense. They're corporations not your friends, why are they this butthurt AMD has had their first good release in 15 years?

Hudson James
Hudson James

Nah
youtube.com/watch?v=ke3OnFlOUnI

Noah Morales
Noah Morales

RX 570s are good value here in my country (€90-100) but that's still double the price of a GT 1030.

Austin Gutierrez
Austin Gutierrez

I already have a 3600, I have 3 builds, 2 are intel
I'm probably gonna buy this, a 9600k for $200 is fucking sick

Jaxson Richardson
Jaxson Richardson

the things amd gpus owners need to do lol

Mason Walker
Mason Walker

Get used doofus

Owen Lee
Owen Lee

lol k enjoy pissing away money retard

Thomas Bennett
Thomas Bennett

Factor in the doubling of your electric bill

Ryder Watson
Ryder Watson

it's a mystery
desu I don't understand the race to 7nm because
higher density leads to higher concentration of heat.
I would like to see it offset by not trying to cram as much CPU into so little of space...something about the lithography needs to be inherently designed to improve the thermodynamics.
7nm GPU on the other hand sounds great!
if you already have an empty motherboard, otherwise why bother? you can only use one PC at a time.

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Austin Ramirez
Austin Ramirez

why are they this butthurt AMD has had their first good release in 15 years?
because they know they have nothing up their sleeve to counter

Luis Fisher
Luis Fisher

Those are used prices I am quoting, senpai.

Brayden Butler
Brayden Butler

EGS is actively making games worse
wew

Dylan Cook
Dylan Cook

If it's absolute low power using then for sure, for laptops it will be great, not sure if they want to completely ditch the polaris for low end cards though.

Joshua Walker
Joshua Walker

pcpartpicker.com/list/MLTmnH

Please rate.

Jace Taylor
Jace Taylor

why so upset
you can only use one PC at a time.
you'd be surprised
I have bitcoin mining on one, CFD sims and video rendering on the other and the third for personal/gaming use

Adam Foster
Adam Foster

Time to save up

Brody Fisher
Brody Fisher

Get a 3600x and an 550w PSU.

Oliver Sullivan
Oliver Sullivan

bitcoin mining
lol retard confirmed, literally throwing away money

Brody Howard
Brody Howard

But isnt a 3700x more future-proof?

Wyatt Bennett
Wyatt Bennett

either go 3600 with CPU or get a better tiered GPU
you're overspending for the CPU

Zachary Carter
Zachary Carter

hmmm who do I believe, random youtube comments made by bots or the actual reviewers, hard choice

Justin Richardson
Justin Richardson

but I've only made profit from doing it?
I seriously don't get why you're so upset about me wanting to seize a good deal

Jacob Scott
Jacob Scott

But like he said, it's not their sleeve. Why should they need to counter anything? Just because you bought a good product made by a brand doesn't mean you owe them your support when a better product comes out from somebody else.

Grayson Hill
Grayson Hill

i am a cheapo and i need both hdmi and dvi
is Gainward GeForce GTX 1660 Ghost alright?

Logan Wilson
Logan Wilson

costs more than an objectively superior CPU
good deal
Right okay lol

Parker Morris
Parker Morris

literally throwing money at the CIA/shadow government
ftfy
youtube comments
they're complaining that a newly released ps3 port doesn't run good on a 2 years old CPU without any sort of troubleshooting, in the present month
any explanation with any depth would be more adequate than the harping of those clowns.

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Matthew Cook
Matthew Cook

Unless you have ASICS or run completely on solar the electrical cost is ridiculous.

Oliver James
Oliver James

If you need it, then go for it. Same for the PSU. That rig is imbalanced though, in this form it can have a weaker psu and cpu.

Wyatt Gomez
Wyatt Gomez

fanboyism is a hell of a drug

Jace Thomas
Jace Thomas

it's pointless since the GPU is already bottlenecking you
by the time you upgrade that GPU the CPU will be way obsolete

Jordan Fisher
Jordan Fisher

Here's the thing, I had it at 4.1 ghz and it was fine but cinebench r20 would make my system go black, so I went for 4050mhz, it seems cinebench r20 is stressing my cpu more then prime95 is because I can run 4.1ghz fine on prime95

Ayden Gray
Ayden Gray

Final ask here Bois. About to bust a move. Anything you'd change? The only thing I'm adding is getting a 2nd 32GB B-die kit of RAM.

Levi Brooks
Levi Brooks

Would 32GB 3200 16v be good for Ryzen? What if I decide to go for the 9900k?

Jackson Gray
Jackson Gray

I'm not that same guy, I'm talking about bitcoin genius. You can't be making profit unless you have ASICs or you pay nothing for electricity.

Anthony Reyes
Anthony Reyes

what do you mean

Ryder Cox
Ryder Cox

Just a Reminder To Report Anyone That Is Recommending Intel. They Are Purposely Trying To Screw Over Honest People.

Logan Diaz
Logan Diaz

Don't use Speccy
what's better alternative?

Tyler James
Tyler James

b-die isn't nearly as relevent anymore.

What you actually want to do is go on the vendor website and find the QVL memory list for that motherboard, and make sure your ram is on it.

Connor Long
Connor Long

pcpartpicker.com/list/MYxf6s

Would you guys consider this a better set up overall?

Cooper Williams
Cooper Williams

How do I overclock the infinity fabric

Does raising the base clock make the IMC tolerate faster ram?

I can't bear being stuck at 3400mhz

Dominic Roberts
Dominic Roberts

CPU-z's Valid or HWInfo

Jose Miller
Jose Miller

overclocking the base clock
dont overclock if you dont know how to overclock

Benjamin Wood
Benjamin Wood

yeah, far more balanced
some people will tell you wait for custom GPU because muh blower
it's up to you if you can wait till mid august or need it now

Jordan Diaz
Jordan Diaz

IF and RAM speed are linked. The IF will run at the same speed as your RAM up to 3733MHz. Anything beyond that, the IF defaults to 2:1 and you'll get 50% of your RAM speed

Isaiah Sanders
Isaiah Sanders

That's why you don't only use p95 to test stability. You also need at least a few hours of OCCT and AIDA64 stress test. And still, DO NOT go above 1.35v regardless of temps.

Ayden Lewis
Ayden Lewis

I've built my first PC in something like 8 years. I've attached just the CPU, RAM and cooler to the mobo. The mobo is powered by a 24-pin connector, and I've plugged in an 8-pin CPU connector too.

When I try to start the machine, nothing really happens. The power LED on the front turns on, and after about 3 seconds it goes out, the LED on the CPU cooler flashes briefly, and the chassis fan turns for a second. Then the whole process repeats.

Any ideas? I don't want to think I've fried the mobo

Josiah Phillips
Josiah Phillips

Yeah I heard about the blowers, but i thought the temps are shitty on 5700 XT and the regular 5700 doesnt have such issues, well at least not to that extent.

Oliver Walker
Oliver Walker

A 1060 6gb is going to be a bottleneck for my 3700x CPU ?

Adam Baker
Adam Baker

isn't a 1070 good enough? why should i buy a 1660ti for $300 when I could pay $200 for the same performance?

Robert Evans
Robert Evans

The IF will run at the same speed as your RAM up to 3733MHz
That's what AMD said in their slides but it's completely false. 3600 (1800 fclk) is the limit. Some chips can manage 3666 1:1, anything higher won't even post.

Aiden Brown
Aiden Brown

Do you guys have liquid nitrogen ready for your 16 core housefire?

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Jaxon Bell
Jaxon Bell

youtube comments
why do amd shills insist youtube comments are best source of truth? Is it because they got lots of bots shilling in them?

Luis Cox
Luis Cox

9900KFC runs at 100 with 160$ cooler

Cooper Johnson
Cooper Johnson

Nobody is denying Zen2 is hot as fuck. Those 9900K and 8700K temps are fairytale shit though.

Carson Moore
Carson Moore

unfortunately i haven't seen much about the 5700 temps
but yeah 5700xt with blower is a poor choice

Ayden Sullivan
Ayden Sullivan

yes

Nathaniel Sullivan
Nathaniel Sullivan

uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bdKJYT
I'm looking at building a new PC in a few months as my current one is getting on in age. I want to go for something roughly like the one I've listed, but I'm not completely sure on the GPU and the CPU. Is the power difference between the 3600 and 3600x worth the extra cash if I'm just playing games? And would I be better off with a 580 instead of a 590 and save a few pence?

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Isaac Gonzalez
Isaac Gonzalez

no

Anthony Martin
Anthony Martin

Wdym, I got stable cpu ram and gpu overclocks, but I can't get the ram stable above 3400 even with cl20.

Stock voltage for Ryzen is 1.4v bro

Mine is giving a 3400mhz roof

Levi Hernandez
Levi Hernandez

The 590 won't give you any leap in performance, i.e. you can play at 100hz on 1080p, but you can get only 50 on 1440p, the 590 will make that 55 or something.

Jaxson Brooks
Jaxson Brooks

Just think the mobo fried itself then

Austin Scott
Austin Scott

or maybe just get an aio liquid cooler?
79c isn't optimal for longevity but its not the end of the world for the once in a blue moon you push that for longer than a minute or two
and if you are constantly at full load you should have a high end cooler/aio anyway

Christian Cox
Christian Cox

An used Rx570 is going for the price of a new ryzen 1600.

Is there a GPU cheaper than the 570 that's still an upgrade from integrated Vega?

Isaiah Parker
Isaiah Parker

Remember when AMDrones bragged about getting a cooler included with the CPU? Now they need to buy aio liquid coolers anyway.

Jacob Hughes
Jacob Hughes

Try resetting the bios

Gavin Hughes
Gavin Hughes

Due to physical memory and some other things, the 1050, 560, even 970, 380, and some other older cards are upgrades.

Alexander Ortiz
Alexander Ortiz

71831637
Alright, cheers lad. I do have a [email protected] screen, but I honestly do more on my secondary bloody 1200x1600 screen that's only 60hz, so if it's not a massive leap getting a 580 instead will be a solid plan. Between that and going for a 3600 instead of the 3600x that I guess is on about, I'm saving a decent bit of cash.

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Jose Young
Jose Young

My games aren't using all 2gb vram except for gta

Aiden Gomez
Aiden Gomez

An air duster usually takes enough of it out so it isn’t noticeable. Just don’t breathe near it.

Christopher Lee
Christopher Lee

Friendly reminder that only a TV-sized™ monitor is good enough

Aaron Walker
Aaron Walker

But vram is still faster. It might not be a huge difference, but maybe look up benchmarks. Although basically nothing is really worth it below the 570, price/performance wise.

Jeremiah Edwards
Jeremiah Edwards

Stock voltage for Ryzen is 1.4v bro
Stop being retarded. It's long been established that 1.35v is the safe limit for long term OC voltage on 2nd gen Ryzen.
For 3rd gen it's 1.325v. These are facts, stock behaviour has nothing to do with it as they are momentary voltages on single barely loaded cores.

Samuel Scott
Samuel Scott

Where do you guys get your windows 10 licence? From ebay, legit, or just use an activator?

Samuel Kelly
Samuel Kelly

Stock voltage for Ryzen is 1.4v bro
[citation needed]

Ryder Rivera
Ryder Rivera

i got one for free with a $3 ebay coupon

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Chase Cox
Chase Cox

everything but the current top of the series comes with its own cooler
top of the line still cheaper overall with an aio than intel due to cheap mobos and backwards compatibility
safer than intel
faster overall than intel before and after security patches
shit u rite, amdrones btfo

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Christopher Howard
Christopher Howard

Generally true, though you should just look at benchmarks, from different sources, of the game you want to play

Robert Green
Robert Green

Is B450 Tomahawk still the go-to motherboard or should one consider a 500-series chipset?

Leo Young
Leo Young

Looking for a second monitor for my RX 580 which should I go for another 1080p 60/hz or a 144hz one?

Alexander Campbell
Alexander Campbell

x570
double the passive power draw
hotter
VREEEEEEEE chipset fan

What is even the point in x570 for non-professionals. Either wait for B550 or go B450.

Dominic Peterson
Dominic Peterson

1600 versus 3600 fan.
Looks like they cheaped out. 3600X seems like a better deal because you're going to buy a new cooler anyway.

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Lucas Bell
Lucas Bell

How does DDR 5 will compare to DDR4
for gayming purposes

Anthony Parker
Anthony Parker

Just started upgrading my old rig, 970 -> 5700 xt,
do you guys have any cpu, motherboard recommendations? Currently have an fx-8350 with a shitty asus motherboard

Owen Brown
Owen Brown

I have the following configuration:

AMD Ryzen 5 1600
ASRock AB350 Pro4
Patriot Viper Elite Series 2x8GB DDR4
MSI GeForce GTX 1060 Gaming X 3GB GDDR5

One of the RAM sticks died recently and I want to replace both of them. What RAM should I get?

Also, would it make sense to replace motherboard with one that has a newer chipset?

William Butler
William Butler

I like how jewish amd is getting in quater of the time it took intel to get this jewish.

Daniel Perez
Daniel Perez

What is an air duster and what you mean by breathing

Yeah not worth it considering my gpu is free

Just leave the offset on 0v

Citation=AMD

Jeremiah Jenkins
Jeremiah Jenkins

Same as ddr3 compare to ddr4, it doesn't matter for gaymes

Logan Martinez
Logan Martinez

Well the CPU is still ridiculous value. I'd rather they not shipped it with a cooler at all, though.

Grayson Bailey
Grayson Bailey

And it still works? As in not black listed

Tyler Hernandez
Tyler Hernandez

Im conflicted on what gpu to buy

Im currently using a 2600x with my 570 4gb

I dont really care for 4k but I do own a 144hz monitor and 1080p is good enough for me.

On one hand the 1660ti seems like it would be good enough for me even though it wouldnt hit the full 144 but the 6gb vram is a turnoff and on the other hand the new 5700 seems appealing but thats quite a bit more money so not sure if its worth it.

What do?

Jaxon Jenkins
Jaxon Jenkins

still working

Charles Butler
Charles Butler

Good shit. I'll go for it when my CPU finally arrives.

Chase Martin
Chase Martin

If I drop a hard drive and brick it (but it has no physical defects), will I be able to do warrenty without them noticing I dropped it?

Blake Kelly
Blake Kelly

lmao who the fuck gave Tech Deals a dakimakura?

Ayden Carter
Ayden Carter

drops hundreds if not thousands of dollars on a new computer
doesnt get a aftermarket cooler

unless the cpu comes with a push-pull capable air cooler or an aio im replacing it
because why not, im spending the money on a high end machine
why use the boring flat stock cooler
y'all calling us jews but your the one penny pinching a critical part

Joshua Jones
Joshua Jones

pcpartpicker.com/list/n63RZR

Is it worth it to get the 2600x instead of the 2600?

Opinions? Looking to mostly use for games, particularly racing games

Jason Brooks
Jason Brooks

ahhhhhh I See
intel gave you so much value its just skimping out on everything else, you got no right to complain

Blake Nelson
Blake Nelson

Get an air can or something to blow it away retard, don't blow on it with your breath and saliva.

Grayson Adams
Grayson Adams

ai cooler

dumbass idiot dumb dumb

Ian Perez
Ian Perez

newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232752
is this RAM fine for ryzen 3700x and a x570 motherboard? It's heavily discounted where I live and cheaper than e.g. balisticx with the same specs

Aiden Bennett
Aiden Bennett

y'all calling us jews but your the one penny pinching a critical part
Oh penny pinching you say, lets look at AMD do that youtube.com/watch?v=Ud8Bco0dk6Q
NOOO THAT DOESNT COUNT!

Logan Powell
Logan Powell

youtu.be/EZ3kJ4oCKqo?t=1471

Owen Taylor
Owen Taylor

welcome to duopoly
it's either a blue dildo or a red dildo you get up your ass nowadays

Tyler Parker
Tyler Parker

Does the 3600 need a replacement cooler?

Logan Wright
Logan Wright

Understand that the "performance per dollar" figure is the crux of alot of AMD cpu reviews and fuckers are trying to poke holes in it in the most retarded way imaginable by factoring in shit like free gaymes and small CPU coolers.

Luis Phillips
Luis Phillips

if OC yes
if stock nah

Samuel Adams
Samuel Adams

So you think its definitely that? Even though power is clearly going through it?

Josiah Young
Josiah Young

im talking about the cpu cooler retard
learn to read

also radeon stock coolers suck its no secret
radeon deserves all the shit they get for the sloppy shit they call oem coolers
dent

Samuel Sullivan
Samuel Sullivan

for that price id get the 2600x

Chase Williams
Chase Williams

If you want to turn on PBO and get the full performance out of it then yes it absolutely needs an aftermarket cooler.

Jason Sullivan
Jason Sullivan

Fuck I gotta sell my 2060 now and pick up a 5700xt

Isaac Butler
Isaac Butler

I only game, but stream quite regularly should I go with a 3700x or 3900x. Money isn't really an issue, I just always want the most bang for my buck. Probably going to pair it with a aorus master or msi ace x570.

Alexander Howard
Alexander Howard

No, it barely OCes for 100mhz anyways

Sebastian Morgan
Sebastian Morgan

i want a evga 2070 super but they've been out of stock since launch

Josiah Lewis
Josiah Lewis

Getting 4.4 boosts out of mine. It's actually the only chip that gets any benefit from the auto oc setting.

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Luis Clark
Luis Clark

I'm getting conflicted messages here. Should I just get the 3600x.

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Levi Nguyen
Levi Nguyen

The verdict is that it's too slow right now and DLSS only makes it look shittier.

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Isaiah Sanders
Isaiah Sanders

New:
jowforums.com/thread/71832390/technology

jowforums.com/thread/71832390/technology

jowforums.com/thread/71832390/technology

Juan Torres
Juan Torres

The fastest that you can get

Evan Murphy
Evan Murphy

So I just did a 3600 build but still need a gpu and ssd, mostly gonna be using it for gaming.

Should I get the Intel 1tb qlc drive for 100€? Thinking of pulling the trigger on a €430 5700xt as well, I'll be playing on a 144hz 1080p monitor.

The 5700xt seems a lot better since it's only 60€ more expensive than a 5700.

I know it's a blower cooler but I don't want to pay 500€ for a gpu.

Owen Lee
Owen Lee

You shouldn't need an aftermarket cooler to run at stock clock

Grayson Turner
Grayson Turner

It's thermal paste it doesn't goes away by just blowing. It don't even wipe well with toilet paper

John Kelly
John Kelly

I have pbo on with a tc14pe on a 3700x and my max temp with p95 is 95degrees lol, wut do? do i need to set an offset voltage? if so, how much?

Jason Smith
Jason Smith

if you can afford it then sure the 3600x is a better chip and comes with a better cooler, you could slap a better cooler on the 3600 but the actual difference in performance when gaming or whatever should be minimal even if you were to get better temps, my opinion but i would only consider another cooler for the 3600 if i wanted a silent build with something like be quiet, scythe or noctua.

Logan Rogers
Logan Rogers

2600 is old, get 3600 or 3600x

Jason Wood
Jason Wood

Are there any brands of PSUs I should avoid using?

Charles Scott
Charles Scott

Offset tanks performance, even -25mV. Better just turn off PBO, it's like 2% gains for 20% more heat.

Lucas Rodriguez
Lucas Rodriguez

Just bought a 3600
How did I do?

Michael Fisher
Michael Fisher

Pretty good.

Camden Gomez
Camden Gomez

shill

Alexander Hughes
Alexander Hughes

I want to play and stream on the same pc.
Probably will go for 1440 monitor but will stream or play some games on 1080.
Should I go for i9, i7, r9 3900x or 3700x?
I want to play mainly good old comfy games like Fable, WoW Classic but I do want to play Cyberpunk once it comes out let's say on medium settings. I'm kind of worried about power/heat of i9 and potentially r9 3900x.

What would Jow Forums recommend?

John Evans
John Evans

2600 and 3600 stock coolers were never good anyways
either shell out extra 50 buck to 2600x or shell it out to better cooler
i'd suggest go for 3600x because it's better binned

Tyler Watson
Tyler Watson

3700x

Ryder Turner
Ryder Turner

depends on GPU

Grayson Lee
Grayson Lee

What would be the benefits?

Ethan Foster
Ethan Foster

Don't use Speccy
Why? I wanted to ask you guys what needs improving with my PC and I planned to post my speccy.

Ryder Watson
Ryder Watson

run userbenchmark and post results page.
Much more useful than an inaccurate speccy post.

Aaron Smith
Aaron Smith

40c idle on stock settings?
I am going to get the 3700x does it have the same problems? I wouldn't know how to manually adjust settings in the bios to fix that, unless the solution is exact same settings he used on his 3900 for every model.

Jonathan Mitchell
Jonathan Mitchell

its not an absolute must to get an aftermarket cooler for any of their cpus excluding the 3900x
they all work just fine with their oem coolers
if amd wanted to im sure they could make a oem that would work for the 3900x but the price would go up and with HEDT everyone uses aftermarket anyway so it would be a utterly pointless price increase
but i would not want to run something that expensive without redundancy or good thermal tolerance
not to mention redundancy is key for any reliable machine
there is and will always be a failure rate for any mass produced good
a push-pull has the redundancy of two fans so if one is defective its not a big deal
aio has far less redundancy and more failure points but has greater tolerance in ambient case temperature along with flexibility in space limited scenarios like mini-itx systems

Christian Rogers
Christian Rogers

Why do you think it's an issue though

Josiah Jackson
Josiah Jackson

Ryzen 3 3200G + RX 570, is it good enough or should i go with 5 2600?? (no, don't recommend me 3600)

Tyler Jenkins
Tyler Jenkins

40c idle is nuts.

Bentley Jones
Bentley Jones

will it be good enough for High end games while streaming?

Jeremiah Nelson
Jeremiah Nelson

you think you do but you don't

Cooper Brown
Cooper Brown

Photoshop doesn't count

Joshua Price
Joshua Price

yes
youtu.be/unyD3Qdh7Kc?t=369

is just the first review that comes to my mind but you can look for more

Parker Hill
Parker Hill

Thank you user, makes sense. Looking at most benchmarks, when it comes to just gaming the difference between 3700 and 3900 is minimal usually 1 - 10 fps while the card consumes less power and probably runs cooler. And even for streaming 3700x has the same amount of cores and threads as i9 but without enormous power consumption and heat... interesting.
I will need to have a look at "streaming" benchmarks if there are any.

Isaiah Moore
Isaiah Moore

Thanks. Honestly I was hoping that I would be told that the CPU is worse than it is. I wanted to have something obvious to upgrade to get my vidya up to 144FPS.

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Jose Long
Jose Long

State of the art for gaming is currently GPU bottlenecked right now, and the extra TDP makes it not worth it to go all out

Asher Sanders
Asher Sanders

Yeah just get a nice SSD.

Julian Miller
Julian Miller

Will that improve anything other than start-up time? Because that's not a massive priority for me.
Apologies for the boomer questions.

Jack Wood
Jack Wood

Overall responsiveness of the system is massively improved as well as load times on pretty much everything.
It is much "snappier" in boomer speak.

Nicholas Green
Nicholas Green

Anons I have about 3.5k to spend in a build. I have in maind to piar whit a 1440p 144hz monitor. For Mostly gaming AAA games and use Adobe package and a little of cinema 4d. Should I go for a 9900kf and 2080ti or a 3900x and ti?

Austin Edwards
Austin Edwards

Cheers mate, I'll consider it for my next purchase. So is the CPU good enough relative to the GPU? My "gaming PC" is literally just a prebuilt family computer with a 1080 jammed in.

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Colton Cox
Colton Cox

Would you rather Intel's approach of the same socket but still not retrocompatible?

Ryder Murphy
Ryder Murphy

the video is clearly biased and the fully paid content creators get BTFO by randoms.
YouTube comments are quickly surpassing Jow Forums* in terms of post quality
consider the format: text only, no images.
we got rid of text boards a while ago afik. it was because we haven't got the attention spans I bet.
I bet Jow Forums* has had bot posts for a while, they're just in regression thanks to the backlash they got.
I claim all the screenshots I posted were freerange and bot-free.
things are heating up in the CPU wars.
does Zen+ have better temps? I might stick with that.

Jace Rodriguez
Jace Rodriguez

It's fine for another year or so at least, at which point you'll need to do a whole cpu+mobo+ram replacement.

Anthony Brooks
Anthony Brooks

Should I buy now or wait for non blower amd 3600?

Owen Ramirez
Owen Ramirez

The 3600 is a CPU.